Diplomacy: Game Over
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Good commentary, Carl.
I must apologize for the lateness of this retreats map. It was due to a combination of Halloween, forgetfulness, and me not being home since five in the morning.
Here it is.
Remember, orders are due on Sunday. That would be tomorrow, unfortunately, so if your plans counted heavily on where that fleet retreated to you don't have much time. If you feel that you need more time you can petition for an extension, which I will promptly ignore.
Good plotting, gentlemen.
I must apologize for the lateness of this retreats map. It was due to a combination of Halloween, forgetfulness, and me not being home since five in the morning.
Here it is.
Remember, orders are due on Sunday. That would be tomorrow, unfortunately, so if your plans counted heavily on where that fleet retreated to you don't have much time. If you feel that you need more time you can petition for an extension, which I will promptly ignore.
Good plotting, gentlemen.
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/Dateline- November 1904/
Austrian Collapse!
Tension on the continent rises, more so in Austria-Hungary than anywhere else.
It is believed Emperor Franz Joseph, leader of the Austro-Hungarian Empire, has abdicated, whether by choice or whether by force is unclear at this stage.
What is clear is that the situation was caused by recent aggression against the Empire by Russian and Turkish forces. The conflict is most likely the cause of the rival powers jealousy at the wealth gained by the Austrians and Germans in the recent joint-campaign of justice against Italy that began in 1902.
Before abdication the Crown Prince, Franz Ferdinand, sent an Eleventh hour plea to Turkish and Russian leaders, however it was ignored. The Times has been unable to confirm this, as the Prince himself lead the desperate and outnumbered final charge of 1st Vienna Royal Lancers against the Constantinople 7th Artillery Battalion, the 3rd Armenian Mounted Infantry and the 9th Serbian Volunteers. Despite inflicting heavy casualties, the Lancers were wiped out to a man, Ferdinand among the dead.
Franz-Joseph's inaction against the aggressors who caused the Crown Princes death lead to widespread riots and civil unrest throughout the Empire, many of the involved had seen Ferdinand as their one hope against a humiliating defeat at the hands of the Russian-Turkish union, still more had seen him as a better leader than the impotent and cold-footed Emperor.
His death has put those hopes to end and the masses screamed out for change. After weeks of violence in the streets of Vienna and fires in docks of Trieste, the mobs were finally quelled by the announcement that the Emperor had disbanded the government and left the throne open.
The announcer was Ferdinands former military counselor, Grand General Alexandru Borbelay. In a call for calm, the General denounced the actions of the Emperor, and lauded Ferdinand as a hero of the nation. Continuing on, he delivered a rousing speech from the former Imperial Palace at Budapest, in an address that was heard all throughout the Empire on the wireless:
"It is time we stand together. It is time we stand as one. Not as an Empire, but as a people. Not because we were forced together by an autocratic ruler, but because we live together as brothers and sisters.
Now it is time we show the enemy the true nature of our nation.
They were warned, but they ignored the warnings. They were cautioned, but they continued on. The wheels have been set in motion against the foreign aggressors!
...And there will be no stopping until they are defeated!
It will be not be easy, but it is acheivable. It will not be simple, but it can be done.
In honour of the valiant sacrifice by the Crown Prince, in honour of all that is sacred to our country, and in the need of the people of this country...
Strength. Resilience. Fortitude. In the face of the angry foe."
Upon hearing this announcement, the mutinous military forces flocked to the Generals banner, and it is believed he has the full support of the general public.
In response to foreign criticisms of his abuses of power and calls for him to reform the parliament, General Borbelay had only this to say to the ministers who unanimously voted to give him Supreme Rule of Austria-Hungary:
"It is with great reluctance that I have agreed to this calling. I loved the Government. I loved the Empire. The powers you give me I will lay down when this crisis has be abated! My first act, with this new authority, is to re-create a Grand Army of Austria-Hungary, to counter the increasing threat of Russia and Turkey."
