CVG reveiws killzone 2

[sirdanrhodes]

Haha fanboys.

"How can you give a game negative marks for not having co-op!!!!! You can only review that content that's there. It's like someone reviewing mario and then deducting points for it not having machine guns!!!
I just hope your score was based on what you played, and not on what you didn't play"

I think giving negative score for something that aint there but should is logic.

Sorry but those comments are pure gold!

This has given me a idea, I am going to create a still title, and ship it as that. They can't review what's not there.

 

[bue519]

Um... since when is 8.7 a bad score?

Personally I'd give it about an 8.5, mostly due to the shit tastic story, annoying squad AI and lack of variety in the levels.

Whoa Whoa are we talking about the halo series?

 

[ChromeAlchemist]

KZ2 was pretty much built for co-op. Perhaps they shouldn't have deducted points considering it was hardware issues that prevented them from including co-op, but either way it was originally meant to include co-op and perhaps the gameplay reflected that.

I heard that the only reason they didn't make a co-op was time, and that it may come out in a patch later on. But that was through word of mouth, though I'd be really interested to read the source you got that from.

Oh but reading is so last generation my friend, we watch. http://screwattack.com/HardNews/011409

;¬)

 

[ChromeAlchemist]

KZ2 was pretty much built for co-op. Perhaps they shouldn't have deducted points considering it was hardware issues that prevented them from including co-op, but either way it was originally meant to include co-op and perhaps the gameplay reflected that.

I heard that the only reason they didn't make a co-op was time, and that it may come out in a patch later on. But that was through word of mouth, though I'd be really interested to read the source you got that from.

Oh but reading is so last generation my friend, we watch. http://screwattack.com/HardNews/011409

;¬)

And Screwattack know precisely jack shit.

They don't have anything because they want to make something unique and engaging, and didn't have the time.

Name one time when ScrewAttack have made up news.

And so far, Matzy has told me his source was from word of mouth, and mine is right here. I don't usually use them for news reports, but I have noticed that much of the news I have seen there I have seen everywhere else.

If you can prove it's bullshit, then we can go somewhere with this, otherwise it's just your opinion versus their report which have their news sources open for viewing, which leads me to believe they have more credibility than you.

But then we haven't talked much in the past, have we? For all I know you could be a trustworthy source of information...

 

[ChromeAlchemist]

KZ2 was pretty much built for co-op. Perhaps they shouldn't have deducted points considering it was hardware issues that prevented them from including co-op, but either way it was originally meant to include co-op and perhaps the gameplay reflected that.

I heard that the only reason they didn't make a co-op was time, and that it may come out in a patch later on. But that was through word of mouth, though I'd be really interested to read the source you got that from.

Oh but reading is so last generation my friend, we watch. http://screwattack.com/HardNews/011409

;¬)

And Screwattack know precisely jack shit.

They don't have anything because they want to make something unique and engaging, and didn't have the time.

Name one time when ScrewAttack have made up news.

And so far, Matzy has told me his source was from word of mouth, and mine is right here. I don't usually use them for news reports, but I have noticed that much of the news I have seen there I have seen everywhere else.

And my news is direct from Steven ter Heides. He knows more about his own game.

Care to show me a link, or how you came about this information?

By the way it seems the link's source was the director of Guerilla games, why exactly would he lie about something like this?

 

[D_987]

To give it a whole point lower than Halo 3, an utterly bland, unoriginal game, the reviewers seem to be working entirely on personal opinion rather than approaching all the games from the same view, making the score system entirely pointless. The reviewer for Halo 3 blatantly is a Halo fanboy, unable to seperate his love for the game to give a good review. Whereas the reviewer for K2 is comparing it to perfection & not other games on the market. Having a point system which varies reviwer to reviewer is pointless as comparing scores then means nothing.

Spoken like a true fanboy...

 

[ChromeAlchemist]

KZ2 was pretty much built for co-op. Perhaps they shouldn't have deducted points considering it was hardware issues that prevented them from including co-op, but either way it was originally meant to include co-op and perhaps the gameplay reflected that.

I heard that the only reason they didn't make a co-op was time, and that it may come out in a patch later on. But that was through word of mouth, though I'd be really interested to read the source you got that from.

Oh but reading is so last generation my friend, we watch. http://screwattack.com/HardNews/011409

;¬)

And Screwattack know precisely jack shit.

They don't have anything because they want to make something unique and engaging, and didn't have the time.

Name one time when ScrewAttack have made up news.

And so far, Matzy has told me his source was from word of mouth, and mine is right here. I don't usually use them for news reports, but I have noticed that much of the news I have seen there I have seen everywhere else.

And my news is direct from Steven ter Heides. He knows more about his own game.

Care to show me a link, or how you came about this information?

By the way it seems the link's source was the director of Guerilla games, why exactly would he lie about something like this?

