Dan Brown Novels are...?

Maveroid

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Dan Brown's novels have grown quite popular with the release of the movies and the Da Vinci Code especially (I think); I picked Da Vinci Code up first too before I got into his other novels.

However, I can't really tell if I am enjoying it or not. Angels and Demons , as well as Digital Fortress, are great books... Until they actually focus on the story. I always enjoy the first few chapters that just explain 'how things work' for the most part. You know, that part in Angels and Demons where he just describes the experiments concerning Anti Matter and such?

I was wondering whether there were readers here on the Escapist that actually enjoy the stories told in his books, or if you just read through the educational parts and get bored after that like me. The movies were boring, in my opinion, because they focused on the actual stories (which I can't blame the director for, of course). Maybe I am just not that much into thrillers, but maybe I am not the only one that finds the actual stories boring. I have to admit that I never actually finished one of his novel (always stopped around halfway through) but I keep buying new ones, so maybe I am missing out on the actually interesting part.
 

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I think calling Dan Brown novels "educational" is like calling a Twinkie "nutritious".

I found The DaVinci Code to be a poorly written, overhyped potboiler with a plot that had more holes then Bonnie and Clyde's car after their final shootout and an ending that makes everything that came before it pointless.

I knew that book was going off-the rails when we took time out from a police chase to talk about Robert Langdon's Mickey Mouse watch. Plus, there was Langdon's insane theory that Ariel in The Little Mermaid is a redhead because she represents Mary Magdelene.
 

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I think it is something 'round 5 years since I've read Dan Brown for the first time. I read "The Lost Symbol" back in 2009. Remember that I loved the Da Vinci code to bits, I even considered it as my favourite book back in eighth grade.

Now, I don't really know. All his books are essentially the same, but I found "The Lost Symbol" entertaining. Can't comment on my stance right now but I doubt that I would find his works better than 1984 or Metro 2033 at this point.
 

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When the Da Vinci Code came out there was a big hubbub as to whether or not he plagiarised it from another story.

My opinion? Yes he did.

I enjoyed the Da Vinci Code a whole lot. I then read his other books. The difference in quality is very obvious. Methinks that he's a thief who believes himself to be a writer.
 

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iBagel said:
Dan Brown bash discussons are sooo 2003
I am sorry that I am not in the flow of things. Like I said, I am not an avid reader, especially not when I was just out of elementary school, so I must have missed the Dan Brown hype or rage.

Otaku World Order said:
I think calling Dan Brown novels "educational" is like calling a Twinkie "nutritious".

I found The DaVinci Code to be a poorly written, overhyped potboiler with a plot that had more holes then Bonnie and Clyde's car after their final shootout and an ending that makes everything that came before it pointless.

I knew that book was going off-the rails when we took time out from a police chase to talk about Robert Langdon's Mickey Mouse watch. Plus, there was Langdon's insane theory that Ariel in The Little Mermaid is a redhead because she represents Mary Magdelene.
I guess my taste is not as sophisticated as yours. I thought them to be educational, but I suppose I am not as informed as the general public. I was not so much referring to The DaVinci Code as being very educational, but rather The Lost Symbol and Angels and Demons .
As for the Micky Mouse watch and Ariel, I absolutely agree of course. Those were pretty much the reasons why I always stop around half-way through.

Lordmarkus said:
I think it is something 'round 5 years since I've read Dan Brown for the first time. I read "The Lost Symbol" back in 2009. Remember that I loved the Da Vinci code to bits, I even considered it as my favourite book back in eighth grade.

Now, I don't really know. All his books are essentially the same, but I found "The Lost Symbol" entertaining. Can't comment on my stance right now but I doubt that I would find his works better than 1984 or Metro 2033 at this point.
I would never dare to compare any of his books to 1984! Sadly, I found The Lost Symbol to be the worst out of his Langdon trilogy-thing.
 

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Dan Brown novels are...
fun
non-factual
sometimes exciting
readable in one sitting
not in any way to be taken seriously
not worth anyone getting their pants in a twist about

Frankly i can't see why there are such a big deal, there is less fact and more sensentionalist bull on the History Channel than there is in his books.
 

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I read the lost symbol last summer and im not a huge fan to be honest. one of the best and worst things about dan brown is that he takes little bits of truth and turns them into big conspiracies that he writes so convincingly that you end up believing them. and i know its fiction and thats the point but he writes them like facts rather than straight up fiction, annoyingly this is what makes his books so interesting.
 

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I haven't read any of Dan Brown's books, so I really don't know how to feel about them. I do, however, know how Stephen Fry feels about him (he says it at about 0:25).

