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PsychedelicDiamond

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Ben Hur (1959)

One of those quintessential "remember when Christian movies could be cool?" movies, from a time when when the people producing them still believed in the general notion that the gravity of the material warrants production on a biblical scale. Opulent period epics with gigantic sets and hundreds of extras, rather than making them about Kirk Cameron telling a housewife from the American midwest about how Jesus will liberate her from her abusive husband if she votes for Trump and opposes a free Palestine or whatever the hell they're about now.

That said, for most of Ben Hur's runtime Jesus is a very understated presence and even when he shows up, the direction treats him like the prophet Muhammed, going out of its way not to show his face. Ben Hur follows a man alive at roughly the same time, judean noble Judah Ben Hur, who starts off being enslaved by the Roman Empire after being blamed for an assassination attempt for refusing to sell out his countrymen, saves and befriends a Roman consul after a naval battle, becomes a man of high status in Rome and returns to Judea to challenge the man who enslaved him and imprisoned his family to a chariot race, the actual depiction of which still stands as some of the coolest shit you're ever gonna see in a movie.

Ben Hur is neither a movie of great historical accuracy (according to an anecdote, when director William Wyler invited a historian to the set and asked her for advice how to make it more accurate her response was: "First of all, you'd have to burn all of it down") nor of particular emotional depth and especially not of believable plotting, but what it has going for it is the sheer scale of it all. As some over the top biblical fanfiction, it depicts a swashbuckling tale of liberation and revenge that grows so audacious it treats the life and death of Jesus Christ as a glorified background event.

Charlton Heston plays the titular character with a gravity that clearly shows that he has zero regard for how silly he looks in traditional Middle Eastern clothes while playing off a series of surprisingly memorable side characters. Stephen Boyd as Messala is a surprisingly charismatic antagonist, despite being absent from most of the movies middle part and Hugh Griffith as an Arab sheikh and Frank Thring as Pontius Pilate do manage to dominate every scene they're in.

For being very long, the movie moves at a very quick pace, up until the final act when it suddenly remembers that it's supposed to be about Jesus and comes to a bit of a halt. It somewhat feels like there's a major missed opportunity to contrast the story of a movie about revenge with the central Christian principle of forgiveness there, which makes it difficult for me to not view the whole christian angle as kind of incidental.

Ben Hur works way better as a pseudo historical spectacle than as a serious commentary on faith but as far as pseudo historical spectacles go, it's extremely impressive. The scale and sheer audacity of the production blow almost everything else out of the water and are, in a sense, even more amazing now than they were back when it was made. It's wasteful and indulgent (then again, not like modern high budget film making isn't) but it's hard not be at least a little sad that I didn't get to live in a time when movies like this could be made.
 
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Wow I certainly did not expect to see a Ben Hur review when I clicked in here lol. I can't even think of this movie- and Ten Commandments- as "movies," they were just always on basic cable around the holiday and I watched them like 100x without ever actually watching them, if you know what I mean.

Ballerina (2023) 7/10

A Korean action revenge film about a woman whose ballerina bff is murdered after being ensnared into sexual slavery so she tracks down and kills the sumbiches. It's ok, some cool fight scenes albeit with some of the hyper anime-style editing I'm not always crazy about. It's nice and short. Some moody flash backs and tropey tropes made some of it drag though. I dunno, I probably won't remember I watched in a few weeks but it was a good enough time if you like this sort of thing.
It's on Netflix.

I'm in the mood for some Korean action films after Dev Patell cited them as an influence on his highly anticipated Monkey Man.
 

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Godzilla X Kong: New Empire
How and why is this movie a 10/10? Ten reasons why:
  1. It's kinda like Pokemon and everyone loves Pokemon.
  2. Earth might be hollow but flat is justice: all the major male characters have more chest than any of the women.
  3. Hidden connection between Kong and Shrek hidden in plain sight.
  4. People die, but in a PG-13 way. No horrors for kids.
  5. Asian actors in non-speaking roles. They are mute for cultural reasons. Very respectful.
  6. Flashing lights to keep the epileptics away from the theater.
  7. Bromance.
  8. Different English accents for those with a keen ear.
  9. The main characters are smart people but the stuff they see is so much weirder they are humbled again and again.
  10. The movie goes all out. It cannot be topped and thus the series must end here.
 
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I'd also recommend Khartoum and 55 Days at Peking if you liked to massive grandeur of Ben Hur.
 

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It somewhat feels like there's a major missed opportunity to contrast the story of a movie about revenge with the central Christian principle of forgiveness there
😂 Goodness, the very idea that forgiveness has ever passed through the mind of Hollywood action film makers. They are the law of the Wild West, not the Bible.
 

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V for Vendetta. It was pretty bad. I watched it because I always see the memes of the crowds of people wearing Guy Fawkes masks. I feel like the movie was trying a lot of different things and didn't really pull off any of them. There was the stockholm syndrome love story about Eevee and V that didn't do anything for me, and there was the revolution plot that was pretty cliche and predictable, and then there was the investigation plot by that cop that didn't amount to anything. It was a lot of flash but no substance and just left me asking a lot of basic questions like "why did the virus give him super reaction speed and intelligence" or "where do all his money and resources come from" or "how does he have time to do crap like watch movies and set up 10 000 dominoes when he's single-handedly trying to overthrow a government?"

