Critical Miss: Dragon Age: Destiny

[TheAmazingHobo]

Am I mistaken in believing that her cameo in DAII is a rather small one, that does not really specify how she feels about the warden ?
If that is the case, then this entire thing is the most whiny, idiotic complaint I have ever heard.
If it is not adressed, why do people even assume it is a retcon ?
There are a f*ckton of possible explanations why that french bi... person could be walking around after having her head chopped off.

Just use your imagination to come up with an explanation why she is alive, until it gets adressed explicitly in DA3. Shouldn´t be that hard, seeing how you obviously have already managed to use your imagination to fool yourself into thinking that DA2 is a game worth playing.

 

[SageRuffin]

For fuck's sake, can't we all give it a rest already? The game isn't great, but it's not terrible. Let's end this already and move on with our lives.

And to wit, Leliana was one of my favorite characters, so seeing her with her head separated from her shoulders was a little unnerving.

 

[leviadragon99]

Huh... and here I didn't realise that if I had killed her she'd come back... not that I'd ever want to off her anyway, Leilianna was my favorite ally in the first game...

 

[Vitor Goncalves]

OMG, warn of spoilers pls, I am still playing DA:O, and you are telling me I amn gonna kill Leliana? *Not bringing out leliana of party camp ever again*

EDIT: Damn, I killed Zevran already! Not my fault. Alistair, Morrigan and Wynne were looking pissed off when I was considering the idea of giving him a chance.

 

[Zannah]

Am I mistaken in believing that her cameo in DAII is a rather small one, that does not really specify how she feels about the warden ?
If that is the case, then this entire thing is the most whiny, idiotic complaint I have ever heard.

Pretty much this.
But hey, instead of addressing the flaws this otherwise outstanding game has, let's all hate on it, because a decision that half a percent of the people made, wasn't specifically catered for.

Ot to quote the official bioware forums -
RUINED FOREVER.

 

[Celtic_Kerr]

'Tis but a scratch! XD

No it's not, your whole arms cut off ya daft looney

 

[z3rostr1fe]

Gahh!!! Spoiler!!! :<

Now I know that Leilana will try and hinder me from gaining those things! And I need those ashes! Now I regret trying to finish up America Orzammar first!

 

[TilMorrow]

I had a theory about how she was still alive in DA2 even if people killed her. But It didn't make much sense so I forgot it.... But yeah Great Comic!

 

[lucky_sharm]

Gahh!!! Spoiler!!! :<

Now I know that Leilana will try and hinder me from gaining those things! And I need those ashes! Now I regret trying to finish up America Orzammar first!

I didn't know America had a caste system and a corrupt political system full of bribing and assassinations.

 

[BehattedWanderer]

Oooh...I might have to do that. A DA:O/awakenings playthrough that kills off a ton of people, just to watch them retconned into existence again. I know Nathaniel at least stays dead. This could be fun...

 

[z3rostr1fe]

Gahh!!! Spoiler!!! :<

Now I know that Leilana will try and hinder me from gaining those things! And I need those ashes! Now I regret trying to finish up America Orzammar first!

I didn't know America had a caste system and a corrupt political system full of bribing and assassinations.

Well... I was actually referring to the Voice Actors for Dwarves(Surface people are more... English...). But now you have mentioned it... Yea! That too!

 

[Desert Tiger]

Speaking from experience, you'll actually see none at all - as someone else who played Origins (and the Awakening expansion) "the good way", I can attest that none of my decisions were ever contradicted by events in the sequel.

Yeah, I figured you'd only really run into retcon issues if you played the game like your name was Lobo. Sorry, Bioware, drowning kittens didn't interest me.

Hey, it's her own fault for being a moron.

"But if the ashes exist, people will pilgrimage to it like all the time. Which means I'd have to waste time trying to slay that fucking dragon rather than getting on with, I dunno, saving the world? Won't this also make the chantry the next Tevinter Imperium and have the ability to control the world, only allowing the people they favour access to the ashes? What if an absolute evil bastard steals it and uses it to live forever, lording over the land?"

