Critical Security Update for All Apple Devices

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Whatever, just wash your hands.
Apple was never impervious to stuff like that or viruses etc etc. They were just such a small part of the market that no one really bothered making things for them. At least, that was the common wisdom, since they also did that "apple doesn't get viruses" ad campaign. Once users started installing 3rd party anti-virus they found that they indeed had viruses and other malware, usually more then windows since they thought they didn't need protection.
 

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Apple was never impervious to stuff like that or viruses etc etc. They were just such a small part of the market that no one really bothered making things for them.
"Security through obscurity" is the common term, and it's also a considerable part of what protects Linux. The bigger you get, the more lucrative a target you are, and the more work the bad guys will put into breaking your shit. And there is no code so secure that it can't be broken- if it is made by human hands, it can be unmade by human hands.
 

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"Security through obscurity" is the common term, and it's also a considerable part of what protects Linux. The bigger you get, the more lucrative a target you are, and the more work the bad guys will put into breaking your shit. And there is no code so secure that it can't be broken- if it is made by human hands, it can be unmade by human hands.
It is a kinda crappy way to handle security. I mean it can work, but it will only work for a certain amount of time and your product isn't being tested so you will probably have more security holes. Plus, it trains users to ignore security and training them back can be really hard.
 

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@ everyone above yeah that’s understood. I recall years ago, like when XP was still the most used OS, security firms detailing how easy it would be to exploit Mac/IOS and how superficial their implementations were next to Microsoft’s. I also wonder if something like Linux is also “protected” because it’s most popular with a lot of users with the know-how. Most typical (read: casual and therefore most vulnerable) computer users are now mobile-based and are likely unaware Linux is still even a thing.
 
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Problem with Apple devices?

Seems rather fruity. Sounds like they've got worms. Hope things don't go pear shaped. I can only hope they can root it out, or if not, that the apple falls far from the tree.
 

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@ everyone above yeah that’s understood. I recall years ago, like when XP was still the most used OS, security firms detailing how easy it would be to exploit Mac/IOS and how superficial their implementations were next to Microsoft’s. I also wonder if something like Linux is also “protected” because it’s most popular with a lot of users with the know-how. Most typical (read: casual and therefore most vulnerable) computer users are now mobile-based and are likely unaware Linux is still even a thing.
Android is based off Linux, so I don’t think that last part is true. Also Linux/Unix is vulnerable because while Windows makes up like 98% of end user computing; i.e. people at desks, the former make up a very significant percentage of backend computing that helps run the end user stuff. In fact I think it’s becoming popular to run all your servers on some Unix based OS and just run scalable virtual machines of the servers you actually need across all the distributed hardware so you can assign resources (CPU cores, Ram, storage) as you need it remotely rather than having to actually go to your data centre and install physical equipment (except in cases of dead hardware). I think that’s how Amazon Web Services works.
 
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