///Wilfred Alfonse reporting for the New York Times///
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/Dateline- November 1904/
Austrian Collapse!
Tension on the continent rises, more so in Austria-Hungary than anywhere else.
It is believed Emperor Franz Joseph, leader of the Austro-Hungarian Empire, has abdicated, whether by choice or whether by force is unclear at this stage.
What is clear is that the situation was caused by recent aggression against the Empire by Russian and Turkish forces. The conflict is most likely the cause of the rival powers jealousy at the wealth gained by the Austrians and Germans in the recent joint-campaign of justice against Italy that began in 1902.
Before abdication the Crown Prince, Franz Ferdinand, sent an Eleventh hour plea to Turkish and Russian leaders, however it was ignored. The Times has been unable to confirm this, as the Prince himself lead the desperate and outnumbered final charge of 1st Vienna Royal Lancers against the Constantinople 7th Artillery Battalion, the 3rd Armenian Mounted Infantry and the 9th Serbian Volunteers. Despite inflicting heavy casualties, the Lancers were wiped out to a man, Ferdinand among the dead.
Franz-Joseph's inaction against the aggressors who caused the Crown Princes death lead to widespread riots and civil unrest throughout the Empire, many of the involved had seen Ferdinand as their one hope against a humiliating defeat at the hands of the Russian-Turkish union, still more had seen him as a better leader than the impotent and cold-footed Emperor.
His death has put those hopes to end and the masses screamed out for change. After weeks of violence in the streets of Vienna and fires in docks of Trieste, the mobs were finally quelled by the announcement that the Emperor had disbanded the government and left the throne open.
The announcer was Ferdinands former military counselor, Grand General Alexandru Borbelay. In a call for calm, the General denounced the actions of the Emperor, and lauded Ferdinand as a hero of the nation. Continuing on, he delivered a rousing speech from the former Imperial Palace at Budapest, in an address that was heard all throughout the Empire on the wireless:
"It is time we stand together. It is time we stand as one. Not as an Empire, but as a people. Not because we were forced together by an autocratic ruler, but because we live together as brothers and sisters.
Now it is time we show the enemy the true nature of our nation.
They were warned, but they ignored the warnings. They were cautioned, but they continued on. The wheels have been set in motion against the foreign aggressors!
...And there will be no stopping until they are defeated!
It will be not be easy, but it is acheivable. It will not be simple, but it can be done.
In honour of the valiant sacrifice by the Crown Prince, in honour of all that is sacred to our country, and in the need of the people of this country...
Strength. Resilience. Fortitude. In the face of the angry foe."
Upon hearing this announcement, the mutinous military forces flocked to the Generals banner, and it is believed he has the full support of the general public.
In response to foreign criticisms of his abuses of power and calls for him to reform the parliament, General Borbelay had only this to say to the ministers who unanimously voted to give him Supreme Rule of Austria-Hungary:
"It is with great reluctance that I have agreed to this calling. I loved the Government. I loved the Empire. The powers you give me I will lay down when this crisis has be abated! My first act, with this new authority, is to re-create a Grand Army of Austria-Hungary, to counter the increasing threat of Russia and Turkey."
///Wilfred Alfonse reporting for the New York Times///
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The results of Fall 1904:
I've started setting a stricter deadline for orders recently, because I've been incredibly busy and don't have the time to wait. Unfortunately, that means that Russia is in civil unrest this turn, because I haven't gotten any orders from him. Sorry, Wes, but I can't wait any longer.
Get retreats in to me ASAP: I need one for the fleet in Eng and for the army in Rum. You can send in build orders too, if you like, but I'm not going to post who needs to send in builds quite yet.
Also, this turn marks the end of Italy: the unit is still on the board because we haven't finished the retreat phase yet. Spartan, you get a twenty-one gun salute, a medal, and my thanks for playing. Then the Austrians and the Germans will probably send you into exile on some island or other.
