concern for pixars next movie
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For a second there, I thought we were talking about Wreck-It Ralph, because I think a movie about video games based on a Toy Story-esque mini-verse with a lot of iconic characters would be awesome.
Anyway, I'm really interested in Brave, as it is the first Disney film to take on a Scottish setting and it seems like a fun film. I hope that it turns out well.
Anyway, I'm really interested in Brave, as it is the first Disney film to take on a Scottish setting and it seems like a fun film. I hope that it turns out well.
Every single Pixar movie I see all the previews and such and I say to myself "Yeah, I don't think this one is for me." And every time I'm dead wrong.
I doubt this one will be any different.
I doubt this one will be any different.
I'm riding on the "it's Pixar, and they only f***** up when they made a cash-in, so it has to be good" train that's been making the rounds. That's the thing though, for once, I'll probably check its tomatometer before considering a trip to the theater, which never happens when I'm talking about a Pixar movie. :/
I'm just hoping that they aren't losing their magic like Disney did in the late 90's-present.
I'm just hoping that they aren't losing their magic like Disney did in the late 90's-present.
Jokes?ankensam said:
They sound more like concepts or questions, than attempts at humour.
A fairy tale that will flip the traditional views of those stories that portray women as helpless? I'm down for that.
Pixar for me have never been about gags or punchlines. That is the draw for little kids and there is still humour there for adults. But Toy Story 3, Up and Wall-E are more than punch line films.
I figure Brave will fall under the same category. It's not going to be a purely humorous adventure like Monsters Inc. or some quirky twist on popular media like The Indcredibles... but it looks heartfelt as is typical for Pixar films.
The twist here, in this film, is that it follows a well worn trope in fairytales (the impromptu hero) but giving the role to a wiry young girl rather then the confidence lacking boy. Disney would have just made her another princess for the protagonist/male hero to hound after and progress the plot.
Also, Billy Connelly is in it.
I figure Brave will fall under the same category. It's not going to be a purely humorous adventure like Monsters Inc. or some quirky twist on popular media like The Indcredibles... but it looks heartfelt as is typical for Pixar films.
The twist here, in this film, is that it follows a well worn trope in fairytales (the impromptu hero) but giving the role to a wiry young girl rather then the confidence lacking boy. Disney would have just made her another princess for the protagonist/male hero to hound after and progress the plot.
Also, Billy Connelly is in it.
Cause its simplistic premise, a girl who wants to be unladylike and is good at something considered manly*gasp*Hazy992 said:
Mulan was the same but it was better about it and gave a nod to asian culture.
I thought Up was bad, cars 2 mediocre, toy story 3 okay but unneeded.
"Up" didn't have a joke tying it together. Unless it was "What if an old man decided to travel to South America by tying a shit-ton of balloons to his house, and accidentally abducted a boy scout, and together they had a crazy adventure with a talking dog?"
Which is kind of a stretch. The point is, not all Pixar movies follow your format.
Which is kind of a stretch. The point is, not all Pixar movies follow your format.
This is the first Pixar movie I feel really unenthusiastic about after the underwhelming trailer (especially the bit where the maid runs into a wall, which I assume was meant to be funny but was just kind of met with awkward silence when I saw it in the cinema). It just seems from the trailer like the creative wit that Pixar usually implements into their films is being turned into a generic fairy tale with a pretty standard heroine that is being set up as this fiery, breath of fresh air look-I'm-a-strong-female-character-too kind of schtick. Not that I have a problem with that, it's good to have that sort of role model for little girls, but I just think that writers could use other methods to define strong female characters other than just crow-barring them into a traditional masculine role and sitting back.
But to be totally fair, I'm just going on the trailer here, so I'll reserve judgement until I've actually seen the thing.
But to be totally fair, I'm just going on the trailer here, so I'll reserve judgement until I've actually seen the thing.
It's missing that huge element of fantasy. It seems bland because it looks so realistic. "Princes shoots arrows, climbs" doesn't have the same slightly ridiculous premise that Pixar is so good at making, like "Toys come to life, have adventure" or "Robot leads lonely existence on desolate ruins, then discovers love" or "Man ties balloons to house, abducts boy scout to South America, audience drowns in tears." You get the idea.
Or maybe it's because this is the first Pixar film in which the main character is a female, and all of us are subconsciously misogynistic.
Or maybe it's because this is the first Pixar film in which the main character is a female, and all of us are subconsciously misogynistic.
Ironically I feel like it's Pixar's version of How to Train Your Dragon, though without dragons.
It's not "hype up and see" like their other movies but it still does look good IMO.
It's not "hype up and see" like their other movies but it still does look good IMO.
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They're all the same nowadays. Lowest common denominator and such.geK0 said:
You want sad? Try Jacob's Ladder or Flowers for Algernon. Beautiful and tragic <3ravenshrike said:
there's no way to say this without sounding like an ass...buutankensam said:
this has to be one of the stupidest things I've ever read, I mean really? thats your concern about this thing? not..say a disappointing trailer or somthing concerning said by the makers?
ok, so maybe its something of a cliche premise...but seriously, this is PIXAR we are talking about...hell even dream works have been stepping up their game in recent years
I'm looking forward to Brave, I don't see why everyone else has misgivings...ok ok I havnt seen any trailers, but still, I trust PIXAR but also accept that you cant put out somthign with a score of 100%...100% of the time, not saying this moviw will be bad but theases people are good filmakers..not filmaking gods
I think cars 2 was a case of "fuck it, lets just make this thing" and thats not a bad thing, as for the monsters prequel...monsters inc is my favorite PIXAR movie and I agreeRegnes said:
why is that a bad thing? why do people make assumptions based on entirely subjective things like choice of settings and themes?SecretNegative said:
Comedies? In the Greek play sense, of having a good ending for most protagonists, maybe. Did you not notice the most heart-wrenching eight minutes in cinematic history at the beginning of Up, followed by having to accept the loss of a loved one, and move on for the future, rather than cling to the past, an extremely hard lesson to stomach?Kendarik said:
All the abandonment and seemingly-hopeless struggles of the toys in Toy Story, of having to face your own mortality, to discover that you might have a very limited use to only a few specific people, and beyond that, you might as well be worthless, but that as long as you have others you love, and love you, that even death might be bearable?
Sure, the movies were cute, and yes, they had happy endings, but there are some hard lessons in there. Lessons usually not found in a comedy setting, and while there are always jokes here and there, to try and balance, what they show is often far from comedy.
On the topic of Brave, however, I'm excited. A shift from boy's stories to a female protagonist should provide a different tale than most of what we've seen. I await to see how it all plays out.