Comcast Admits 300GB Data Cap Isn't A Techincal Requirement

Kaymish

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over here it use to be the norm to have data caps then our government got pissed with the big 2 telecos and went the European route and unbundled all the cables ofc first the telcos said "dont unbundle we promise we will do better " hoping the government was bluffing but when they didnt do better and things only got worse the telcos got kicked in the head and now we have like atleast 12 diffrent companies offering all sorts of net plans i was on a 100gb plan but the crowd im with felt it was too expensive keeping my plan around and upgraded to unlimited
 

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Oh America, The land of the screwed and home of the oligopoly. I'm dutch, I don't think i could find a data cap on internet in my area if I tried, because nobody would want it. Fairly sure it's going to take an actual revolution to get rid of all of the nonsense.
 

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So you don't have a choice? I mean here in the UK the data capped options are the cheaper alternatives to unlimited provided you don't go over cap. Most providers give people the option.
 

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jayzz911 said:
Oh America, The land of the screwed and home of the oligopoly. I'm dutch, I don't think i could find a data cap on internet in my area if I tried, because nobody would want it. Fairly sure it's going to take an actual revolution to get rid of all of the nonsense.
this is Comcast Canada

In the US the only option is unlimited
 

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direkiller said:
jayzz911 said:
Oh America, The land of the screwed and home of the oligopoly. I'm dutch, I don't think i could find a data cap on internet in my area if I tried, because nobody would want it. Fairly sure it's going to take an actual revolution to get rid of all of the nonsense.
this is Comcast Canada

In the US the only option is unlimited
After you said this I looked around and I can't find anything to support what you're saying here. I see a lot of Americans complain about the 300gb data cap. The guy they asked and quoted here also works in the Philadelphia. Feel free to show me where you got the idea that this is Comcast Canada from.
 

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jayzz911 said:
direkiller said:
jayzz911 said:
Oh America, The land of the screwed and home of the oligopoly. I'm dutch, I don't think i could find a data cap on internet in my area if I tried, because nobody would want it. Fairly sure it's going to take an actual revolution to get rid of all of the nonsense.
this is Comcast Canada

In the US the only option is unlimited
After you said this I looked around and I can't find anything to support what you're saying here. I see a lot of Americans complain about the 300gb data cap. The guy they asked and quoted here also works in the Philadelphia. Feel free to show me where you got the idea that this is Comcast Canada from.
Comcast did a trial run of data caps in about 7 citys, it did not go over well.
Data caps have not moved outside of those cites(if they are even still there), and Philadelphia was never one of those cities.
Alot of people thought they had data caps when Comcast stops opening peer ports, but that's another matter entirely.
 

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direkiller said:
jayzz911 said:
direkiller said:
jayzz911 said:
Oh America, The land of the screwed and home of the oligopoly. I'm dutch, I don't think i could find a data cap on internet in my area if I tried, because nobody would want it. Fairly sure it's going to take an actual revolution to get rid of all of the nonsense.
this is Comcast Canada

In the US the only option is unlimited
After you said this I looked around and I can't find anything to support what you're saying here. I see a lot of Americans complain about the 300gb data cap. The guy they asked and quoted here also works in the Philadelphia. Feel free to show me where you got the idea that this is Comcast Canada from.
Comcast did a trial run of data caps in about 7 citys, it did not go over well.
Data caps have not moved outside of those cites(if they are even still there), and Philadelphia was never one of those cities.
Alot of people thought they had data caps when Comcast stops opening peer ports, but that's another matter entirely.
Never said it was in Philadelphia just saying the VP quoted here WORKS there and hence is not the VP of Comcast Canada. Next to that i looked up the trials you were talking about. Yes they are 7 American cities. Still don't know why you are on about it being Canada when i still have not found anything about Comcast Canada and data caps. What i did find is an article stating the Comcast has plans to introduce the data caps nation wide within 5 years.
God bless the oligopoly
 

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jayzz911 said:
direkiller said:
jayzz911 said:
direkiller said:
jayzz911 said:
Oh America, The land of the screwed and home of the oligopoly. I'm dutch, I don't think i could find a data cap on internet in my area if I tried, because nobody would want it. Fairly sure it's going to take an actual revolution to get rid of all of the nonsense.
this is Comcast Canada

