DICE: Battlefield 3 Looks Better on Consoles Because We're Making it for PC

[TitanAtlas]

PC RULES, CONSOLE DROOLS!!!!

What are you, 9?

Nah i just prefer Computers much more to consoles.... and im appauled due to the fact ive been receiveing messages due to my comment beying some sort of trolling.... i find it moronic and irrealistic someone considers THAT to be some sort of trolling....

For the first time escapist moderators, you have disappointed me...

(excuse me from my grammar errors... you will understand that i am not british or american and thus i cannot speak the english or write it, in perfect manners).

 

[perpetualburn]

Except DICE constantly promoted it as "not just a port." And I don't buy what you say; It seems to be a familiar refrain amongst DICE apologists. If it weren't a Battlefield game, why call it "BATTLEFIELD: Bad company 2"?

I'll wait until BF3 to pass my final judgment, but forgive me for being a skeptic.

 

[The .50 Caliber Cow]

If more people followed that logic every gamer would be satisfied. Except haters. Cause haters are gonna hate.

Mmmhmmm.... I can accept this but many people won't just because they need to rant online.

 

[matt87_50]

good on them

without more people doing this, we will be stuck with the current generation of consoles forever.

something doesn't look old until there is something newer to compare it to...

 

[honeybakedham]

So, if they're doing this right, the development is going as follows:

Top-end PC
High-end PC
Upper mid-range PC
Mid-range PC
Lower mid-range PC
PS3
Xbox 360

One can hope, right?

Your list is incomplete...

Top-end PC
High-end PC
Upper mid-range PC
Mid-range PC
Lower mid-range PC
PS3
Xbox 360
Mac
Dreamcast
PS2
Commodore Amiga
Apple IIe
TRS-80
Timex Sinclair
Osborn 1
and finally The Nintendo Wii

 

[farmerboy219]

can someone please tell me what the song is, its been annoying me for days

 

[EventHorizon]

pause the video at exactly 00:16, the guy's arm doesn't look too impressive. But I expect we won't be seeing much of it in-game eh? Nevermind... I was wrong

 

[2ndblackjedi]

can someone please tell me what the song is, its been annoying me for days

I dunno how to embed youtube vids but here it is

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKTECUF-F1k

It's the chorus of My Life by The Game ft. Lil Wayne covered by a Swedish band named jj.

 

[Mr. Grey]

So... the PC gamers like to complain how making it for consoles ruins it for PC. Lets see if making it for PC ruins it for consoles this time.

Frankly - if there's any justice in the world - it should.

Well, I would have waited and bought this game cheaply in a Steam Sale or something had I not read this. However, if this is true, I'll probably pre-order from a source from which the devs will get the most cash.
Hopefully, this design ideal will start something of a trend!

If you want it to start a new trend, you'll want it to make Console Gameplay better than it usually is.

Simply because there's no denying that publishers make more money from the Console Front than they do from the PC Front -- I'll assume that's because more people own a Console than they do a Gaming PC, whether adequate or high-end. If they develop from a PC standpoint first, then scale it back for Consoles and Consoles benefit from it as a whole and from this sales increase... then everyone wins. PC Gamers don't have to deal with ports of any sort and Console Gamers have a better experience.

Why wish what the PC had to deal with on the Consoles? That just ruins it for everyone.

EDIT: I should probably add that what I said regarding the PC not having to deal with ports is more than likely the best case scenario. It's not guaranteed, but the chances of it happening are probably a lot higher if Consoles benefit from this.

I wasn't being entirely serious when I said that console gamers should have to deal with a crappy port of this game because it's being developed for PC. In fact, the entire point of the article is what you just stated: that this game being developed for PC will make it better for everyone
This is another reason why I'll be supporting the devs. If this is a success and catches on in the industry - console gamers will get better games and PC gamers won't have to deal with crappy porting!

EDIT: I'm not so childish as to be anti-console! I'm merely anti-wasting-my-money-on-broken-PC-ports! If this method of development brings console gaming forward, then that's a good thing in my book.

I must apologize then, sometimes I can get a bit dense... oh, and I'm a cynic which doesn't mesh well with the former. It wasn't till much later did it ever occur to me that I might have jumped the gun, why didn't I change my stance? Pfft! Admitting you're wrong before you're proven wrong is for suckers. That's why.

