Do you think the harshness of the Hunter Exam is justified

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If you watched Hunter X Hunter you noticed alooooooot of people died during the exam so my question to everyone here is do you think the harshness of the exam is a necessary evil
 

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PapaGreg096 said:
If you watched Hunter X Hunter you noticed alooooooot of people died during the exam so my question to everyone here is do you think the harshness of the exam is a necessary evil
No. It's just more fun to watch that way ^^
Even though many are aware of the danger, it still seems odd such an event exists to wipe out a lot of people just for a few gems.

I'm a big fan of the original anime, but I can admit a lot of stuff doesn't make sense in that world. A lot!
 

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Nazulu said:
PapaGreg096 said:
If you watched Hunter X Hunter you noticed alooooooot of people died during the exam so my question to everyone here is do you think the harshness of the exam is a necessary evil
No. It's just more fun to watch that way ^^
Even though many are aware of the danger, it still seems odd such an event exists to wipe out a lot of people just for a few gems.

I'm a big fan of the original anime, but I can admit a lot of stuff doesn't make sense in that world. A lot!
Well the world is dangerous so it makes sense for them to have strong and perceptive people

erttheking said:
Uh, context for people who haven't watched the anime please?
Google Hunter Exam
 

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PapaGreg096 said:
Nazulu said:
PapaGreg096 said:
If you watched Hunter X Hunter you noticed alooooooot of people died during the exam so my question to everyone here is do you think the harshness of the exam is a necessary evil
No. It's just more fun to watch that way ^^
Even though many are aware of the danger, it still seems odd such an event exists to wipe out a lot of people just for a few gems.

I'm a big fan of the original anime, but I can admit a lot of stuff doesn't make sense in that world. A lot!
Well the world is dangerous so it makes sense for them to have strong and perceptive people
No, it doesn't make sense at all. They could find that out through safer training exercises, and then test out those who really stand above the rest in more dangerous challenges. Plus I believe all governments would love to get in on this, to hire such extraordinary talents.
 

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Nazulu said:
PapaGreg096 said:
Nazulu said:
PapaGreg096 said:
If you watched Hunter X Hunter you noticed alooooooot of people died during the exam so my question to everyone here is do you think the harshness of the exam is a necessary evil
No. It's just more fun to watch that way ^^
Even though many are aware of the danger, it still seems odd such an event exists to wipe out a lot of people just for a few gems.

I'm a big fan of the original anime, but I can admit a lot of stuff doesn't make sense in that world. A lot!
Well the world is dangerous so it makes sense for them to have strong and perceptive people
No, it doesn't make sense at all. They could find that out through safer training exercises, and then test out those who really stand above the rest in more dangerous challenges. Plus I believe all governments would love to get in on this, to hire such extraordinary talents.
Well the Hunter Association is more or less a private company and the job as a hunter is a very dangerous one so they don't need people who just half assed it, add to the fact that the Hunter License is worth so much money that someones great grandchildren can live off of it.
 

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PapaGreg096 said:
Nazulu said:
PapaGreg096 said:
Nazulu said:
PapaGreg096 said:
If you watched Hunter X Hunter you noticed alooooooot of people died during the exam so my question to everyone here is do you think the harshness of the exam is a necessary evil
No. It's just more fun to watch that way ^^
Even though many are aware of the danger, it still seems odd such an event exists to wipe out a lot of people just for a few gems.

I'm a big fan of the original anime, but I can admit a lot of stuff doesn't make sense in that world. A lot!
Well the world is dangerous so it makes sense for them to have strong and perceptive people
No, it doesn't make sense at all. They could find that out through safer training exercises, and then test out those who really stand above the rest in more dangerous challenges. Plus I believe all governments would love to get in on this, to hire such extraordinary talents.
Well the Hunter Association is more or less a private company and the job as a hunter is a very dangerous one so they don't need people who just half assed it, add to the fact that the Hunter License is worth so much money that someones great grandchildren can live off of it.
Lots of wells. A private company that should be illegal. And even when they become a hunter they still have to get a job, if they ever do, which also doesn't make sense in how it could offer such a support that people could live off it for a life time. Plus it seems like many of those licenses get stolen as it is if there are organisations that can survive of it.
 

