Ramzal said:Rights should be either taken away or made more strict when abused by an individual. When someone boycotts someone's funeral, they should be sued for disturbing the peace and harassment, when someone unloads an entire clip into a computer for the sake of being angry they should lose their right to use a firearm due to displaying little to no discipline with the tool.usmarine4160 said:Actually it is a right in America and that's not going to be changed so you're wrong
Though I agree it was wrong to use a .45 like I said in the other thread. A 12 gauge with buckshot would've been about 20% cooler
I'm not wrong since our rights have been violated anyway, as our right to a fair trial when under arrest has been revoked anyway. (Which I do no see any positive outcome from and I do not support.) A gun is not a plaything or a toy. I'm not sure if you a trolling or you are honestly that deluded.
Edit: Besides, the law states that American's have the right to bare arms. Not to discharge them under any circumstance.
Not if he's outside the city limits. He's from North Carolina (same as me) and given where he is it's not that hard to be outside the city limits. Look at the background there's hardly anything around plus it was on the ground not suspended in the air.TorqueConverter said:Is it legal to discharge a firearm in that area? Take the laptop to the range guy and blow holes through it there.
Well, I know that wasn't your main point, but for me it was important to address. Like you said, you can't make a general statement and expect no one to disagree.RedBird said:That wasn't my main point, but, to adress that, It seems slightly worrying your dad had you killing animals from a young age. I don't want to turn this into a personal thing, But good parents don't give their kids guns, point them at a small woodland creature and say 'go nuts.'Apollo45 said:Meh, my dad taught me at a very young age how to use firearms. We go hunting and shooting together quite a bit, and it's one of the primary ways we've bonded over the years. He's an engineer and I'm a writer, he tends to be extremely logical and calm where I'm only just now starting to grow into that side of me. If it weren't for the hunting and shooting, I can imagine there would be quite a bit more tension between me and him.
So, yes, good parenting can involve guns.
well he can sell it as slightly used on ebay (sorry you are the first post with ebay actualy mentioned)Fishyash said:...oh dear.
Shame on the girl to, instead of attempting to maybe try and express this issue over facebook, actually try and talk it out face to face. I think the father should have given her another chance though to talk things out, and... using a gun? Although he didn't exactly do it out of blind rage or something, it's definately not my style... and seems like a waste of a perfectly good laptop and I guess it's misuse of the gun. If it were me, I would probably put it up on ebay, and tell her to buy a new one.
Also... it kinda bugs me that people complain about uncompensated house chores in general. I am only assuming stuff, because who knows, either the father or the daughter is exaggerating how few/many chores she has to do. However, chores always fit the need of the environment. Generally the more space there is to manage, the more chores are needed to be done. The place isn't going to manage itself, and if you have two working parents, you need to help make sure that everything is in order.
If you have to spend over an hour doing chores every day of the week, I would personally reward my son/daughter for it, but as I said, it depends on how much work needs to be done to keep the house under working order.
TL;DR Kids need to stop complaining about chores, and using a gun is unnecessary overkill.
Actually, he didn't lose count, he didn't know the number of bullets he had in the gun.Ramzal said:http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=kl1ujzRidmU
I have already posted about this. So I will just take what I posted and put it here:
I once believed that a gun should be a right, however after seeing how he used his firearm and people's encouragement of his action, I now believe that having a gun should be treated as a privilege instead of a right. I am an American, and I DO NOT agree with this man's methods of use of a firearm, nor raising a child.What is wrong with you people? This man just put 9 rounds into a stationary object because he was angry. Let me repeat myself; This man just unloaded a -gun- into a computer because he was angry. He has every right to punish his daughter, but this shows complete and total lack of control and discipline over himself by using a firearm to teach a lesson.
He lost count in how many bullets fired at that, because of his anger! And people support this? A gun is not a toy, it's a tool. A last resort and used to protect, not destroy. I've seen comments on this saying "An all American dad!" Are you people crazy or just plan stupid? Comments like that is exactly why our country is looked down on as gun tooting/war hungry morons! His entire point goes out the window when he shows how childish (Retaliating to her internet post--it's an internet post for crying out loud) with the use of a gun.
And people say the young are stupid.
Edit: However, chores are fine. Go chores.
I think you may be overreacting a bit here. He didn't appear to be angry, just disappointed. He fired his pistol in a controlled and safe manner. What he did may have been a little extreme but he did say he had punished her multiple times before and warned her each time. You gotta stick to your guns and follow through when you tell your kid what will happen when they disobey you again. I'll say it once more What he did was a little extreme, but kudos to him for following through. If he shot his kid in a fit of rage that would be a different story, but taking it out on the computer your ungrateful kid made you spend all day upgrading? I find that not worth your reaction.Ramzal said:Rights should be either taken away or made more strict when abused by an individual. When someone boycotts someone's funeral, they should be sued for disturbing the peace and harassment, when someone unloads an entire clip into a computer for the sake of being angry they should lose their right to use a firearm due to displaying little to no discipline with the tool.usmarine4160 said:Actually it is a right in America and that's not going to be changed so you're wrong
Though I agree it was wrong to use a .45 like I said in the other thread. A 12 gauge with buckshot would've been about 20% cooler
I'm not wrong since our rights have been violated anyway, as our right to a fair trial when under arrest has been revoked anyway. (Which I do no see any positive outcome from and I do not support.) A gun is not a plaything or a toy. I'm not sure if you a trolling or you are honestly that deluded.
Edit: Besides, the law states that American's have the right to bare arms. Not to discharge them under any circumstance.
Seconded. I don't know if there's a more elegant metaphor for conservative America's relationship with the modern age than a Southern father unloading a gun into a laptop. It's just desperate, reactionary, emotional defiance.Don Savik said:I like how emotional damage is ok nowadays. If he would've taken off his belt and whipped her he would've been the scourge of the internet, but instead, telling the internet that she is a stuck up ***** and humiliating her for everyone to see without her being able to defend herself OVER A MUTHA --CKING FACEBOOK POST is encouraged with much gusto.
This is a generational problem, of old idiot americans not being able to adapt to modern norms. What kind of kid is supposed to do those ridiculous chores? She isn't a goddam farmhand or a maid.
F this country.
That's an awfully biased and uneducated statement. If His dad teaches him how to hunt at a young age then I say great. Teaches one how to live off the land. I hate how so many people separate hunting and say, fishing, into two different camps. At the end of the day, your learning how to kill an animal for food, at least that's the reason why most of my friends hunt. So what makes the distinction between river fishing and deer hunting? A stupid man with a fishing line can hurt themselves almost as badly as a stupid man with a gun.RedBird said:That wasn't my main point, but, to adress that, It seems slightly worrying your dad had you killing animals from a young age. I don't want to turn this into a personal thing, But good parents don't give their kids guns, point them at a small woodland creature and say 'go nuts.'
He may be referring to the those that hunt for sport, wasting a perfectly good animal for no reason than self-gratification.a ginger491 said:That's an awfully biased and uneducated statement. If His dad teaches him how to hunt at a young age then I say great. Teaches one how to live off the land. I hate how so many people separate hunting and say, fishing, into two different camps. At the end of the day, your learning how to kill an animal for food, at least that's the reason why most of my friends hunt. So what makes the distinction between river fishing and deer hunting? A stupid man with a fishing line can hurt themselves almost as badly as a stupid man with a gun.RedBird said:That wasn't my main point, but, to adress that, It seems slightly worrying your dad had you killing animals from a young age. I don't want to turn this into a personal thing, But good parents don't give their kids guns, point them at a small woodland creature and say 'go nuts.'