Crysis 2 Leak Not As Bad As First Thought

[Beryl77]

This has actually some similarities with the Half-Life 2 leak back then.
It just shows that even pirates aren't always the bad guys that many people believe they are. Sure there are some assholes but there are also people who still respect the developers and will buy the game even if they already played the leaked version.

 

[theriddlen]

It's not "just" 10000 downloads. It's just 10000 downloads. Because 10000 downloads is nothing.

Pretty much what I thought myself. Not all those dowloads might even be a lost sale, too.

Exactly. Some of people i taunted on other forums for downloading leak defended themselves by saying that they've already preordered it, but just want to play it earlier.

 

[Popido]

"We were really high off the feeling that wow, we've got this really awesome game that came together, that we want to play and which will be a lot of fun. Then, getting that kind of news swings your emotions in completely the opposite direction,"

"We're normally very communicative at the office, but people just weren't talking to each other like they normally do - it hit really, really hard."

Thats just sad. The whole office is schizophrenic. Well, atleast Camarillo is. Or he could just be over dramatic to get some PR. Or just fearmongering over piracy like every other producer.

So. Did this PR stunt work? 10 000 is kinda sad number. Including fans that didnt protest against PRing and you have a pretty low enthusiasm from people. Competition is going to be pretty hard this year and summer. They already lost my sale/vote with all this "blaming the PCgamers" strategy.

Nah, Im just mad that they still try to make me belive that there is a boogeyman that comes and goes from studio to studio and leaks everything that it can gets its hands on. Not buying the game thought. Saving my money on other stuff.

 

[Reynaerdinjo]

Crysis 2 Leak Not As Bad As First Thought

This is interesting as today there's a great interview on Eurogamer about The Boy Who Stole Half-Life 2 [http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-02-21-the-boy-who-stole-half-life-2-article].

Thank you for linking to this article. It was a great read, really well written.

 

[Raool]

Why would I want to waste my time with a pre-release copy? I'm not a beta tester...

 

[Lukeydoodly]

...which said that although the leaked game is widely available, its stats show "just" 10,000 completed downloads on public BitTorrent trackers.

I lold.

The download is soooooo slow, that's why.

 

[DoctorObviously]

I really wanted to play it, but Crytek is one of those few developers I still respect, so I didn't download it. They deserve my ?45.

 

[ark123]

I downloaded it. Without a main plot and with access to all levels, it felt mostly like a tech demo. I was happy it ran well, deleted it, and preordered my copy.
The 10000 number is basically meaningless. A lot of people who downloaded are like me, they'd much rather play the real game. A lot of people who downloaded it were just curious and were never going to buy the game in the first place.

This isn't the relevant part of the story though. It's not relevant how many people had access to the leaked version, it's relevant how people had access to the leaked version.

 

[kurokenshi]

I'm glad the gaming community is behind Crytek regarding Crysis 2.

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I do believe Crytek owes said community an apology regarding their first press release about the leak which pretty much painted gamers as a bunch of pirates and blaming them for the game being on torrent sites. Seriously WTF!

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Lets hope they learn to show us a little more respect!

 

[RA92]

Frankly, I'm surprised people didn't rage over the fact that Crytek was pretending the leak was the PC community's fault and that we're getting the demo this late (in March) and pirate it anyway. Yes, I feel entitled to a demo at the same timeline as the console gamers, who're treated like a bunch of princesses. And I want to be treated like a princess as well!

 

[thenumberthirteen]

I think I'm going to download it just to slow down other people's connections and spoil the seed/peer ratio.

I'd hate to work a Crytek when they heard it leaked. Obviously they worked really hard on it and for this to happen sort of spoils things.

 

[Baresark]

Wow, it's disappointing that a)this could make you lose faith in humanity and b)that it could restore any of it either. If you think this is makes something "worth" fighting for, they have professionals that handle that kind of thing. You sound like my room mate, haha. No worries, I'm sparing you the real brunt of what I could say to something like that.

No, no, please go on. I'm intrigued as to where your thought process is going.

Also I never once mentioned that Crysis 2 being leaked made me lose faith in humanity, so you're merely projecting there. The reason it almost restores it is because it often feels like the majority of people are assholes, but for once that wasn't the case considering the staggering number of people who haven't downloaded it. Yes this is just one occurrence out of the countless events that go on constantly all over the world, but this is significant to me.

I am also curious as to these 'professionals' you are referring to. Who are they and what makes them qualified to override my personal choices and opinions with their own?

I was talking about mental health professionals. I was only joking. I just get tired of hearing my room mates "woe is me, humanity sucks balls" attitude. I didn't mean to project on you, and for that I apologize.

