Decent JRPGS for 360 or PS3

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phar

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As the topic states. I really havent played one since early PS2 days but just been glancing through alot of reviews recently and not many have a decent score at all. Summary from the review is that its been done before and offers nothing new etc..etc..

Question is, will I still enjoy one of the games if I havent played the genre for ages? or should I just get Fallout for a change of pace from the norm games..


Im leaning towards Star Ocean or Lost Oddessey
 

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I heard mostly positive things from star ocean. It's got it's share of problems like iffy voice acting and a slightly cliche'ish plot but who cares, cliches are fun.

Lost Odyssey is apparently LONG so you would get some good play time out of it. i heard that the main story isn't quite as good as the memory segments but thats just from who I've talked to.

If you can tolerate some tech issues you might wanna give Last Remnant a rent as the general opinion of the game is quite polarizing.

Heard Tales of Vesperia wasn't too shabby either.
 

phar

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Just looked at Tales of Vesperia, looks really good and has lots of good feedback.. might get that. But still dont know which one to pick.. might see if the video store has a copy of them and try them out..
 

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There are not many good JRPGS period.

I'd just try some of the old PS2 games, they're pretty good.
Some of the storylines and voiceacting make me want to rip my ears off, but I played Tokobot Plus and it has a neat puzzle aspect.
If nothing else, it'll make your PS3 moderately useful.
 

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Last Remnant is coming out for PS3/PC soon... the 360 version is fine if you save it to your Hard Drive and don't mind slow texture mapping. It's an incredible game and I think people relied too much on the flaws of the hardware as opposed to the actual gameplay. It's hard as hell so if you're used to Final Fantasy games, I'd stay away.

Tales of Vesperia is a typical Tales game. It's not really anything abnormal for the series (translated:Good.) But if you've played them all since Phantasia like I have, it's likely gotten monotonous at this point.

Lost Odyssey didn't grab my attention since I don't like reading novels. (That's why I play video games instead.) Dialog is great and all, but having to read an entire chapter every 10 minutes of gameplay got to me. I'd prefer a Xenosaga format to that... but to each his own.

It's very likely that you missed Wild Arms 5 for the PS2 since even the major fanboys (Again, me) missed it as well. I'm not sure if they hid it on the shelf or what, but it does exist and it is good.

Aside from that, if you want real JRPG's, buy a DS. You'll have more than you can shake a stick at, and most of them are excellent.



You're much better off playing RPG Hybrids (Be it Fable2/Folklore, Fallout 3, or if you have a Wii.... Tales of Symphonia 2 and Super Paper Mario. I know you said PS3/360 but those 2 games are worth buying a Wii for.)
 

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BUY LOST ODYSSEY....NOW!!!!

Its a fantastic game :) Great storyline - a tad clique but it really makes you care for the characters - it has 4 disks and is very long with plenty of back story. It plays like a traditional JRPG with a few new elements. You have to enjoy reading to get the most out of the experience though - as some parts are very text heavy.

It was created by the perceived creator of the Final Fantasy series.



You can't trust Western review sites on JRPG's, read user feedback.
 

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from personal experience I can say lost odyssey is pretty good, the story isn't top notch but it isn't horrible either. It will eat up a lot of time too so that's a plus.

I've also been told good things about Tales of Vesparia and I intend on playing it I just haven't gotten the chance to pick it up.
 

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I liked Lost Odyssey, you better not have anything against reading if you want to experience it to its fullest though. Valkyria Chronicles is awesome but its more like a strategy game than an RPG.
 

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Lost Odyssey was a lot of fun. Classic J-rpg, and the bosses by and large always present a pretty good challenge. Actually that might be one of my favourite aspects, the first boss actually kicked my ass the first couple of times I fought it (big bird thing), and I had to actually pay attention to how I approached it.

Compare this to the fact that the only FF bosses in recent years I've actually had to be awake for were the optional super-toughies in the end-game.
 

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-Seraph- said:
I heard mostly positive things from star ocean. It's got it's share of problems like iffy voice acting and a slightly cliche'ish plot but who cares, cliches are fun.
I care.
 

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Dyskresiac said:
It's an incredible game and I think people relied too much on the flaws of the hardware as opposed to the actual gameplay.
The Last Remnant is pretty far from "incredible". The story is hilariously bad (and the voice acting! Lawd.), the engine the worst implementation of UE3 yet and the battle system has nice ideas, but is far too automated for its own good to be any fun.