I wouldn't watch it again.
 
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V for Vendetta. It was pretty bad. I watched it because I always see the memes of the crowds of people wearing Guy Fawkes masks. I feel like the movie was trying a lot of different things and didn't really pull off any of them. There was the stockholm syndrome love story about Eevee and V that didn't do anything for me, and there was the revolution plot that was pretty cliche and predictable, and then there was the investigation plot by that cop that didn't amount to anything. It was a lot of flash but no substance and just left me asking a lot of basic questions like "why did the virus give him super reaction speed and intelligence" or "where do all his money and resources come from" or "how does he have time to do crap like watch movies and set up 10 000 dominoes when he's single-handedly trying to overthrow a government?"

I wouldn't watch it again.
Yeah, got that on DVD ages ago, back when the fans where more vocal, watched it once.
 

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V for Vendetta. It was pretty bad. I watched it because I always see the memes of the crowds of people wearing Guy Fawkes masks. I feel like the movie was trying a lot of different things and didn't really pull off any of them. There was the stockholm syndrome love story about Eevee and V that didn't do anything for me, and there was the revolution plot that was pretty cliche and predictable, and then there was the investigation plot by that cop that didn't amount to anything. It was a lot of flash but no substance and just left me asking a lot of basic questions like "why did the virus give him super reaction speed and intelligence" or "where do all his money and resources come from" or "how does he have time to do crap like watch movies and set up 10 000 dominoes when he's single-handedly trying to overthrow a government?"

I wouldn't watch it again.
Yeah, got that on DVD ages ago, back when the fans where more vocal, watched it once.
I used to have the DVD, but sold it back when I was 19. It was fine, but I know Alan Moore hates the movie and doesn't consider it a true adaption of his comic. I cannot blame him.
 

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I used to have the DVD, but sold it back when I was 19. It was fine, but I know Alan Moore hates the movie and doesn't consider it a true adaption of his comic. I cannot blame him.
Saying Alan Moore doesn't like something is pretty meaningless because he doesn't like anything.
 

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Saying Alan Moore doesn't like something is pretty meaningless because he doesn't like anything.
Nope. It's not meaningless because he loves "For The Man Who Has Everything" episode of Justice League Unlimited. Shows how little you know.


Also, I love this quote from one of the users in the comment section:

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This is the one adaptation of his work that Alan Moore likes...
Let that sink in, Alan Moore who famously hates adaptations of his work and superheroes, likes this episode of Justice League Unlimited.
 
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For Your Eyes Only

Moore's fifth Bond, directed by John Glen, who went on to direct a record number of Bond movies (two more Moores and then the two Daltons). Glen got his start as editor/second unit director and this is indeed very much the work of a great editor/second unit director - though maybe not a very good director per se. The stunts are great, the editing is pretty slick by 80s standards and the set-pieces are top notch but it all feels very episodic and there's little of interest going on in between. It's also not like we haven't seen Bond already do variations of everything he does here: there's a car chase downhill, an underwater fight with frogmen, a raid on a warehouse, yet another spectacular skiing sequence, etc.

The setting is beautifully, uniformly Mediterranean so the movie never really refreshes; but for the obligatory Moore ski sequence in the Alps the Spanish/Italian/Greek/Turkish (?) settings all blend together. We've seen the feral/orphaned Bond girl on a quest for revenge way too many times at this point and the "surprise" villain is probably the most regular dude Bond has ever faced.

The tone is also all over the place. First of all, it starts with a reference to Bond's dead wife from On Her Majesty's Secret Service, having Bond visit her grave and then enacting vengeance (quite randomly) on an unnamed but totally-Blofeld (he Loony Tunes him from a helicopter). Cut to titles and the rest of the movie, which feels more like a low-stakes adventure movie about smugglers than a Bond movie. The escape-the-death-trap scene is particularly gnarly - Bond and girl are towed behind a yacht at full speed, chased by sharks while getting gored and bloodied by coral reefs. Yet by the end we're back in Austin Powers territory: Margaret Thatcher herself phones in to congratulate Bond, who puts a horny parrot on the phone instead.

Bonus: Charles Dance (Tywin Lannister) appears as a minor antagonist who dies by getting shot with a crossbow bolt. What are the odds!
 

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Moore's fifth Bond, directed by John Glen, who went on to direct a record number of Bond movies (two more Moores and then the two Daltons). Glen got his start as editor/second unit director and this is indeed very much the work of a great editor/second unit director - though maybe not a very good director per se. The stunts are great, the editing is pretty slick by 80s standards and the set-pieces are top notch but it all feels very episodic and there's little of interest going on in between. It's also not like we haven't seen Bond already do variations of everything he does here: there's a car chase downhill, an underwater fight with frogmen, a raid on a warehouse, yet another spectacular skiing sequence, etc.