Nah, but I'm glad to know I was wrong. And yeah, DICE pretty much sold me when they said that they're developing with the PC in mind to benefit everyone. Well, that and those trailers of theirs. Those are pretty nice too.

 

[The Hero Killer]

Why do all of the games with top of the line graphics have to be some kind of shooter? Is nobody able to produce this type of quality in an rpg or some type of action adventure game?

 

[searanox]

Why do all of the games with top of the line graphics have to be some kind of shooter? Is nobody able to produce this type of quality in an rpg or some type of action adventure game?

Shooters have a precedent of great graphics, and as first-person games almost predominantly, it's harder to get away with mediocre visuals when the whole point is to put the player "into" the experience. Shooters also have a precedent of selling boatloads, of course, so publishers are more than happy to funnel huge amounts of money into their development in hopes of being the next golden goose. Adventure and RPG titles are typically thought of as "niche market" or "risky" genres, and as such publishers are nowhere near as likely to touch one unless it is easily marketable (based on an established franchise, has really obvious/generic appeal that meets the "Metacritic checklist", etc.).

That said, I'm more than happy with "dated" graphics in RPGs. I like good graphics as much as anyone else, but RPGs are huge games and require significantly more development time, QA etc. than shooters do. Budgets aren't unlimited and I'm willing to put up with visuals that aren't cutting-edge if it means the rest of the game is better for it. And it's not like our current crop of RPGs look "bad"... they may not be as visually stunning as the next big shooter, but they often have pretty good art direction and look good enough to "get the point across". That's all I need.

 

[Nocola]

Is anyone else getting more than a little tired of playing an invincible ball of testosterone and lead, shooting stereotypical brown people in the desert...?

 

[searanox]

Is anyone else getting more than a little tired of playing an invincible ball of testosterone and lead, shooting stereotypical brown people in the desert...?

"More than a little tired" isn't the half of it for me. I groan every single time I see yet another promising game turn out to be the same old study in grey urban decay and xenophobia. And some of the gameplay footage is getting so uncanny that I feel genuinely uncomfortable and put-off by the image of a white US soldier brutally beating a Muslim "insurgent" to death from first-person perspective. I'd buy the "it's social commentary/art" argument, except absolutely none of these games attempt anything close to a reasonable discourse that shows both sides of the conflict in an accurate way. Of course, it also doesn't help that apparently the average US soldier apparently has a kill count numbering in the hundreds.

 

[Frostbite3789]

So, how is the game-play?

Have you played a Battlefield game in the past 10 years?

There you go.

 

[_alter_ego]

Cars don't really explode, they just burn. The only time they do explode are in hollywood movies and video games. Inorder for a car to really go Boom like they did in the Battlefield 3 trailer you need to fill the car with a special fuel out side of the gas tank (which contains any explosions).

Video of cars burning with fuel and NOT exploding...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zr5ggK4ryT4

 

[-Samurai-]

So, how is the game-play?

Have you played a Battlefield game in the past 10 years?

There you go.

Which is exactly my point.

it plays and feels like every other shooter in the past 10 years.

 

[_alter_ego]

I'm sure that DICE could make a compelling war game but its hard. Analogy: Most action-war movies use cheap thrills, violence, and tropes to make them float similar to Call of Duty games. However Generation Kill is an example of a great war film which breaks out of the mold but requires talent, hard work, and innovation. Unfortunately I don't think EA/DICE has any of the above.

 

[_alter_ego]

I'm sure that DICE could make a compelling war game but its hard. Analogy: Most action-war movies use cheap thrills, violence, and tropes to make them float similar to Call of Duty games. However Generation Kill is an example of a great war film which breaks out of the mold but requires talent, hard work, and innovation. Unfortunately I don't think EA/DICE has any of the above.

 

[CCountZero]

yeah like that last modern warfare game where..we jumped mountain tops...on a snowmobile

Actually, the jump could easily be doable. Far as I recall, there's sort of a ramp-like incline right at the end.
Combined with the insane speed the snowmobile seems to be travelling at on the way down.

Therein lies my own complaint though. No way in hell would you have control over a snowmobile in that situation, you'd be far more likely to flip over and die.

 

[SovietSecrets]

Honestly if they hold to making this game PC first consoles second then I will pick it up. After the disaster of Black Ops, DICE is looking pretty good right now in my eyes.