 

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iBagel said:
Just out out elementary school and reading Dan Brown books? You need to chill out and read some Artemis Fowl. FYI, Dan Brown is infamous for pseudo-intelligent, nonsensical leaps of the imagination that he presents as fact.
I meant I was just out of elementary school in 2003, so I didn't know about Dan Brown's novels. Well, I knew about them but didn't read them until 2009 to be honest. Sorry for the misunderstanding, my english isn't too good. I thought the was would be enough to make the connection to the last sentence clear.

As for the infamy that I must have missed... I guess I just grew up in the wrong place.
In Germany his books were very well received and nobody openly proclaimed that his writing features pseudy-intelligent, nonsensical leaps of the imagination that he presents as fact. Like I said, I must be too uninformed since I never felt that way and even believed the books to be educational.
 

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Maveroid said:
I would never dare to compare any of his books to 1984! Sadly, I found The Lost Symbol to be the worst out of his Langdon trilogy-thing.
I did never mention comparing "Da Code" with 1984 on intellectual level, only in entertainment value and personal appreciation. I like them both but from entirely different spectrums.
 

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Dan Brown Novels are . . .
Formulaic.

After reading The Da Vinci code and Angels and Demons I was able to pretty accurately predict what was going to happen in Digital Fortress and erm. . . whatever that one with the glacier on the front was called. I kinda lost interest after that.

Also, either I give books more leeway in their stupidity or my tastes matured in between reading the book and the movie (I read the book not long after it came out, as a silly teen), but when I saw the Da Vinci Code movie I just found so many moments really, really daft.

Having said that though I watched Angels and Demons with the intention of mocking it and annoyingly found myself oddly absorbed by the film and actually quite enjoyed it. (though I'm sure the stupidity was still there).
 

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I do, however, know how Stephen Fry feels about him (he says it at about 0:25).
LAWL!! And you mean, he starts saying it at about 0:25...

OT: (topic title)... shit... and I'm inclined to leave it at that...

Still, I've only read Da Vinci Code and it was an easy read but so ugly in its contrivances that I had to stop myself from laughing...

Is someone willing to recommend a (and I say this tentatively) 'better' one?
 

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I quite liked Deception Point, and really enjoyed Digital Fortress, but the others just seem to drag on. Give me a geek-philiac techno-thriller rather than Robert Langdon running around.
 
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Dan Brown books prove that there is nothing the public like more than what the public are told they'll like more.

Every last one of them is a plagiarised, dull story told to shock.

And 7 years later, Meyer did it again.

But it's not like it's a modern thing:



The banned rude bits:

