My school and many others has a CCF (combined cadet force) organisation within its walls and I am a proud member, sporting khaki soldier uniform each Friday apres l'ecole and occasionally going off for a weekend or a week to army bases doing training and shooting. I was wondering if anyone else likes to play Rambo and is part of any youth millitary group such as CCF, Army/RAF/naval cadets or an American/Aussie equivalent or if anyone has any strong opinions about such organisations?
Combined Cadet Force: Anyone a member of a youth millitary group?
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Used to be a Petty Officer 3rd-Class in the NJROTC (Naval Junior Reserve Officer Training Corps).
I was in the army Cadets for maybe two years a while back. It was a lot of fun, but at the same tiem boring. It got good when you started to go up ranks and become more respected. I think I just stopped going one day and have still kept all my uniform and equipment. Is that stealing?
it was the exact same at mine, I remember talking to some kid last year in a lesson who was in it. telling me about how he was going to become Field-Marshal within 25 years then restore the British empire by Nuking every country that didn't yield and how he's going to restore the Monarchy to full power. He was not to pleased when I explained to him how the queen can retain control of the English parliament if she wishes, just chooses not to.John Galt said:
...he later continued in a highly racist rant it was very reminiscent of those film clips of Hitler shouting whole standing at a podium to German troops surrounded by swastikas.
and to answer your question bamforth no I was not. I always thought it was a bit morally curropt to brainwash children to be killing machines,I mean it's fair enough that it's something the kids are interested in and is just a bit of fun, but the ones here in england actually encourage and prepare them for entering to army and it's run by real soldiers/terratorials
I agree with the bit about encouraging kids to join the army. Everywhere you go in a CCF building, there are careers leaflets and flyers telling how "cool" and "hip" it is to join the Royal Guards (the people outside Buckingham Palace).zirnitra said:
But, in all fairness, I have wanted to join the special forces since I was small and being in CCF hasn't changed that. I think the biggest influence on people wanting to join the armed forces is ,unfortunately, video games and to a lesser degree, films. Rambo, Call of Duty 4, Crysis, Halo, Rainbow 6 and Stalker all glamorise warfare and make it seem like you are invincible and bullets will never hit you. but of course when Terry Taliban hits you in the back and breaks your spine, its a different story.
I'm in the RAF cadets at my school, there's only 1 person I know in our entire ccf (about 300 people) who has views like that.
I was a sea cadet with the HMCS Chippewa (based in winnipeg, manitoba) for about a year. I hated it. I quit after they made me capsise (sp?) a sailboat...with me in it.
I have to agree with you to that. although I think it's films that are the greatest culprates they've been glamourising war for coming on a century, but then battle has and will always be glorified in one way or another. the trouble with video games is you only get the glory side. with every other medium that has glorified it whether;film, poem, song or novel they're have always been a counter illustrating the unglamorous horrible side of war, which is far harder to do in a video game since you usually engage in a genocidal rampage, as yahtzee said haze tried it and every reviewer slaughtered the game because of it.bamforth said:
and that neatly brings me back to what my problem with the cadet forces is: they are funded by the ministry of defense and they do give a very one sided view of life in the services because it's main mission is to recruit. I think maybe if once a year all the cadets had to visit a military hospital to and meet some of the patients who have been disfigured in battle that would balance it out more and I think it would just be nice for them to have some visitors.
if I had of joined a cadet force at school it would of been the navy but my school only offered army and RAF anyway.
PS I think you'll find they're called the Grenadier Guards (the ones with bushy helmets) or the Household Cavalry (the ones with the helmet's like the guards of Rohan with the white horsehair coming out the back)
well i was in this one called the Nazi youth but i didnt like the hair cut.
on topic i thnk that all of this talk about the glamorising or war is very one sided you are all forgettig that there are films that do anthing but glamoris it. you watch platoon and then tell me you want to join the army.
note:i wuld write amore detiled agument but my ky bard is fucked
on topic i thnk that all of this talk about the glamorising or war is very one sided you are all forgettig that there are films that do anthing but glamoris it. you watch platoon and then tell me you want to join the army.
note:i wuld write amore detiled agument but my ky bard is fucked
What a bunch of shit. Just because you've got some boyish fantasy of being in the military, charging up some beach and slapping a nazi in the face and belong to some after-school "military program" doesn't mean shit. I'm sick of people in ROTC or these junior junior junior cadet reserve training bullsit walking around in their 4th hand uniforms acting like they know everything about the military and everything the military does. Seriously, stop it. I know you all like to gather together and have a little circle jerk for your egos, talking about all you know and how cool you are, competing in a meaningless rank structure.
Its all a bunch of bullshit, so see it for what it is and don't brag about it.
Its all a bunch of bullshit, so see it for what it is and don't brag about it.
i find your unexpected hate witty and am swayed by your obviously expansive world learnings.Oh-Wiseone said:
Your sarcasm sense is tingling.
On Topic: i'm a bit anti-war and despite the fact that these programs aren't entirely military based it would be a more than a little hypocritical of me to sign up with one hand and give the finger to the army with the other.