Court Upholds Ban on Samsung Galaxy Tablet

[ZephrC]

Its nothing to do with likeness of display. It IS the display. Samsung manufactures an array of components for Apple. What this means is Samsung is privy to internal specs, designs, builds, etc. I have dismantled both devices and the resemblance is striking. Citing the same display factories.

This would not typically be the problem as LG does the same thing. However, when there was a market test general consumers could not tell the difference between the two (while off). This is the problem; Apple is banking on brand and model recognition. If they are duplicated then the value of the brand goes down.

This exact same thing happened between Samsung and some TV company in Europe. Samsung barred this company from selling TV's (it only has 3 models, all look the same as Samsung) in the USA. All of these companies do it, and I appreciate it; its a real slippery slope from here to blatant knockoff.

So why do you hate capitalism?

Seriously, if they can't make a superior product, why do you think they deserve to hog all the market share? Patents used to be more difficult to enforce, and back in the day that just meant people learned to recognize the difference between a product and its knock-offs. That's why we have trademarks. To make that process easier.

All this ridiculous IP mongering accomplishes is stifling competition, which is the very lifeblood of capitalism. Our system is not merely not capitalist anymore, it's now actively fighting capitalism. And unfortunately winning.

 

[Bara_no_Hime]

At least there weren't any fart jokes in the reboot.
I'd rank them like so: The Wrath of Khan > The Voyage Home > Reboot > The Undiscovered Country > The Search for Spock > The Final Frontier > The Motion Picture > the rest.

And yeah, I enjoyed the reboot. The science was awful and I had to try really hard not care for it while watching it, and the goddamn lens flares were blinding, but the love for Trek and care put into making this movie was clearly noticeable and that's why I like it.

I generally consider Wrath of Khan, Search for Spock, and The Voyage Home to be one giant Super-Movie - and yes, consider that the best of the movies.

The Undiscovered Country next. Kim Cattrall is fucking awesome. ^^ I might actually consider this the best single movie of the set, but it doesn't stand up to the omnibus that is 2-4.

The Motion Picture, The Final Frontier, and the Reboot all fall in here. Depending on my mood, the order changes. Each have good things, and bad things, but are enjoyable overall.

And then the Next Gen movies. Unlike the above, I don't have any desire to rewatch them. I saw all four in the theater, and have no need to see any of the four again. If I want to see a good Next Gen movie, I just need to put in my Season 7 DVDs and watch "All Good Things" parts 1 and 2 back to back.

 

[draythefingerless]

Its nothing to do with likeness of display. It IS the display. Samsung manufactures an array of components for Apple. What this means is Samsung is privy to internal specs, designs, builds, etc. I have dismantled both devices and the resemblance is striking. Citing the same display factories.

This would not typically be the problem as LG does the same thing. However, when there was a market test general consumers could not tell the difference between the two (while off). This is the problem; Apple is banking on brand and model recognition. If they are duplicated then the value of the brand goes down.

This exact same thing happened between Samsung and some TV company in Europe. Samsung barred this company from selling TV's (it only has 3 models, all look the same as Samsung) in the USA. All of these companies do it, and I appreciate it; its a real slippery slope from here to blatant knockoff.

So why do you hate capitalism?

Seriously, if they can't make a superior product, why do you think they deserve to hog all the market share? Patents used to be more difficult to enforce, and back in the day that just meant people learned to recognize the difference between a product and its knock-offs. That's why we have trademarks. To make that process easier.

All this ridiculous IP mongering accomplishes is stifling competition, which is the very lifeblood of capitalism. Our system is not merely not capitalist anymore, it's now actively fighting capitalism. And unfortunately winning.

then how come europe, wich is majorly socialist, has better copyright laws than the US? i dont think this is a problem as big as what type of economic system we use buddy. i think its just a problem of corruption and law bending. thats it. :>

as for Apple, Microsoft learned their lesson a while ago, Apple will learn theirs...you dont just eat all the cake and expect the other people at the party to let you go free of charge...

 

[CronoT]

There was a case a few years ago, against a judge who was eventually found guilty of taking some hundreds and thousands of dollars worth in bribes from a prison over many years. It seems they paid him/her (I forget) to convict as many people as possible and send them to their prison, so they could make more profit (with prisons being private).

Make no mistake about it, the U.S. criminal justice system is fucked beyond belief.

I do not believe you have any idea how America Jurisprudence works.
1. Judges don't convict anyone. Juries do. Judges have only a minimal role in the process of finding guilt. Their role as it pertains to the finding of guilt is limited entirely to approving jury instructions (which are vetted by the counsel of both sides before hand) and sentencing after guilt is determined. By sentencing I mean how long and in what manner a person is punished for. Sentencing is done according to written guidelines and there is not much room for discretion.
2. [citation needed]

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/10/14/us-apple-samsung-lawsuit-idUSTRE79C79C20111014

Turns out I was right. It WAS that stupid Koh *****.

Where's Judge Ito when you need him? I know he's retired, but we're talking Law & Order levels of judicial bias here.

 

[bakan]

There was a case a few years ago, against a judge who was eventually found guilty of taking some hundreds and thousands of dollars worth in bribes from a prison over many years. It seems they paid him/her (I forget) to convict as many people as possible and send them to their prison, so they could make more profit (with prisons being private).

Make no mistake about it, the U.S. criminal justice system is fucked beyond belief.

I do not believe you have any idea how America Jurisprudence works.
1. Judges don't convict anyone. Juries do. Judges have only a minimal role in the process of finding guilt. Their role as it pertains to the finding of guilt is limited entirely to approving jury instructions (which are vetted by the counsel of both sides before hand) and sentencing after guilt is determined. By sentencing I mean how long and in what manner a person is punished for. Sentencing is done according to written guidelines and there is not much room for discretion.
2. [citation needed]

Here is a source of a judge sending teenagers into jail and he received money for it:

http://www.democracynow.org/2011/2/22/judge_convicted_in_pennsylvania_kids_for

 

[90sgamer]

Here is a source of a judge sending teenagers into jail and he received money for it:
http://www.democracynow.org/2011/2/22/judge_convicted_in_pennsylvania_kids_for

Now you are changing the facts and your claim. Juvenile detention =/= prison as you stated in your OP. It doesn't equal jail either as you state above. Also, juvenile proceedings are a bit different from normal criminal matters. For starters they aren't treated as criminal matters to begin with. It's more like an informal civil court (think small claims). In such cases then, yes, the judge does make a determination of liability/guilt.

So your new argument is: the U.S. juvenile delinquency system is fucked beyond belief. You have brought no evidence against the US justice system as a whole. You know, the system where judges cannot convict people.