That is all, gentlemen.
FALL 1904
Austria
F Tun-Ion [Bounced with Aeg (1 against 1)[/b]
F Nap Hold
A Tri-Ser Bounced with Ser (1 against 1)
A Bud-Gal Bounced with Gal (1 against 1)
Turkey
A Gre-Alb
F Ion-Adr
F Aeg-Ion Bounced with Tun (1 against 1)
A Bul-Rum
F Bla S A Bul-Rum
A Ser holds
England
F Por - holds.
A Yor to Lon.
F Nth to Eng
F Nwg - Holds.
A Swe - Holds
A Fin to Nwy.
Italy
A Pie-Tyr
France
F Eng convoy A Pic-Wal Dislodged from Nth (2 against 1)
A Pic-Wal Convoy path failed
A Spa hold
A Mar hold
Germany
a lvn S a fin to stp Support failed. Supported unit's order does not match support given.
a ven S tri Support failed. Move orders must be supported explicitly.
a rom S nap
a sil to war Bounced with War (1 against 1)
f bal S den
f bel s hol
a hol s bel
a den hold
Russia
Civil Unrest
Riots in Warsaw.
Sevastopol is being looted.
We have lost contact with the fleet in the Gulf of Bothnia.
A Rum dislodged from Bul (2 against 1)
Austria
F Tun-Ion [Bounced with Aeg (1 against 1)[/b]
F Nap Hold
A Tri-Ser Bounced with Ser (1 against 1)
A Bud-Gal Bounced with Gal (1 against 1)
Turkey
A Gre-Alb
F Ion-Adr
F Aeg-Ion Bounced with Tun (1 against 1)
A Bul-Rum
F Bla S A Bul-Rum
A Ser holds
England
F Por - holds.
A Yor to Lon.
F Nth to Eng
F Nwg - Holds.
A Swe - Holds
A Fin to Nwy.
Italy
A Pie-Tyr
France
F Eng convoy A Pic-Wal Dislodged from Nth (2 against 1)
A Pic-Wal Convoy path failed
A Spa hold
A Mar hold
Germany
a lvn S a fin to stp Support failed. Supported unit's order does not match support given.
a ven S tri Support failed. Move orders must be supported explicitly.
a rom S nap
a sil to war Bounced with War (1 against 1)
f bal S den
f bel s hol
a hol s bel
a den hold
Russia
Civil Unrest
Riots in Warsaw.
Sevastopol is being looted.
We have lost contact with the fleet in the Gulf of Bothnia.
A Rum dislodged from Bul (2 against 1)
I've started setting a stricter deadline for orders recently, because I've been incredibly busy and don't have the time to wait. Unfortunately, that means that Russia is in civil unrest this turn, because I haven't gotten any orders from him. Sorry, Wes, but I can't wait any longer.
Get retreats in to me ASAP: I need one for the fleet in Eng and for the army in Rum. You can send in build orders too, if you like, but I'm not going to post who needs to send in builds quite yet.
Also, this turn marks the end of Italy: the unit is still on the board because we haven't finished the retreat phase yet. Spartan, you get a twenty-one gun salute, a medal, and my thanks for playing. Then the Austrians and the Germans will probably send you into exile on some island or other.
That is all, gentlemen.
Wait...you said as long as I have a unit on the board I can keep playing, what's going on here?Zemalac said:
(Yes, I know I have no chance, but I figured I'd keep playing for fun, also, to anyone who thinks I'm a bad commander, playing as Italy is fucking hard, you start boxed in and without room to move, so shut up!)
If I am out, farewell fellow leaders, and I would like to be in the next game as well(here's hoping I get a different country next time)
Scheming? Who haven't you turned against yet? I imagine its a pretty short list.Saskwach said:
Also, the police action against Italy was justified in accordance with international law, General Borbelay is the Peoples Duly Elected Leader of Naples and Tunisia.
-said a senior aide to General Borbelay at a failed peace conference.
