Common Sci-Fi tropes that annoy you!

[Rowan93]

Artificial gravity.

Having zero-g on spaceships is cooler anyway, but if it's deemed necessary to have gravity, there are two actual real science ways to produce artificial gravity, but instead the writers just pull magic out of their ass and have the gravity work like the spaceship is a ship on the ocean. It's incredibly stupid, 95% of sci-fi outside of books does it, and there is no excuse.

 

[CHUD]

The one comment about not caring anymore is telling - you'd be self-selecting yourself for extinction and leaving the world to those who are able to adapt and thrive, be they those craving for such a society to return or those like yourself who have to swallow a hard pill, but do so hoping that, in time, things will go back to how they once were and our post-apocalyptic society would return , one day.

Possibly. But my answer was related to why we don't see this in FICTION. It IS true that such a misogynistic future holds no interest for me, to the point where I consider oblivion for our specie to preferable - regardless of whatever technical advancements are also made.

However, this ALSO means that I have no interest in fiction that depicts such a future. I would simply not be able to enjoy stories taking place in such a gender-dystopia - unless the story SPECIFICALLY is about how the new feminist resistance fights back, vanquishes the oppressive men, and liberates the women of that society (or some variant).

A world like that (fictional or real) is simply something I have no interest in. And which I do not want to read about (or see movies about, or play games about... etc.) And that sentiment is shared by many, it seems. I imagine the only group of people who would find stories set in such a woman-hostile setting to be enjoyable, are the same kinds of people who truly enjoy the "Gor" novels.

 

[beastro]

The one comment about not caring anymore is telling - you'd be self-selecting yourself for extinction and leaving the world to those who are able to adapt and thrive, be they those craving for such a society to return or those like yourself who have to swallow a hard pill, but do so hoping that, in time, things will go back to how they once were and our post-apocalyptic society would return , one day.

Possibly. But my answer was related to why we don't see this in FICTION. It IS true that such a misogynistic future holds no interest for me, to the point where I consider oblivion for our specie to preferable - regardless of whatever technical advancements are also made.

However, this ALSO means that I have no interest in fiction that depicts such a future. I would simply not be able to enjoy stories taking place in such a gender-dystopia - unless the story SPECIFICALLY is about how the new feminist resistance fights back, vanquishes the oppressive men, and liberates the women of that society (or some variant).

A world like that (fictional or real) is simply something I have no interest in. And which I do not want to read about (or see movies about, or play games about... etc.) And that sentiment is shared by many, it seems. I imagine the only group of people who would find stories set in such a woman-hostile setting to be enjoyable, are the same kinds of people who truly enjoy the "Gor" novels.

Oh I certainly wouldn't read a book centered around that, but to have it be a facet of cultural setting of the books, like Dune's highly stratified, neo-feudal society.

Tied into the subject this thread has drifted into, I seek to read fiction that is very grounded and realistic and wlel, that's left me reading most non-fiction these days as I can't stand even slight biases giving certain characters and groups plot armour. Gor being one of the worst of the bunch: It's nothing but wish fulfillment. Really fucked up wish fulfillment, but wish fulfillment nonetheless.

I loath wish fulfillment works thanks to Roddenberry.

 

[beastro]

With that said, I tend to lean in his direction, that society would become very reactionary, conservative and cautious very very quickly in the event of social breakdown.

Not sure...even if it did, what form it's conservatism would take.

You also get socialism and the like spring up in times of crisis as well, though.

Using conservative in it's modern, political sense wouldn't apply, nor would any modern political angle.

Strictly speaking, yes, socialism and communism would come in with a vengeance, but it would be because everyone would be bombed back to the days of small bands working via Village Democracy where the tyranny of the tribal good comes before all else.

It would be less Noble Savage, Socialism/Communism triumphing and more the Somalian social model suddenly becoming the global standard: Technology driven back to the 1500s, politics and governance set back 6000.