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Nazulu said:
PapaGreg096 said:
Nazulu said:
PapaGreg096 said:
Nazulu said:
PapaGreg096 said:
If you watched Hunter X Hunter you noticed alooooooot of people died during the exam so my question to everyone here is do you think the harshness of the exam is a necessary evil
No. It's just more fun to watch that way ^^
Even though many are aware of the danger, it still seems odd such an event exists to wipe out a lot of people just for a few gems.

I'm a big fan of the original anime, but I can admit a lot of stuff doesn't make sense in that world. A lot!
Well the world is dangerous so it makes sense for them to have strong and perceptive people
No, it doesn't make sense at all. They could find that out through safer training exercises, and then test out those who really stand above the rest in more dangerous challenges. Plus I believe all governments would love to get in on this, to hire such extraordinary talents.
Well the Hunter Association is more or less a private company and the job as a hunter is a very dangerous one so they don't need people who just half assed it, add to the fact that the Hunter License is worth so much money that someones great grandchildren can live off of it.
Lots of wells. A private company that should be illegal. And even when they become a hunter they still have to get a job, if they ever do, which also doesn't make sense in how it could offer such a support that people could live off it for a life time. Plus it seems like many of those licenses get stolen as it is if there are organisations that can survive of it.
Why should the private company be illegal, also the reason why the Hunter License are so expensive is because 1 Hunters are allowed information and can enter location normal people can't access to. They are allowed to kill normal people and learn Nen(which okay a lot of non hunters know nen but eh). Also considering how Hunter's are the type of people who find rare ingredients, artifacts, jewels,bounties, animals, medicine, and other things certain people will pay a fortune for. And keep in mind 4 of the 10 richest people in that world are Hunters so its not like Hunters are in need of money
 

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Why should the private company be illegal, also the reason why the Hunter License are so expensive is because 1 Hunters are allowed information and can enter location normal people can't access to. They are allowed to kill normal people and learn Nen(which okay a lot of non hunters know nen but eh). Also considering how Hunter's are the type of people who find rare ingredients, artifacts, jewels,bounties, animals, medicine, and other things certain people will pay a fortune for. And keep in mind 4 of the 10 richest people in that world are Hunters so its not like Hunters are in need of money
You're not grasping what I'm saying. The entire concept makes no sense, and even if we were to ignore real life rules, there's a whole lot of other stuff that makes no sense. Like how not many know about nen, which is total wank. That information would spill over in no time.

A private company that's allowed to kill people off to find the best talents who don't have to follow any rules after? Sounds pretty illogical to me. There is no guarantee they're going to look for valuables or do anything else important either. Keep in mind that they said that even the devil could pass.
 

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Nazulu said:
PapaGreg096 said:
Why should the private company be illegal, also the reason why the Hunter License are so expensive is because 1 Hunters are allowed information and can enter location normal people can't access to. They are allowed to kill normal people and learn Nen(which okay a lot of non hunters know nen but eh). Also considering how Hunter's are the type of people who find rare ingredients, artifacts, jewels,bounties, animals, medicine, and other things certain people will pay a fortune for. And keep in mind 4 of the 10 richest people in that world are Hunters so its not like Hunters are in need of money
You're not grasping what I'm saying. The entire concept makes no sense, and even if we were to ignore real life rules, there's a whole lot of other stuff that makes no sense. Like how not many know about nen, which is total wank. That information would spill over in no time.

A private company that's allowed to kill people off to find the best talents who don't have to follow any rules after? Sounds pretty illogical to me. There is no guarantee they're going to look for valuables or do anything else important either. Keep in mind that they said that even the devil could pass.
How would the information be spilled over in no time keep in mind nen is pretty much invisible to non nen users and the ones who get it by getting the receiving end of an attack most likely will get crippled. For all non nen users know Nen must be magic or techniques they know its a special skill but they don't know the mechanics of it so to them its basically magic

Also its not like they kill them off but more along the lines of survival of the fittest, they aren't fit therefore they die add to the fact that anyone can volunteer to take the Hunter exam then they should know what they are getting into, personal responsibility dude. Its not really illogical but more amoral it does make sense in a way but its also apathetic also even if the people aren't going to look for valuables there are still countless Hunters who do such things so one person hunting other people won't make much of a difference.
 