But the truth is, most people aren't assholes. And I'm sorry you feel that way. But peoples supposed lack of faith doesn't actually help or change the situation. I was quite frankly surprised by how taken aback everyone seems to be that maybe, there are plenty of good people out there that aren't solely interested in stealing Crytek's hard work. I deal with this attitude all day sometimes from people around me. You suffering because other people suffer doesn't help anybody, and it doesn't change anything. Buddha would want you to learn from your pain, and move on from it.

 

[Atmos Duality]

Ethics in motion. How rare.
My day has become slightly less depressing.

 

[antipunt]

Crysis 2 Leak Not As Bad As First Thought

This is interesting as today there's a great interview on Eurogamer about The Boy Who Stole Half-Life 2 [http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-02-21-the-boy-who-stole-half-life-2-article].

Thank you for linking to this article. It was a great read, really well written.

Neat article. Good read

 

[MGlBlaze]

I was talking about mental health professionals. I was only joking. I just get tired of hearing my room mates "woe is me, humanity sucks balls" attitude. I didn't mean to project on you, and for that I apologize.

But the truth is, most people aren't assholes. And I'm sorry you feel that way. But peoples supposed lack of faith doesn't actually help or change the situation. I was quite frankly surprised by how taken aback everyone seems to be that maybe, there are plenty of good people out there that aren't solely interested in stealing Crytek's hard work. I deal with this attitude all day sometimes from people around me. You suffering because other people suffer doesn't help anybody, and it doesn't change anything. Buddha would want you to learn from your pain, and move on from it.

First, I guess I can accept the joke thing as a misunderstanding, so ok.

I agree that suffering because other people suffer doesn't help; that's why I try and avoid it when I can. Admittedly I often can't help it, which is a character flaw on my part, but in the words Friedrich Neitzsche;
"Rejoicing in our joy, not suffering over our suffering, makes someone a friend."
Which is pretty much why I enjoy seeing thing like this where a substantial amount of people do the right thing, even if 'don't pirate this game' is pretty inconsequential relative to a lot of things.

I don't think I'll ever have any love for humanity as a group, but I try to keep 'people' and 'person' distinct. If I interact with one individual I usually try and keep a cautious neutral opinion of them until I learn more about them one way or the other.

In any case, thank you for elaborating.

 

[shadowform]

I think that, really, this illustrates how to properly handle piracy more than anything else. When this game got leaked, people rallied around Crytek, vowed to purchase the finished game, and did what (admittedly, little) they could to try and stem the piracy. When the PS3 was cracked, people were practically celebrating... so, what was the difference?

The Crysis 2 leak focused on the impact that it had on the developers: the potential for severe damage to the developer, the damage to the people making the game, etc. It brings out a basic sympathy for other people who get put in a bad spot. When the PS3 was cracked, the first response was "No its not" (a lie), "It's cracked but we fixed it" (the fix was broken in short order), lawsuits, threats, and then invading every PS3 owners console, regardless of their stance on the issue. Sony triggered defiance and anger with what they did. Admittedly it might not look good to the investors if you humbly say "Look Hotz - you know a lot about the PS3's security. Help us find a way to reinstate OtherOS without enabling piracy and we'll call it even", but in the long run I think they would have had a much stronger community - and quite possibly much stronger security - if they did.

 

[Nouw]

That is good news! Good to see the good side of the community.

 

[Togusa09]

I still fail to see how concerned PC gamers wanting to check out how bad the damage from having console co-development is the same thing as normal software piracy.

The Beta is rather unstable, has missing audio, etc. I really don't see why anyone would download for reasons other than a love of crytek games.

 

[snagli]

hmmm. when i saw "Crysis 2 Leak Not As Bad As First Thought", i thought they meant that this version of the game wasn't as unfinished as crytek said. it took me three minutes to figure out what they were saying

 

[Namewithheld]

Frankly, I'm surprised people didn't rage over the fact that Crytek was pretending the leak was the PC community's fault and that we're getting the demo this late (in March) and pirate it anyway. Yes, I feel entitled to a demo at the same timeline as the console gamers, who're treated like a bunch of princesses. And I want to be treated like a princess as well!

Maybe this is just me, but if I were writing a novel and someone took the 2nd draft and published it for free without my permission, I'd be kinda pissed. The plot would make no sense, there'd be pointless scenes, and the character's names would change halfway through.

I like to think I'd have a bit of a right to get pissed off at the people who did it, then be happy when my actual fans didn't steal the unedited version of my manuscript.

Now, I don't...actually have any fans, and last time I checked, people weren't leaking anything I've written onto the internet.

But then again, what I write doesn't cost millions of dollars to make, market and publish...