"Police action" is an interesting term for promising Italy that you were planning to double cross Germany in their favour, only to let the Hun drive south and take Rome for yourself. Yes I am aware of that little masterwork of duplicity. You should know that had you not shown yourself to be so two-faced so quickly, and had you not threatened me with the anger of the "Austro-German alliance's" - a wrath you had no authority to call forth - our dealings would have been far more amicable. You have chosen the manner of my dealings with you - don't suddenly demure and claim moral superiority.Armitage Shanks said:
The current Peoples Duly Elected Revolutionary Government cannot be held responsible for any past dealings of Emperor Franz Joseph. We do not even have the knowledge of such events, if they did indeed happen, and if you are not just fabricating them, as is often the Ottoman way.Saskwach said:
What we do have is a dead ambassador and an Italian government that failed to investigate. What we do have is an Italian government that has repeatedly sued for peace only to attack German and Austro-Hungarian troops.
Face it Turkey, you are just a dying star who has always been envious of the European powers, because you never could, and never will acheive the same level of prestige or influence.
I don't begrudge you for it, but I suggest there are alternate routes to conflict resolution besides the military ones, you just seem unaware of them.
-The same aid, several hours later at the still peace conference.
Turkey would remind the Peoples' Duly Elected Revolutionary Government that Tome was taken under their orders, not the previous administration's. Such a move reflects a continuation of policy that the new government is publicly washing its hands of, while still enjoying the fruits of.
Claims of Italian peace calls and betrayals are not borne out by reports from the front; Italy has continually cooperated with its oppressors, only to be finally betrayed by this new government which claims innocence of any wrong-doing.
Claims of Italian peace calls and betrayals are not borne out by reports from the front; Italy has continually cooperated with its oppressors, only to be finally betrayed by this new government which claims innocence of any wrong-doing.
Oh shut up Shanks, Italy would like to remind you that you double crossed us, not once, not twice, but three times, and you know what I said through PM is true. You will regret not having more allies, nay, anyone who trusts you at all, once Germany becomes even greedier than he is now and invades you. His country is bloated, you would have no chance as almost everyone would be willing to assist in your defeat. So there you go, once your country is taken and your fields have been raped and your women salted, you will wish you had a friendly shoulder to cry on
Yes, if that unit were going to remain in play, you would still be able to fight.Spartan Bannana post=362.72872.880293 said:
However, the next phase of play is where you need to make the number of units you control equal to the number of supply centers you control. Which for you is, I'm sad to say, zero.
You fought the good fight, were double-crossed, and fell. That's Diplomacy for ya.
In the meantime, it seems that there is an in-character arguement going on...which is interesting, since this is Diplomacy and the characters are countries.
Technically, leaders of those countries, but you're right. Armitage is a new leader where he once was the King of Austria-Hungary (in a sad attempt to deflect blame. As a side note, I'm confused as to how the double monarchy worked out) and I'm loosely Sultan Mehmed VI. Anyone else who cares to join in is welcome to wiki the leader of their nation and start slinging some mud around.Zemalac said:
I am apparently Victor Emmanuel III. I have a kickass moustache! you will now refer to me as Victor Emanuel III and my moustache as Harry Baddass III
Also, espionage FTW! I found the Austrian Naval plans of 1904! [http://books.google.com/books?id=qU4MJvR_yUAC&pg=RA1-PA169&lpg=RA1-PA169&dq=ruler+of+Italy,+1904&source=bl&ots=6ZYiCprGBp&sig=KbtAMHljH-fh41H3xOBnxVqEQ_c&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=4&ct=result#PRA1-PA169,M1]
Also, espionage FTW! I found the Austrian Naval plans of 1904! [http://books.google.com/books?id=qU4MJvR_yUAC&pg=RA1-PA169&lpg=RA1-PA169&dq=ruler+of+Italy,+1904&source=bl&ots=6ZYiCprGBp&sig=KbtAMHljH-fh41H3xOBnxVqEQ_c&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=4&ct=result#PRA1-PA169,M1]
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-and in other news, Victor Emmanuel III was shot to death in his country manor, where he had been under house arrest. The defeated monarch was awaiting exile to America, but he was killed by Italian pro-Austro-Hungarian Collaborators. It is possible his mustache Harry Baddass III was also set on fire.