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PapaGreg096 said:
Nazulu said:
PapaGreg096 said:
Why should the private company be illegal, also the reason why the Hunter License are so expensive is because 1 Hunters are allowed information and can enter location normal people can't access to. They are allowed to kill normal people and learn Nen(which okay a lot of non hunters know nen but eh). Also considering how Hunter's are the type of people who find rare ingredients, artifacts, jewels,bounties, animals, medicine, and other things certain people will pay a fortune for. And keep in mind 4 of the 10 richest people in that world are Hunters so its not like Hunters are in need of money
You're not grasping what I'm saying. The entire concept makes no sense, and even if we were to ignore real life rules, there's a whole lot of other stuff that makes no sense. Like how not many know about nen, which is total wank. That information would spill over in no time.

A private company that's allowed to kill people off to find the best talents who don't have to follow any rules after? Sounds pretty illogical to me. There is no guarantee they're going to look for valuables or do anything else important either. Keep in mind that they said that even the devil could pass.
How would the information be spilled over in no time keep in mind nen is pretty much invisible to non nen users and the ones who get it by getting the receiving end of an attack most likely will get crippled. For all non nen users know Nen must be magic or techniques they know its a special skill but they don't know the mechanics of it so to them its basically magic

Also its not like they kill them off but more along the lines of survival of the fittest, they aren't fit therefore they die add to the fact that anyone can volunteer to take the Hunter exam then they should know what they are getting into, personal responsibility dude. Its not really illogical but more amoral it does make sense in a way but its also apathetic also even if the people aren't going to look for valuables there are still countless Hunters who do such things so one person hunting other people won't make much of a difference.
Yeah, you're pulling my leg now. If you know how people function, anyone first discovering nen would probably want to make a mint of it. As you know, many learned it by themselves, and with the internet existing, it would be one of those things that couldn't be just wiped away.

Also, they are killing them off. They said that, and did it, which you know because they purposely trick them into death traps constantly. They could accidentally kill the greatest nen user of the universe. There is no need for this test at all, because you could discover peoples talents with normal challenges, and then expand from there.

I'm not repeating myself again.
 

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Just to be clear, I only watched the old anime version and aswell the ova but not the newer version.

Ot- Well yeah, if they can't passed/ survive the exam onslaught, what chances do they got when doing the REAL Hunter quest like that crimson ant thing (I know the new anime cover it but I only read bits on it on wiki)? I mean that is how those exam troupe usually work right like the Chunin exam in Naruto.


I do agreed that alot of minor/ decondat characters well killed off too soon especially when I thought he or she was starting to be cool but I assume that was the Mangaka intention to killed them off.
 

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If anything it's not thorough enough.

"Oh you're really good at fighting? Well that means you'll make a first class...botanist."
 

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If anything it's not thorough enough.

"Oh you're really good at fighting? Well that means you'll make a first class...botanist."
Well, to be fair, the world they are in is dangerous enough that being a first class botanist would require the survival skills of a martial arts master, what with all those man-eating plants and deadly forests that make the Fire Swamp from Princess Bride look like a peaceful plain...
 

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Just to be clear, I only watched the old anime version and aswell the ova but not the newer version.

Ot- Well yeah, if they can't passed/ survive the exam onslaught, what chances do they got when doing the REAL Hunter quest like that crimson ant thing (I know the new anime cover it but I only read bits on it on wiki)? I mean that is how those exam troupe usually work right like the Chunin exam in Naruto.

I do agreed that alot of minor/ decondat characters well killed off too soon especially when I thought he or she was starting to be cool but I assume that was the Mangaka intention to killed them off.
The main issue is that the crimson ant is not the "regular" hunter quest. Most hunters don't go above treasure hunting which, given that the world is incredibly dangerous, is a very demanding activity, but they rarely get involved in these kinds of extinction level threats.

The hunter exams, as you say, is a common trope of these kinds of anime, where they weed out a lot of secondary characters and cannon fodder to prove how "serious" they are. The main difference with the Chunin exams is that the Hunter Exams are harsher. For those unfamiliar with the anime, imagine if the Chunin exams were made before 99% of the people that took it knew about chacra or ninjitsu, and are hold in places with deadly traps, and the most likely way to fail is because you died, and of a group of hundreds, less than a handful of approvals is considered a very good generation.

I don't think the hunters association should be banned because of the people that dies during the exam. Most of them know how dangerous those trials are, how valuable the licences are, and are implicitly accepting the risk that they might die there. I think it is an tenuous organization because it is basically a guild of very strong mercenaries, not associated with any government but whose members have above the law authority in some matters, and with no moral compass or mission statement. They can as easily help rescue the president's daughter as they can orchestrate a coup of some country.