Star Ocean, Tales of Vesperia and Lost Odyssey are the probably the best "traditional" JRPGs yet.

Dyskresiac said:
Lost Odyssey didn't grab my attention since I don't like reading novels. (That's why I play video games instead.) Dialog is great and all, but having to read an entire chapter every 10 minutes of gameplay got to me. I'd prefer a Xenosaga format to that... but to each his own.
You don't really have to read the short stories since they have nothing to do with the actual main story. They're just more there to flesh out Kaim (not to mention you can read those stories whenever you like after you've skipped them).
 

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Eternal Sonata is a pretty good JRPG for the PS3 & 360. Great soundtrack, good combat, & the fact that you can consider Chopin a badass in it makes it a very different JRPG.
 

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Eternal Sonata is an intresting game that has some great music and a fun batte system. Pick it up for the PS3 if you can. Tales of Vesperia and Star Ocean The Last hope are both great as well
 

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Ok good to hear guys.. Leaning towars Lost Oddyssey at them moment but if my local shop doesnt have it ill get Valkria Chronicles.

Yeah.. im getting heaps more 360 games beofer a PS3 games.. dear god im turning into a fanboy :(
 

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I don't own a PS3, but I'd say get Valkyria Chronicles, too. I've heard nothing but good things about it, unless you're not into tactical rpg's.
 

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Really only played Eternal Sonata heavily on the 360. Only other JRPG I've played is Eternal Arms for the 360, but only for a short amount of time.
 

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I just got Lost Odyssey for 360 a little wile ago, its not that bad, its turn based wich gets anoying but the story aint half bad, its kinda hard to find a good JRPG for me but i liked this one
 

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Of the three J-RPGs I've played for the 360, I can honestly highly recommend Tales of Vesperia the most. If you're like me and are a bit jaded about anime-styled RPGs, this one was a breath of fresh air. The story was upbeat and engaging; the cast was fairly witty and well-rounded, incorporating some tired cliches but not relying on them every step of the way; combat was intense and exciting for bosses and reasonably engaging for random encounters; voice acting was pretty good overall and really helped to liven up the cast; the music was pretty good though in some locations the soundtrack is a little grating; and it was generally just a "lite anime" RPG that had a good sense of immersion and pacing.

The only downside for me were the Secret Mission objectives. I recall having to repeat Yeager's boss battle several times mainly because the timing for the objective is kind of hard to determine, plus it's a fairly narrow window of opportunity. Also, you have to use Raven to do it and I'm not the best at playing as Raven. :( (Yuri and Rita, though, I rock with)

All in all, it's my favorite Xbox 360 RPG, tied with Mass Effect.
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Lost Odyssey is worth it, too, if you ask me. The game in general felt like it was an old-school engine dropped into a modern-day design. It's turn-based and the party lines up against the line of enemies, typical of ancient RPGs, but I personally didn't mind, I got into the genre on those kinds of games.

The story is pretty interesting, though approached from a very minimalist point of view. The story is relatively simple and uncomplicated (much like said old school games), but somehow it managed to be engaging and even moving at points. Gameplay is fun if you don't mind the trudging pace that turn-based combat can have as well as some really overpowered enemies that appear in some dungeons. The soundtrack is fantastic (probably my favorite of Nobuo Uematsu's work) and the visuals are quite good despite the fact that the text has that annoying quality of only being able to be read by squinting a few inches from the TV that so many games these days seem to have (I don't know if this is because I'm running on a non-HD TV, but if it is, I really wish more developers would take that into consideration).

However, I'll warn that there was one section of the game that almost ruined it for me. There is a part where the party is having a funeral for a secondary character that died tragically. It was a fairly powerful and moving scene, but all the drama drained out of it when a mini-game was introduced during the funeral. Something about having to maneuver a torch to be lit by using the control stick(s). It pretty much shattered the immersion at that point.

Still, it was so much fun to play and a pleasure to watch. If anything, it was too short, only being about 30-40 hours without sidequests. :(
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Finally, I won't say I don't recommend Star Ocean: The Last Hope........I'll just say that one should make a very informed decision before they purchase. You know how I said earlier in my post I'm jaded about "anime RPGs", well this game is part of the reason why...

