Having an enemy that is easy to hate helps to inspire the player to continue playing, plus it helps to remove controversy. People might not play the next WWII game if instead of killing Nazis one had to kill orphanages full of children. Although now that I said it, someone will no doubt say they would love to play a game like that.Imp Emissary said:Anyone else notice that there are a lot of racist enemies in games just recently? I think it's because we have fewer shooters in WW2 where we get to kill Nazis, so now the industry has to pump more "general" racists in other games. I don't mind getting to kill a few racists jerks in a game, but a few more Dragons or really cool looking Demons would be nice.....SmashLovesTitanQuest said:Calm down. I dont think this is an attack on america, its just an attempt to create that HURR RACISM HURR WUT IF AMURICA WAS LKE THIS BUY OUR GAME HURR atmosphere that guarantees sales.
You know what else guarantees sales OP? Controversy. If, for some reason, it was in fact their intent to get people revved up you better ignore them instead of giving them more publicity. I couldnt give a flying fuck either way, I thought the first one was overrated, the second one was lacking in the story department with tacked on multiplayer and I suspect this game wont turn out too different.
I have to agree there was plenty of racism, infact Woodrow Wilson who was president at the time of this game (or at lest close to it) was an overt racist.evilthecat said:Oh my god guys.. Did any of you see V for Vendetta? They totally misrepresented the UK! Our police have strict guidelines against brutality and yet in the film they totally went around mistreating people and putting black bags over their heads, and they implied that the government is racist! It's an insult, I say, an insult!
No, of course I'm not missing the point. It's totally offensive!
Are you fucking kidding me?Hammartroll said:I understand there was a eugenics movement in the United States some time in the 20s, but it's purpose was to breed out the crippled and mentally ill, basically burdens of the state, not promote a particular race; that was just the Nazies. So once again the game is wrongly portraying the US as racist.
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It's probably not very clear what that picture represents, but it's basically suggesting that looking like a black person is a sign of hereditary criminality.
Eugenics grew out of 19th century scientific racism and was explicitly anti-misegenation and racist. Try and find me a picture of a black or jewish kid holding his Fitter Families award.
So I can be cruel as hell if they are white? Japanese were not white and he listed some of those posters... So confused.Hammartroll said:SomeBritishDude said:snip
I wouldn't say close the the real thing, we were at war with these people and they happened to be foreign, we also portrayed the Nazies as ugly or demonic but they were white.
As long as the game portrays this as a corrupted version of the American belief system then it's alright, but I'm afraid they might make a modern day connection to imigration and just say that America is and always was evil.
There's enough hatred going on you know? No need to fan the flames with lies.
SmashLovesTitanQuest said:Calm down. I dont think this is an attack on america, its just an attempt to create that HURR RACISM HURR WUT IF AMURICA WAS LKE THIS BUY OUR GAME HURR atmosphere that guarantees sales.
You know what else guarantees sales OP? Controversy. If, for some reason, it was in fact their intent to get people revved up you better ignore them instead of giving them more publicity. I couldnt give a flying fuck either way, I thought the first one was overrated, the second one was lacking in the story department with tacked on multiplayer and I suspect this game wont turn out too different.
You do realise you just tried to justify racial biology? You have missed the entire point of eugencis: racial hygiene. That is the reason for sterilizing, imprisoning or even killing cripples, mentally ill, handicapped, addicts and those of inferior genetics, ie race.Hammartroll said:I understand there was a eugenics movement in the United States some time in the 20s, but it's purpose was to breed out the crippled and mentally ill, basically burdens of the state, not promote a particular race; that was just the Nazies. So once again the game is wrongly portraying the US as racist.
It's an obvious work of satire for fuck sake.Hammartroll said:-other ranting snipped-
I know the US has been involved in some questionable activities both today and through out history, but to miscontrue us as total bad guys and disregard the strides in equality and humanity America has made is just looking at things in black and white and if anything, it's a sign that the creators of this game are victims of anti-American propaganda themselves.
I may be wrong, but wasn't Woodrow the one who said Birth of a Nation was really good and really true? If so, yeah...very racist.Hammartroll said:I have to agree there was plenty of racism, infact Woodrow Wilson who was president at the time of this game (or at lest close to it) was an overt racist.evilthecat said:Oh my god guys.. Did any of you see V for Vendetta? They totally misrepresented the UK! Our police have strict guidelines against brutality and yet in the film they totally went around mistreating people and putting black bags over their heads, and they implied that the government is racist! It's an insult, I say, an insult!
No, of course I'm not missing the point. It's totally offensive!
Are you fucking kidding me?Hammartroll said:I understand there was a eugenics movement in the United States some time in the 20s, but it's purpose was to breed out the crippled and mentally ill, basically burdens of the state, not promote a particular race; that was just the Nazies. So once again the game is wrongly portraying the US as racist.
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It's probably not very clear what that picture represents, but it's basically suggesting that looking like a black person is a sign of hereditary criminality.
Eugenics grew out of 19th century scientific racism and was explicitly anti-misegenation and racist. Try and find me a picture of a black or jewish kid holding his Fitter Families award.
My annoyance with this is they're obviously trying to make connections with Nazi Germany just to push buttons, but they're demonizing America in the process. Racism or not the government still allowed any race into the nation and still do.
Also that pic you posted was more of a remnant from an old idea that facial features or brain structure could determine if your a criminal or not. It's more focused on the face structure rather than the skin color. They had similar theories about caucasian facial structure.