And yes, I think it makes little sense that Nen is as secret as it is. Even considering that a lot of people (even non-Hunters) eventually learn nen (you don't even need to be a good martial artist to develop nen powers), and those people would be less interested in "keeping the secret" as hunters are; but there is the fact that many nen powers are fairly prominent. There are nen users that can sever a person's head with their hands, can duplicate themselves, can fly or levitate stuff, can control animals or make people explode. And then there is a city the size of New York, where one of the most prominent buildings is a tower where people with these magical powers go to fight in televised competitions. People even bet on them as they see them use their powers. Rich people only hire bodyguards and help that have nen powers.

Many commoners would think of it as magic, fair enough, but that doesn't mean even the name would be so hidden that the protagonists (one of them member of a dynasty of renowned assassins with more money than Ali Baba, that have travel all over the world) would act surprised when they learn about it.
 

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Personally, yes, I think it does justify it. In order to be a Hunter, you need to be prepared for the dangers that come with the occupation, because the HxH universe is a dangerous place to live. It's a world where the mafia has considerable influence and yet, a small band of thieves and killers completely butchered them, the world that the characters live in is just a set of islands compared to how huge the world really is and any attempt to venture out into the Dark Continent has ended in complete failure. It's also filled with dangerous creatures, to the point that one invasive species managed to kill off a majority of one country's population while attempting to commit mass genocide in the millions in another country, just to build an army. Also the technological advances are so great to the point that something as destructive as the Miniature Rose can be mass produced easily and cheaply, makes the Cold War look like a water balloon fight.

So yeah, the Hunter Exam helps to prepare would be Hunters to the possible dangers they could face, but even if they do pass, they're still not recognised as a true Hunter or even allowed to take up specific jobs until they learn Nen.
 

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that world makes nooooo sense. You can tell Togashi just makes that shit up as he goes along. It's likely that he just develops an interest in some topic, reads up on it, and then incorporates it into is magical world where anything can happen.

This is a world where cell phones exist, but the first ship to take them to the mainland was an old fashioned sailing vessel.

It makes for a really interesting series, so long as you don't actually try to think about it.
 

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that world makes nooooo sense. You can tell Togashi just makes that shit up as he goes along. It's likely that he just develops an interest in some topic, reads up on it, and then incorporates it into is magical world where anything can happen.

This is a world where cell phones exist, but the first ship to take them to the mainland was an old fashioned sailing vessel.

It makes for a really interesting series, so long as you don't actually try to think about it.
Not really, if you rewatched the series you would know that, that was the first part of the exam and the reason why they used an old fashioned sailing vessel was because they need to weed out the applicants who get motion sickness
 

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PapaGreg096 said:
axlryder said:
that world makes nooooo sense. You can tell Togashi just makes that shit up as he goes along. It's likely that he just develops an interest in some topic, reads up on it, and then incorporates it into is magical world where anything can happen.

This is a world where cell phones exist, but the first ship to take them to the mainland was an old fashioned sailing vessel.

It makes for a really interesting series, so long as you don't actually try to think about it.
Not really, if you rewatched the series you would know that, that was the first part of the exam and the reason why they used an old fashioned sailing vessel was because they need to weed out the applicants who get motion sickness
I don't recall them actually stating that when I read it, but perhaps I just missed that bit of dialogue. Either way, there is a great deal of anachronism throughout the series (obviously you can excuse this with world building, but I'd argue that technology is implemented too distinctly and incrementally for it to feel like a cohesive world, even when accounting for different countries of various economic and cultural background). It has been 10 years since I read it, so maybe now is a good time to go back through it again.
 

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axlryder said:
that world makes nooooo sense. You can tell Togashi just makes that shit up as he goes along. It's likely that he just develops an interest in some topic, reads up on it, and then incorporates it into is magical world where anything can happen.

This is a world where cell phones exist, but the first ship to take them to the mainland was an old fashioned sailing vessel.

It makes for a really interesting series, so long as you don't actually try to think about it.
In Final Fantasy, there are things like airships, cars and motorcycles, guns, prosthetic limbs, guns for prosthetic limbs, mechs, and Magitek Armor. But most of the characters use swords and one of the main forms of travel is a big yellow chicken.