She pulled open his clothing and uncovered his belly, and kissed his navel. Then she laid her cheek on his belly and pressed her arm round his warm, silent loins. They were alone in the flood. "Tell me you want a child, in hope!" she murmured, pressing her face against his belly. "Tell me you do!" "Why!" he said at last: and she felt the curious quiver of changing consciousness and relaxation going through his body. "Why I've thought sometimes if one but tried, here among th' colliers even! They're workin' bad now, an' not earnin' much. If a man could say to 'em: Dunna think o' nowt but th' money. When it comes ter wants, we want but little. Let's not live for money---" She softly rubbed her cheek on his belly, and gathered his balls in her hand. The penis stirred softly, with strange life, but did not rise up. The rain beat bruisingly outside. "Let's live for summat else. Let's not live ter make money, neither for us-selves nor for anybody else. Now we're forced to. We're forced to make a bit for us-selves, an' a fair lot for th' bosses. Let's stop it! Bit by bit, let's stop it. We needn't rant an' rave. Bit by bit, let's drop the whole industrial life an' go back. The least little bit o' money'll do. For everybody, me an' you, bosses an' masters, even th' king. The least little bit o' money'll really do. Just make up your mind to it, an' you've got out o' th' mess." He paused, then went on: "An' I'd tell 'em: Look! Look at Joe! He moves lovely! Look how he moves, alive and aware. He's beautiful! An' look at Jonah! He's clumsy, he's ugly, because he's niver willin' to rouse himself I'd tell 'em: Look! look at yourselves! one shoulder higher than t'other, legs twisted, feet all lumps! What have yer done ter yerselves, wi' the blasted work? Spoilt yerselves. No need to work that much. Take yer clothes off an' look at yourselves. Yer ought ter be alive an' beautiful, an' yer ugly an' half dead. So I'd tell 'em. An' I'd get my men to wear different clothes: appen close red trousers, bright red, an' little short white jackets. Why, if men had red, fine legs, that alone would change them in a month. They'd begin to be men again, to be men! An' the women could dress as they liked. Because if once the men walked with legs close bright scarlet, and buttocks nice and showing scarlet under a little white jacket: then the women 'ud begin to be women. It's because th' men aren't men, that th' women have to be.---An' in time pull down Tevershall and build a few beautiful buildings, that would hold us all. An' clean the country up again. An' not have many children, because the world is overcrowded. "But I wouldn't preach to the men: only strip 'em an' say: Look at yourselves! That's workin' for money!--Hark at yourselves! That's working for money. You've been working for money! Look at Tevershall! It's horrible. That's because it was built while you was working for money. Look at your girls! They don't care about you, you don't care about them. It's because you've spent your time working an' caring for money. You can't talk nor move nor live, you can't properly be with a woman. You're not alive. Look at yourselves!" There fell a complete silence. Connie was half listening, and threading in the hair at the root of his belly a few forget-me-nots that she had gathered on the way to the hut. Outside, the world had gone still, and a little icy. "You've got four kinds of hair," she said to him. "On your chest it's nearly black, and your hair isn't dark on your head: but your moustache is hard and dark red, and your hair here, your love-hair, is like a little brush of bright red-gold mistletoe. It's the loveliest of all!" He looked down and saw the milky bits of forget-me-nots in the hair on his groin. "Ay! That's where to put forget-me-nots, in the man-hair, or the maiden-hair. But don't you care about the future?" She looked up at him. "Oh, I do, terribly!" she said. "Because when I feel the human world is doomed, has doomed itself by its own mingy beastliness, then I feel the Colonies aren't far enough. The moon wouldn't be far enough, because even there you could look back and see the earth, dirty, beastly, unsavoury among all the stars: made foul by men. Then I feel I've swallowed gall, and it's eating my inside out, and nowhere's far enough away to get away. But when I get a turn, I forget it all again. Though it's a shame, what's been done to people these last hundred years: men turned into nothing but labour-insects, and all their manhood taken away, and all their real life. I'd wipe the machines off the face of the earth again, and end the industrial epoch absolutely, like a black mistake. But since I can't, an' nobody can, I'd better hold my peace, an' try an' live my own life: if I've got one to live, which I rather doubt." The thunder had ceased outside, but the rain which had abated, suddenly came striking down, with a last blench of lightning and mutter of departing storm. Connie was uneasy. He had talked so long now, and he was really talking to himself not to her. Despair seemed to come down on him completely, and she was feeling happy, she hated despair. She knew her leaving him, which he had only just realized inside himself had plunged him back into this mood. And she triumphed a little. She opened the door and looked at the straight heavy rain, like a steel curtain, and had a sudden desire to rush out into it, to rush away. She got up, and began swiftly pulling off her stockings, then her dress and underclothing, and he held his breath. Her pointed keen animal breasts tipped and stirred as she moved. She was ivory-coloured in the greenish light. She slipped on her rubber shoes again and ran out with a wild little laugh, holding up her breasts to the heavy rain and spreading her arms, and running blurred in the rain with the eurhythmic dance movements she had learned so long ago in Dresden. It was a strange pallid figure lifting and falling, bending so the rain beat and glistened on the full haunches, swaying up again and coming belly-forward through the rain, then stooping again so that only the full loins and buttocks were offered in a kind of homage towards him, repeating a wild obeisance. He laughed wryly, and threw off his clothes. It was too much. He jumped out, naked and white, with a little shiver, into the hard slanting rain. Flossie sprang before him with a frantic little bark. Connie, her hair all wet and sticking to her head, turned her hot face and saw him. Her blue eyes blazed with excitement as she turned and ran fast, with a strange charging movement, out of the clearing and down the path, the wet boughs whipping her. She ran, and he saw nothing but the round wet head, the wet back leaning forward in flight, the rounded buttocks twinkling: a wonderful cowering female nakedness in flight. She was nearly at the wide riding when he came up and flung his naked arm round her soft, naked-wet middle. She gave a shriek and straightened herself and the heap of her soft, chill flesh came up against his body. He pressed it all up against him, madly, the heap of soft, chilled female flesh that became quickly warm as flame, in contact. The rain streamed on them till they smoked. He gathered her lovely, heavy posteriors one in each hand and pressed them in towards him in a frenzy, quivering motionless in the rain. Then suddenly he tipped her up and fell with her on the path, in the roaring silence of the rain, and short and sharp, he took her, short and sharp and finished, like an animal.
 
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iBagel said:
Just out out elementary school and reading Dan Brown books? You need to chill out and read some Artemis Fowl. FYI, Dan Brown is infamous for pseudo-intelligent, nonsensical leaps of the imagination that he presents as fact.
I am very much in agreement of Artemis Fowl.
 

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I've only read The Da Vinci Code and I'll say this:

Pros - It's a page turner with a decent enough plot.
Cons - Dull characters and it appears to have been written by a child with a crayon.