IGN sponsored pre-release event. Saturday the 21st of February. Seems versus is.

Link? Can't find it for the life of me...

 

[D_987]

It's only fanboy nonsense when you can show how its wrong/illogical. If you compare the two reviews, it's somewhat worrying that both reviewers are working for the same magazine as one is very critical, whereas the other can't seperate his love for a series and being as objective as possible.
Having played both titles, I think that I can be pretty certain in saying the Killzone 2 does a lot more original things and is a considerably better title (in respect to other games around the release dates of each game).

Its not wrong - its subjective - if you wish to beleive Killzone 2 is the best FPS this gen then beleive that - I'm not stopping you. But claiming reviwers are biased against it because it didn't score a 10 is ridiculous - its a good game, but I disagree with your views.

Its fanboy nonsense when you make comments such as:

The reviewer for Halo 3 blatantly is a Halo fanboy

So because a reviewer does not conform to your ideal review, he is automatically a fanboy...you sound like a literate version of those posting on the x-play forums after their review of Killzone 2.

 

[RAKais]

It's only fanboy nonsense when you can show how its wrong/illogical. If you compare the two reviews, it's somewhat worrying that both reviewers are working for the same magazine as one is very critical, whereas the other can't seperate his love for a series and being as objective as possible.
Having played both titles, I think that I can be pretty certain in saying the Killzone 2 does a lot more original things and is a considerably better title (in respect to other games around the release dates of each game).

Its not wrong - its subjective - if you wish to beleive Killzone 2 is the best FPS this gen then beleive that - I'm not stopping you. But claiming reviwers are biased against it because it didn't score a 10 is ridiculous - its a good game, but I disagree with your views.

Its fanboy nonsense when you make comments such as:

The reviewer for Halo 3 blatantly is a Halo fanboy

So because a reviewer does not conform to your ideal review, he is automatically a fanboy...you sound like a literate version of those posting on the x-play forums after their review of Killzone 2.

I think you deserve a slice of some lovely win pie.

 

[Altorin]

I loved Adam Sessler's Killzone Mailbag episode

It was made to address just this sort of thing.

it was hilarious.

 

[SomeBritishDude]

Killzone 2 has a attracted a quite a strange amount of fanboyism for a game that doesn't that different from Halo or CoD or Half Life or any other shooter for that matter.

The problem is that with so few exclusive and low sales PS3 fanboys seem to being pinning all their on this game to make their console popular. After MGS4 and LittleBigPlanet both took a stab and missed at saving the console I can imagine they're getting a little desperate.

The less major game reviewers (aka the ones haven't sold out and aren't scared of fanboys) have all been saying the same thing "It's not bad but it's not great either"

 

[Jumplion]

Most important thing is that no game should ever get 10/10 or 100/100 because no game is perfect and good review websites/mags never give full marks.

I am so sick of that argument at how "MATHAMATICALLY NO GAME CAN BE PERFECT!#%!#%#!"

(loosely) basing this interpretation of how "NOTHING CAN BE PERFECT", does that mean that even though I got every question right on a test, I get a 95 because I'm not Einstein? What about when I write an essay and I do everything right and exceed expectations, I get an 80 because I'm not as good as Shakespeare since he's "perfect"?

Einstein and Shakespeare are benchmarks for good science/literacy. I can't compare myself to them because they were geniuses, but maybe someday I could gain their level of stature and then be able to be compared to them. Until then, I'm compared to other people in my own level and I get a 100 because what I did was very good.

(I am almost positive that the above analogy was horrible >_>; )

I'm sick of everyone saying that "10/10 = 100% AND NO GAME IS PERFECT THEREFORE NO GAME IS 100%N AND NO GAME SHOULD EVER GET IT!"

So what? You want every really good game to forever get a 99%? That's just stupid.

This is how I've always interpreted 10/10's; It's a really good game.
The standards of that reviewer have been raised in the particular genre.
Unless something comes by that is better than the previous game he gave a 10/10 to, his standards will remain the same and he won't give 10/10s to just an "average" game.

Of course, this is assuming that all 10/10's mean something. As you said in your own post, all of the "official" magazines will toss out 10/10's all the time to some good games.

I'm not saying any game deserves a 10/10. Most websites/magazines give out their 10's in different ways, IGN has only given straight 10/10s to about 14 games or so?

Whatever, I'm just sick of everyone saying that it's "MATHEMATICALLY IMPOSSIBLE FOR PERFECT GAMES!#^!#^" when they're the same people who say "It's just their opinion!"

 

[scotth266]

This is, well, just plain idiotic.
Who cares? The game got a reveiw that was good! Hell, when I see 8/10's and above I think that the game is a must-have.
In the end, it's just a bunch of spamming fools determined to hate anyone who dares to not give their console's latest killer app a 10/10.