The mood is jubilant in the streets of Italy, where many believed that ailing head of state had, through poor tactics and bad foreign policy, dragged the nation into a costly and un-winnable war.
"I certainly wouldn't wish death upon him, but yes, I am glad he is gone, and I welcome the Peoples Duly Elected Revolutionary Government, they sound friendly," said a gelato vendor amid street celebrations in Naples.
Austrian General Borbelay expressed his "most profound regret" but claimed that there was nothing he could do. He then went onto outline new government policy called "The 5 Year Plan."
Wilfred Alfonse, New York Times
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I'm just gonna head into OOC for a sec to say that you saying that I dragged the nation into war is BULLSHIT!!! All conflicts with each other were your fault Shanks, and once I have the energy, I'll make up a Telecorespondance about how you will no doubt betray your own citizens once you've run out of people to stab in the back.
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It is with a heavy heart and sadness everywhere that I, Herbert Henry Asquith Prime Minister of the United Kingdom, declare war on those snail-eating bastards accross the canal.
The previous Minister of France, The_Logician, had a agreement with me. And seeing that the new Minister of france has abandoned those gentlemen's agreements, and even going as far as attacking my proud capital has left me with no other choice.
I have sent the Minister of france a message with a proposal for peace, so our countries can both, live and forget.
He denied this.
And now as Prime Minister of the United Kingdom I call all of those who call themselfs my friend, allies or pro-peace hippy's to join me in battle, not for blood, not for expansion and not even for the fun of it. I call you for justice.
I call you forth to battle, to let every country know that invasion of the homeland is not something that you will live down.
You. Will Pay.
But even then, I will honour the agreements made by his predecessor. As soon as Jean-claude Meatspace comes to me with his head pointing south. He will be forgiven.
For peace.
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It is with a heavy heart and sadness everywhere that I, Herbert Henry Asquith Prime Minister of the United Kingdom, declare war on those snail-eating bastards accross the canal.
The previous Minister of France, The_Logician, had a agreement with me. And seeing that the new Minister of france has abandoned those gentlemen's agreements, and even going as far as attacking my proud capital has left me with no other choice.
I have sent the Minister of france a message with a proposal for peace, so our countries can both, live and forget.
He denied this.
And now as Prime Minister of the United Kingdom I call all of those who call themselfs my friend, allies or pro-peace hippy's to join me in battle, not for blood, not for expansion and not even for the fun of it. I call you for justice.
I call you forth to battle, to let every country know that invasion of the homeland is not something that you will live down.
You. Will Pay.
But even then, I will honour the agreements made by his predecessor. As soon as Jean-claude Meatspace comes to me with his head pointing south. He will be forgiven.
For peace.
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Armitage Shanks post=362.72872.882369 said:
Spartan Bannana post=362.72872.882491 said:
Whoa, WHOA. As GM I think I need to step in here. This is getting a little out of hand.
Spartan, please, no personal attacks. No OOC swearing, no threats.
Armitage, I realize that you're just role-playing and having fun in character, but declaring that your opponent has been shot and then writing up negative reactions for his own people is a bit much. You're coming close to bad sportsmanship here.
Yes, Shanks played a major part in defeating Italy. Yes, he did it by betraying Spartan, possibly more than once. That is no reason for this conversation to degrade into personal attacks. This is Diplomacy. That is what happens. You are expected to show a certain level of detachment, and I certainly expect better from both of you.
You may resume your roleplaying, but please keep that all-important level of detachment. I don't enjoy having to step in like this.
Still waiting for retreat orders