hermes said:
Samtemdo8 said:
IF those other two "countries" even exists.
Why wouldn't they?
Because the Party it is just an excuse for the Party to do what they do. Sure, it's not
stated for a fact that the countries are made up but there is no actual firm evidence that they do.
hermes said:
at some point they change the target of the war to an entirely different nation and hope no one notice it.
No, they don't "hope". They absolutely make sure nobody does.
hermes said:
Why would they even bother with it if they could use the same made up enemy?
Because they want the population to believe absolutely anything the Party tells it. Did you seriously not read the book? That was
the entire point of the INGSOC. If there only one word to describe it with, it'd be capital "C" Control - they control the population, their speech, thoughts, the history and (with it) the future. The entirety of Newspeak is introduced to reduce dissident thought. The Party is brainwashing each generation more and more to follow its ideals. They make sure that doublespeak and doublethink are hardly embedded everywhere in society.
By switching enemies in the conflict, they both train the population to accept anything it's told ("We've always been at war with Eastasia") and weed out any dissidents who haven't internalised doublethink (it's one of the reasons they got Winston).
Moreover, the war is used to control other types of resources - society's attention can be directed to it, when convenient, goods can be rationed thus used as a leach to keep everybody in check.
As a matter of fact,
this very thing is discussed IN THE BOOK. Have you seriously missed it? It's Emmanuel Goldstein's book that explained the concepts behind the Party. It's more specifically, chapter 3: War is Peace. You should recognise this as part of the slogan of INGOC: "War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, Ignorance is Strength"
You can see the chapter here [https://ebooks.adelaide.edu.au/o/orwell/george/o79n/chapter2.9.html] because you apparently managed to miss the
16 paragraphs which contain
5000 words of explanation.
The war doesn't really seem to matter. As long as there
is war, the Party would be happy. The enemies in the war don't matter but a war requires an opposing side. So, why wouldn't they make up enemies for that reason?
Especially considering that the Party does everything in its power to manipulate, command, steer and direct the population as it sees fit.
Again, maybe the countries exist, maybe they don't. The fact is
both of these are possibilities.