 

[JamminOz07]

The funniest thing is that in a couple of weeks, we'll all be discussing the next big game, and Killzone 2 will be gathering dust on our shelves along with all our Wii games, and no-one except these rabid fanboyz will even give Killzone 2 another thought.

 

[TsunamiWombat]

Killzone 2 has a attracted a quite a strange amount of fanboyism for a game that doesn't that different from Halo or CoD or Half Life or any other shooter for that matter.

The problem is that with so few exclusive and low sales PS3 fanboys seem to being pinning all their on this game to make their console popular. After MGS4 and LittleBigPlanet both took a stab and missed at saving the console I can imagine they're getting a little desperate.

The less major game reviewers (aka the ones haven't sold out and aren't scared of fanboys) have all been saying the same thing "It's not bad but it's not great either"

Ok, you personally need to just go the fuck away from this place. I will tolerate discourse well, especially in a subject such as this, and try to engage on an intelligent level to deliver another point of view, but you are simply just being an idiot. Until you know what the hell you are talking about, just go away.

Yeah cause that'll change his impression of you...

 

[Programmed_For_Damage]

My point is Halo 3 did nothing new to the Halo trilogy, let alone the FPS genre, yet was almost universally praised as being a work of art.

Only by Xbox 360 mags, I'm pretty sure I recall the word "disappointing" thrown around a bit.

 

[Inverse Skies]

People need to remember that alot of 10/10 or 100/100 reviews come from official *insert platform company* magazines or bent mainstream websites with lots of sponsorship. So don't trust reviews from say Official Playstation/xbox magazine or websites like gametrailers.com, IGN and others.

You can say that again. I remember a Nintendo magazine here in Aus giving Perfect Dark a score of 101% (ludicrous in anyones mind, how can a game score over 100%?), then later on saying Conkers Bad Fur Day was a better game. Needless to say I lost all respect for them after THAT effort.

 

[SomeBritishDude]

Killzone 2 has a attracted a quite a strange amount of fanboyism for a game that doesn't that different from Halo or CoD or Half Life or any other shooter for that matter.

The problem is that with so few exclusive and low sales PS3 fanboys seem to being pinning all their on this game to make their console popular. After MGS4 and LittleBigPlanet both took a stab and missed at saving the console I can imagine they're getting a little desperate.

The less major game reviewers (aka the ones haven't sold out and aren't scared of fanboys) have all been saying the same thing "It's not bad but it's not great either"

Ok, you personally need to just go the fuck away from this place. I will tolerate discourse well, especially in a subject such as this, and try to engage on an intelligent level to deliver another point of view, but you are simply just being an idiot. Until you know what the hell you are talking about, just go away.

Wow...Ok, cool down a little. I didn't think you where idiot enough to sink to this level. You like the game, thats fine, this is the situation as I see it. I can understand why you'd disagree with me but if do at least try to get your point across. Don't just tell me to fuck off. It's not a great arguement.

 

[Jumplion]

Killzone 2 has a attracted a quite a strange amount of fanboyism for a game that doesn't that different from Halo or CoD or Half Life or any other shooter for that matter.

The problem is that with so few exclusive and low sales PS3 fanboys seem to being pinning all their on this game to make their console popular. After MGS4 and LittleBigPlanet both took a stab and missed at saving the console I can imagine they're getting a little desperate.

The less major game reviewers (aka the ones haven't sold out and aren't scared of fanboys) have all been saying the same thing "It's not bad but it's not great either"

Ok, you personally need to just go the fuck away from this place. I will tolerate discourse well, especially in a subject such as this, and try to engage on an intelligent level to deliver another point of view, but you are simply just being an idiot. Until you know what the hell you are talking about, just go away.

Wow...Ok, cool down a little. I didn't think you where idiot enough to sink to this level. You like the game, thats fine, this is the situation as I see it. I can understand why you'd disagree with me but if do at least try to get your point across. Don't just tell me to fuck off. It's not a great arguement.

Eh, this part;

"The problem is that with so few exclusive and low sales PS3 fanboys seem to being pinning all their on this game to make their console popular. After MGS4 and LittleBigPlanet both took a stab and missed at saving the console I can imagine they're getting a little desperate."

That set him off.

Personally, I completely disagree with you right there, as time and time again people have disproved that statement over and over again.(*coughcoughResistance2Killzone2MGS4LBPUnchartedWarhawkManyPSNtitlesratchet+clanktonameafew[/loud cough]*) And also, personally, I think it was extremely snark of you to moan out "Ohh, PS3 fanboys are soooooooooo desperate that they don't have any games to play so they want a mediocre shooter!"[/exaggerated voice]

BUT, I wouldn't have done what Indigo did. Though i'd probably start to have to since I am the #2 of the fanboys.

Oh, and we flip the 6 around in 2006

 

[EzraPound]

Edge already rated Killzone 2 fairly; 7/10.