"Don't care lol. If you do this you'll have to kill me."

"FINE JEEZ."

This conversation happened with both Wynne AND Leliana. It's not "Lobo" style, it's morally gray. As in, "gray warden", as in what the whole premise of the story was (Duncan killing Jory and nobody batting an eyelash, anyone?).

As far as drowning kittens is concerned, I can't say I did much of that either. Zevran tried to backstab me, so I killed him (there was no option not to). So there we have at least two (not sure about Wynne) major events that have been completely poofed over, never to be heard about again. What happens if your DA1 character DOES make an appearance in DA3 or any DLC?

"Oh hey Leliana, you're looking great considering I crushed you to death with a hammer for being a stupid *****."

"How's it shaking, Zevran? Man, the last time I saw you... hey, hang on, didn't Morrigan burn you to death for being a backstabbing asshole? Oooh, are those new tattoos, by the way?"

 

[Desert Tiger]

Gahh!!! Spoiler!!! :<

Now I know that Leilana will try and hinder me from gaining those things! And I need those ashes! Now I regret trying to finish up America Orzammar first!

Trick is, don't take her with you when you get the Ashes. Leave her at camp, then when you come back she'll eventually confront you. Lie to the stupid cow and she'll believe you.

Status quo regained.

 

[LGC Pominator]

Gahh!!! Spoiler!!! :<

Now I know that Leilana will try and hinder me from gaining those things! And I need those ashes! Now I regret trying to finish up America Orzammar first!

I didn't know America had a caste system and a corrupt political system full of bribing and assassinations.

Well... I was actually referring to the Voice Actors for Dwarves(Surface people are more... English...). But now you have mentioned it... Yea! That too!

Totally QFT!
(as far as the bribing and tiered value of human life go!)

anyway, interesting comic, I am still wondering whether DA2 is even going to be worth buying...

 

[Azarhac]

At first I was like what is this, then I finally remembered the ashes and that you might have to kill characters there (like Wynne and apparently Leliana, but seriously who the fuck would do that)

This does remind me of one my play-through's in DA origins where I never even picked up Leliana or Sten, killed Zevran, managed to totally piss off Wynne and have her leave, same deal with Alistair while sparing Logain, and for total "screw-up" factor having Morrigan leave as well.

The joys of killing the Arch-Demon with myself (a gimped mage because I was fucking stupid in picking skills) Logain and Oghren because that was pretty much what I was down to at that point. (I even forgot to the get the dog, not on purpose though)

DA 2, while having a few very nice improvements in companions missed the all-mighty camp area + the fact you can only lose Isabela instead of possibly losing/never receiving almost all of your companions.

In fact after playing through DA:Kirkwall Edition, I was rather convinced the game was only a mini-game (still actually took me longer to play through with Hard than DA:O ever did on Nightmare) to give you the setup for the Templars vs Mages war.

 

[z3rostr1fe]

Trick is, don't take her with you when you get the Ashes. Leave her at camp, then when you come back she'll eventually confront you. Lie to the stupid cow and she'll believe you.

Status quo regained.

But... I need a healer!
I guess i'll be off packing up some pots then instead...

 

[Desert Tiger]

Trick is, don't take her with you when you get the Ashes. Leave her at camp, then when you come back she'll eventually confront you. Lie to the stupid cow and she'll believe you.

Status quo regained.

But... I need a healer!
I guess i'll be off packing up some pots then instead...

What, Leliana is your healer?

Do you mean Wynne?

 

[Worr Monger]

Hmm.. I didn't run into anything like this. But then, I didn't kill Leliana or Zevran.... only Wynne.

I did find the save transfer option a little odd. They supposedly summarize the major choices you made before you start the game... but there doesn't seem to be any consequence to killing Connor... boning Morrigan... or some other options that I can't remember.

It's almost like they forgot what choices in DA1 would actually affect some of the outcomes in DA2..