In the US the only option is unlimited
After you said this I looked around and I can't find anything to support what you're saying here. I see a lot of Americans complain about the 300gb data cap. The guy they asked and quoted here also works in the Philadelphia. Feel free to show me where you got the idea that this is Comcast Canada from.
Comcast did a trial run of data caps in about 7 citys, it did not go over well.
Data caps have not moved outside of those cites(if they are even still there), and Philadelphia was never one of those cities.
Alot of people thought they had data caps when Comcast stops opening peer ports, but that's another matter entirely.
Never said it was in Philadelphia just saying the VP quoted here WORKS there and hence is not the VP of Comcast Canada. Next to that i looked up the trials you were talking about. Yes they are 7 American cities. Still don't know why you are on about it being Canada when i still have not found anything about Comcast Canada and data caps. What i did find is an article stating the Comcast has plans to introduce the data caps nation wide within 5 years.
God bless the oligopoly
because the only option in Canada is data caps, or stupidly high costs
 

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This is also a huge problem for people that work from home. I do not think this was mentioned at all. I work customer service from home and could easily destroy 300gigs while working, gaming and streaming media. My job does not pay me anything additional to cover my electric or internet cost so that extra data fee will come out of my pocket. It's basically a forced pay decrease for me.

On average I think more and more businesses are moving to just at home workers and news like this will only hurt everybody including Comcast themselves when they eventually get the backlash of these decisions.
 

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Kameburger said:
Well Microsoft also had trouble with these laws right? I mean of course that doesn't make anything you've said less true, but man does it say something when the companies that own the means of communication also own the media that reports on it. It's like something out of a ridiculous movie.
Microsoft (and recently, Google) got slapped by the EU courts over its monopoly position. It's unlikely those'll concern themselves with US USP's.
 
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sonicneedslovetoo said:
At one point Comcast was rated below the IRS in customer satisfaction. Let me state that again, the INTERNAL REVENUE SERVICE has higher customer satisfaction rates than Comcast. But they have such a monopoly on their market that they could frankly have a 1GB internet cap, dial up speeds, and address every bill with a personalized insult and it probably wouldn't cut into their bottom line.
How can they have such a monopoly? Is there no choice for the customer? Did they do something right or better once upon a time, then pull a switcharoo?
 
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KingsGambit said:
sonicneedslovetoo said:
At one point Comcast was rated below the IRS in customer satisfaction. Let me state that again, the INTERNAL REVENUE SERVICE has higher customer satisfaction rates than Comcast. But they have such a monopoly on their market that they could frankly have a 1GB internet cap, dial up speeds, and address every bill with a personalized insult and it probably wouldn't cut into their bottom line.
How can they have such a monopoly? Is there no choice for the customer? Did they do something right or better once upon a time, then pull a switcharoo?
Government Sponsored.

That's what that net neutrality thing was about. Cable saw a way of getting more money. It's like "Yeah, I know you pay for water every month. But so does everyone. That puts a strain on my pipe infastructure, so make do with shitty, rusty water with little to no pressure. But hey, I'm a nice guy. Here, you give me 50 extra bucks a month and I'll make sure you get the less shitty water. 75 per month, and you can upgrade to even having hot water!"

And to make sure Cable would get that money, they gave millions to Politicians to lobby against net neutrality. [http://time.com/3741085/net-neutrality-republicans-president/]

Hell, they gave money to politicians meeting to over look Comcast's purposed acquisition of Time Warner [http://www.politico.com/story/2014/03/comcast-cash-spread-wide-on-capitol-hill-104469.html]

There?s little that tends to unite a leading liberal like Dick Durbin and a conservative firebrand like Ted Cruz.
But when the two senators join their colleagues for a hearing this month on Comcast?s $45 billion bid for Time Warner Cable, many of them will have something in common ? they?ve each collected Comcast cash.

The Philadelphia cable giant historically has been a major Beltway player, and it?s sure to strengthen its political offense in order to sell the new, controversial megadeal. Yet even before announcing its plans for Time Warner Cable, Comcast had donated to almost every member of Congress who has a hand in regulating it.
What was the money break down for Comcast's run for more power? Decent question [http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/04/comcast-pac-gave-money-to-every-senator-examining-time-warner-cable-merger/].

But just how many politicians have accepted money from Comcast's political arm? In the case of the Senate Judiciary Committee, which held the first congressional hearing on the Comcast/TWC merger yesterday, the answer is all of them.

Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-NY) led the way with $35,000 from the Comcast federal political action committee (PAC) between 2009 and 2014, Sen. Patrick Leahy (D-VT) received $32,500, and Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-UT) received $30,000. These figures are the combined contributions from Comcast to the senators' campaign and leadership committees. (Schumer has recused himself from the merger hearings because his brother, a lawyer, worked on the deal.)