Honestly, the game does have some good points. Combat is fun and a big improvement over Star Ocean 3; which is good because the meat of the game *is* combat. I've spent something like 2 hours in a dungeon before (or at least it felt like two hours, you lose track of time when battles chain on and on ad nauseum) only to be treated with less than five minutes of plot at the end. It looks good (despite "looking" rather uncomfortably like Phantasy Star Universe in some spots), it sounds good (the soundtrack is probably my favorite part of the game, to be honest), but I just can't applaud the rest of the product.

The game is pretty much a relentless barrage of "anime RPG" cliches and I'm not even exaggerating. It gets so bad that sometimes I feel like I may projectile vomit from how incredibly stupid the characters act and how horribly the plot is constructed. The cast are mostly cardboard cut-outs with thick layers of melodrama and silliness slapped on, doing and saying things that feel forced and unrealistic just to serve the needs of the already dangerously contrived plot. Secondary characters are brought in just to supplement said contrived plot and have no real lasting appeal (considering at least two of them died within ten minutes of meeting them in scenes that were more awkward than dramatic). All in all, I feel nothing for most of the characters and their individual objectives because I really do feel like I've seen it all before and seen it done MUCH better.

This feeling wasn't that bad until they Jumped The Shark; and before the first disc was even over! For those of you who have played it and know about the "Area 51 on the parallel dimension version of Earth" part, you'd know what I'm talking about. That section almost made my brain implode from the complete lack of logic on the part of the party as well as the pathetically weak storytelling involved (compounded by who I consider to be the second most annoying character in the group, Meracle, just under Lymle). It made me want to sue Square-Enix for that hour or so of my life back.

Also, every time Welch appears on screen, it makes me want to disembowel myself; I honestly use her cut scenes as excuses for bathroom breaks by now. Which is annoying because I can tell she's there as a sort of tongue-in-cheek kind of comic relief (she makes fun of anime and several anime cliches/absurdities, as well as jokes about anime's cultural influence on future generations), but tongue-in-cheek works better when the same character isn't embroiled in the subject material that is being made fun of. Kind of like Yahtzee once alluded to in his No More Heroes review, I kind of feel like she's suppose to be annoying on purpose as sort of an ironic statement about the fans; Square-Enix did it back in Star Ocean 3 with the big "4D Space" revelation that I personally interpreted as trolling gamers to some extent, but here I just can't bring myself to care enough to look for the satire.

Now to be fair, I'm only about 20 or so hours in. I'm on Roak, just cured Reimi of her random stone illness, and am about to go look for Sarah. I'm still anticipating the rest of the supposed party to join up and I am hoping that they will bring something interesting to the table. Though it worries me that I've heard about four potential candidates (Myuria, Arumat, Sarah, Crowe?), but there are only two spots left in the roster. If this game were awesome, it'd let me shove Lymle and Meracle out the airlock and let all four of them in the place of those two ankle-biting rugrats (I say that in good faith that ANYONE, no matter how cliche, would be more tolerable to me than those two); but alas, most GameFAQs are not that far in yet and my local GameStop was sold out of the guide. Still, my point is, the game *may* get better; I've played plenty of games with rough spots and characters that I've wanted to punch in the throat, but I still enjoyed the overall experience.
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tl;dr: Tales of Vesperia and Lost Odyssey are must-haves if you're an Xbox 360 owner as far as I'm concerned. However, rent Star Ocean 4, but take it with a grain of salt. If you dare to buy it, just know that it's pretty clear to me that the staff didn't go into this game with a very mature mindset, so neither should you.
 

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XBox 360: Lost Odyssey, Star Ocean: The Last Hope, Tales of Vesperia, possibly Blue Dragon and Enchanted Arms. You can probably find those last two, Blue Dragon and Enchanted Arms, pretty cheap. I picked up a copy of Enchanted Arms for about $15 I think after factoring tax in.

PS3: Valkyria Chronicles, Eternal Sonata (multiplatform but PS3 version has some extras apparently), Cross Edge coming in April (crossover with multiple JRPG series + Darkstalkers)

There's also Operation Darkness and Spectral Force 3 on the 360 if SRPG's interest you. Probably some others I'm missing. Though, as its been mentioned, the PS2 and DS are still the winners in the JRPG department.

I suggest looking up youtube videos and game reviews for any title that catches your interest, best way to decide whether or not its something you want to get.