The setting is beautifully, uniformly Mediterranean so the movie never really refreshes; but for the obligatory Moore ski sequence in the Alps the Spanish/Italian/Greek/Turkish (?) settings all blend together. We've seen the feral/orphaned Bond girl on a quest for revenge way too many times at this point and the "surprise" villain is probably the most regular dude Bond has ever faced.

The tone is also all over the place. First of all, it starts with a reference to Bond's dead wife from On Her Majesty's Secret Service, having Bond visit her grave and then enacting vengeance (quite randomly) on an unnamed but totally-Blofeld (he Loony Tunes him from a helicopter). Cut to titles and the rest of the movie, which feels more like a low-stakes adventure movie about smugglers than a Bond movie. The escape-the-death-trap scene is particularly gnarly - Bond and girl are towed behind a yacht at full speed, chased by sharks while getting gored and bloodied by coral reefs. Yet by the end we're back in Austin Powers territory: Margaret Thatcher herself phones in to congratulate Bond, who puts a horny parrot on the phone instead.

Bonus: Charles Dance (Tywin Lannister) appears as a minor antagonist who dies by getting shot with a crossbow bolt. What are the odds!
I quite liked this movie, partially because it was so different from the other Moore Bond movies, and I also thought that Melina was at least portrayed as being competent in her revenge hunt, rather than in over her head or needing to be saved by Bond.
 

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V for Vendetta. It was pretty bad. I watched it because I always see the memes of the crowds of people wearing Guy Fawkes masks. I feel like the movie was trying a lot of different things and didn't really pull off any of them. There was the stockholm syndrome love story about Eevee and V that didn't do anything for me, and there was the revolution plot that was pretty cliche and predictable, and then there was the investigation plot by that cop that didn't amount to anything. It was a lot of flash but no substance and just left me asking a lot of basic questions like "why did the virus give him super reaction speed and intelligence" or "where do all his money and resources come from" or "how does he have time to do crap like watch movies and set up 10 000 dominoes when he's single-handedly trying to overthrow a government?"

I wouldn't watch it again.
Yeah, got that on DVD ages ago, back when the fans where more vocal, watched it once.
I used to have the DVD, but sold it back when I was 19. It was fine, but I know Alan Moore hates the movie and doesn't consider it a true adaption of his comic. I cannot blame him.
Ah, Really? I quite liked the movie. I found it easy to forgive the not-explained inconsistencies (V's workload and plot-armor, Creedy's bad preparation etc.) in favor of theme, messaging, overall great scenes. Movie was an easy 7/10 for me. Entertaining, good message. (Question is: would i have liked it more, if the Chancellor was in love with his computer?)


So, i have watched "The Unbearable Weight of Massive Talent ", the Nicolas Cage vehicle. My verdict: Eh... Pretty wasted potential. The film starts like it would like to tell us something. It dangles a few things in front of us. "Acting and the person you really are", Ego, perceptions and expectations of actors. But in the end, it defied my expectations... and deflated by playing the plot straight... and dumb. (I had envisioned two possible plot-twists and were really disappointed. I mean it's nice to get surprised... but you know. Not like this.)

CGI-Nicki is distracting, The movie is pretty silly. Cage and Pascal are fun together. Overall: 5/10 - Pretty wasted potential. (Hell just have Cage and Pascal hang out for a week and eat ice-cream, watch movies, do LSD and write a script while both "Acting" against and for each other. That clearly was the best part.)
 
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I quite liked this movie, partially because it was so different from the other Moore Bond movies, and I also thought that Melina was at least portrayed as being competent in her revenge hunt, rather than in over her head or needing to be saved by Bond.
These are all starting to blend together but I didn't think she was too different from the lady in Spy Who Loved Me. Because her revenge is unbeknownst to her against Bond she can't complete it but she's shown to constantly one-up Bond. I also think she's played by the better actress/model.

I also didn't like Bond being all sanctimonious and hypocritical about revenge, and pulling a TLoU2 at the end. He murders a helpless Blofeld in the opening to avenge Tracy from SEVERAL movies ago, and then later murders that goon in revenge of the death of the Italian ally (Ferrara) he knew for like a scene. Yet he keeps chastising Melina for wanting to avenge her parents and bullshitting about "digging two graves" for her quest when he's never shown to be conflicted or hindered in his own series of vendettas. And at the very end he prevents her from personally killing the dude, which nearly costs her life.
 
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Ah, Really? I quite liked the movie. I found it easy to forgive the not-explained inconsistencies (V's workload and plot-armor, Creedy's bad preparation etc.) in favor of theme, messaging, overall great scenes. Movie was an easy 7/10 for me. Entertaining, good message. (Question is: would i have liked it more, if the Chancellor was in love with his computer?)
Like I said before, I don't hate the movie. It loves some impression on me as a teenager, but I always thought it was just okay. There are some good stuff and scenes in the movie though. I'm more than likely never going to watch this movie again, but since you love it, there's nothing wrong with that.