Conflict between Palestine and Israel escalates

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But what else are you supposed to do when diretly attacked anyway ?

It is not like "Not fighting Israel" keeps you safe. Or your citizens. You get bombed either way.
There is no fighting Israel, this isn't Russia we are talking about. This is a Western-trained, and highly motivated military. They are also using World War II tactics with modern-day precision. This is why Mexico doesn't have a military that sports modern MBTs, fighter jets, and a good navy. If the US wanted to invade Mexico, it could do nothing, and if someone were to invade Mexico to get to the US, likely the US would respond.

I doubt even Turkey, and Egypt could counter Israel, given Turkey doesn't have the F-35 and a layered air defense, and Egypt lacks F-16s with long-range missiles like AMRAAM, plus Egypt is currently spending everything on their new administrative capital. Turkey is in a recession right now.
 

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There is no fighting Israel, this isn't Russia we are talking about. This is a Western-trained, and highly motivated military.
There's no conquering Israel. That's not to say that it can't be fought. The US has been the dominant military power for generations, and has lost wars to people who considered getting the US to get fed up and leave a victory. It's how the US got its independence as well. Admittedly, helps not to share a land border.
 

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There's no conquering Israel. That's not to say that it can't be fought. The US has been the dominant military power for generations, and has lost wars to people who considered getting the US to get fed up and leave a victory. It's how the US got its independence as well. Admittedly, helps not to share a land border.
You fight it by having 20 of your guys die from one of theirs dying, that's not fighting; that's pointless, and they still can bomb you with jets. Indiscriminate bombing by a Western power has little counters as of right now. The jets fly too high. You need something like an S-400 or S-300 long-range air defense to take them down.
 

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I hope he's just bluffing. Because if we get into a war with Iran over this, the Democrats plans to make the Republican Party a non-factor in national politics will be undone.
 

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You fight it by having 20 of your guys die from one of theirs dying, that's not fighting; that's pointless, and they still can bomb you with jets. Indiscriminate bombing by a Western power has little counters as of right now. The jets fly too high. You need something like an S-400 or S-300 long-range air defense to take them down.
The Zionist terror state is quite proficient at murdering non-combatants from a distance (and then calling them combatants). They are unproven when it comes to fighting those who fight back.
 

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You fight it by having 20 of your guys die from one of theirs dying, that's not fighting; that's pointless, and they still can bomb you with jets. Indiscriminate bombing by a Western power has little counters as of right now. The jets fly too high. You need something like an S-400 or S-300 long-range air defense to take them down.
Trading 20 to 1 is better than trading 20 to 0. It is not as if the bombing and killing won't happen if the Lebanese don't fight, they get slaughtered either way.
I doubt even Turkey, and Egypt could counter Israel, given Turkey doesn't have the F-35 and a layered air defense
Turkey is in the NATO, Israel is not. If Israel were to attack Turkey, all NATO members, including the US would be obliged to join the war against Israel.
 
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Trading 20 to 1 is better than trading 20 to 0. It is not as if the bombing and killing won't happen if the Lebanese don't fight, they get slaughtered either way.
Turkey is in the NATO, Israel is not. If Israel were to attack Turkey, all NATO members, including the US would be obliged to join the war against Israel.
Turkey won't be attacked by Israel, Turkey, in my scenario would attack Israel based on their treatment of Muslims in the region.
 

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Turkey is in the NATO, Israel is not. If Israel were to attack Turkey, all NATO members, including the US would be obliged to join the war against Israel.
Now that would test the worth of paper.
 

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Financial sanctions announced for 3 illegal settler outposts and 4 settler organisations operating in the West Bank. Notably not sanctioned were ministers Smotritch and Ben-Gvir, who Cameron had planned to sanction before the election.

Of course, sanctions are of very limited effect when they target individual organisations within a foreign country, rather than the national entity itself. Organisations need only divert finance through a non-sanctioned intermediary, so long as the government will cover their backs-- and with the current government, there's little doubt they will.