Out of 18 committee members, 10 Democrats and eight Republicans, 17 got money from Comcast's federal PAC, according to the database at OpenSecrets.org.
There's a list of how Comcast spread it's money around here [http://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/pac2pac.php?cmte=C00248716&cycle=2014].

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KingsGambit said:
sonicneedslovetoo said:
At one point Comcast was rated below the IRS in customer satisfaction. Let me state that again, the INTERNAL REVENUE SERVICE has higher customer satisfaction rates than Comcast. But they have such a monopoly on their market that they could frankly have a 1GB internet cap, dial up speeds, and address every bill with a personalized insult and it probably wouldn't cut into their bottom line.
How can they have such a monopoly? Is there no choice for the customer? Did they do something right or better once upon a time, then pull a switcharoo?
Welcome to America. It's because they own all the infrastructure which can be costly to place. Then the US lets them buy/merge with the only other options. They were never good, they were always ass, just they're the only ass around and you need them.
 

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KingsGambit said:
sonicneedslovetoo said:
At one point Comcast was rated below the IRS in customer satisfaction. Let me state that again, the INTERNAL REVENUE SERVICE has higher customer satisfaction rates than Comcast. But they have such a monopoly on their market that they could frankly have a 1GB internet cap, dial up speeds, and address every bill with a personalized insult and it probably wouldn't cut into their bottom line.
How can they have such a monopoly? Is there no choice for the customer? Did they do something right or better once upon a time, then pull a switcharoo?
I cannot find it right now but they have an agreement with Time Warner Cable(the only other people in the region) not to compete with each other and they admitted to it blatantly in an interview.
 

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KingsGambit said:
sonicneedslovetoo said:
At one point Comcast was rated below the IRS in customer satisfaction. Let me state that again, the INTERNAL REVENUE SERVICE has higher customer satisfaction rates than Comcast. But they have such a monopoly on their market that they could frankly have a 1GB internet cap, dial up speeds, and address every bill with a personalized insult and it probably wouldn't cut into their bottom line.
How can they have such a monopoly? Is there no choice for the customer? Did they do something right or better once upon a time, then pull a switcharoo?
This is a bit of a simplification but in the US the government, in most areas, does not sting or maintain the cable lines, instead they allow a private company to do so and act similar to other utility companies so there is only ever one cable company in any given area. There are other broadband companies but fiber coverage is spotty and some times expensive to hook up and DSL is slow. Also in many areas the main dsl and fiber company is CerturyLink who tend to make Comcast look customer friendly in comparison.
 

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The major telco companies in New Zealand attempted this, the government stepped in and said "Nope."

While our speeds and pricing isn't too hot it's at least unlimited and suitable to most needs.

I can't imagine only having 300 gig a month now. I use about 1/10th of that in a work day and even more on a single weekend.
 

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direkiller said:
jayzz911 said:
direkiller said:
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Oh America, The land of the screwed and home of the oligopoly. I'm dutch, I don't think i could find a data cap on internet in my area if I tried, because nobody would want it. Fairly sure it's going to take an actual revolution to get rid of all of the nonsense.
this is Comcast Canada

In the US the only option is unlimited
After you said this I looked around and I can't find anything to support what you're saying here. I see a lot of Americans complain about the 300gb data cap. The guy they asked and quoted here also works in the Philadelphia. Feel free to show me where you got the idea that this is Comcast Canada from.
Comcast did a trial run of data caps in about 7 citys, it did not go over well.
Data caps have not moved outside of those cites(if they are even still there), and Philadelphia was never one of those cities.
Alot of people thought they had data caps when Comcast stops opening peer ports, but that's another matter entirely.
Never said it was in Philadelphia just saying the VP quoted here WORKS there and hence is not the VP of Comcast Canada. Next to that i looked up the trials you were talking about. Yes they are 7 American cities. Still don't know why you are on about it being Canada when i still have not found anything about Comcast Canada and data caps. What i did find is an article stating the Comcast has plans to introduce the data caps nation wide within 5 years.
God bless the oligopoly
because the only option in Canada is data caps, or stupidly high costs
And 300 gb cap is incredibly high for canada. I'm with videotron. For 150$ per month I have 20 hd TV station, plus base services, landline phone, and 150 gb cap on a 30mps high speed connection.