Does Elfin Lied get better? *no spoilers, please*

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thebobmaster said:
After hearing about it as a bit of a cult show, I decided to check out Elfin Lied. Honestly, I got a bit bored with it about 18 minutes into the first episode. It just really doesn't seem to have anything going plotwise. I mean, this girl breaks out of a place where she's apparently held prisoner, gets nearly killed, and turns up on a beach in front of a guy and his cousin, who take her in.

There just seems to be no connection to the plot points at all. I mean, she seems child-like when the two take her in, but the intro seems to show she's anything but innocent.

I suppose what I'm asking is, for anyone who has seen it, is this one of the shows that is actually really good later on, or is it just one of those shows that got popular for being "mature" and "adult"?

Edit: Also, I'm a pretty big anime fan, so nothing about the superpowers or anything like that is turning me off. I'm just finding it a bit dull and plotless.
1)manga is better

2) Just for the first episode you are complaining about the conection? -_-
 
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I should explain a bit better that it's not just that they aren't explaining stuff, but outside of the opening, the scenes are: Cousins talking, finding Nyu/Lucy, taking her in, stuff happening, someone talking, and that's 18 minutes in. I don't mind not having everything explained. But having, basically, 15 minutes of talking without really saying anything is a bit dull.
 

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I think I watched about half the episodes too and it just seemed... pointless? Things just sort of happened and then carry on as if they didn't.

I got bored of it and I don't care to see the other half.
 

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thebobmaster said:
After hearing about it as a bit of a cult show, I decided to check out Elfin Lied. Honestly, I got a bit bored with it about 18 minutes into the first episode. It just really doesn't seem to have anything going plotwise. I mean, this girl breaks out of a place where she's apparently held prisoner, gets nearly killed, and turns up on a beach in front of a guy and his cousin, who take her in.

There just seems to be no connection to the plot points at all. I mean, she seems child-like when the two take her in, but the intro seems to show she's anything but innocent.

I suppose what I'm asking is, for anyone who has seen it, is this one of the shows that is actually really good later on, or is it just one of those shows that got popular for being "mature" and "adult"?

Edit: Also, I'm a pretty big anime fan, so nothing about the superpowers or anything like that is turning me off. I'm just finding it a bit dull and plotless.
that shot to her head after she escapes causes amnesia more or less which is why she is childlike towards the end of the episode
and I don't know why people had a problem with the nudity - basically anything can be weaponized by those girls which only makes sense to keep anything that can be used away from them leaving nothing to hide

Nothing about the show seemed to really give the vibe of bad to me and while I like the show overall, there is just one part I don't want to look back on, but it's good for many reasons so try it all before you knock it.
 

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It's a decent show. Not a classic, but definitely worth a watch, though I will say it is overrated. Plot wise, it's lacking to say the least. It never really gets past, "These girls have superpowers, let's see how many ways they can kill you." Some of the later episodes attempt to add a plot, but to me, it was too little, too late. I've heard the manga is better, but I've not been bothered enough to download it.
 

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thebobmaster said:
I agree with most people here that you shouldn't judge any anime by it's first episode. My personal rule is give it three to four before deciding if you should continue or not. As for the show itself, with the exception of a few moments, it's not very good. It seems to try to shock more than anything else and in my opinion it doesn't even do a very good job at that.
 

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Kinda... first it get's worse... so... so much worse... and than it get's better... someone I was PMing actually asked me this too...

Yeah Elfen Lied is really weird... and I don't mean all of the gore, nudity and moe bullshit...

It has one really good character... that blurs the line between villian and hero, antaganist and protagonist... and the show, during some parts, does an amazing job of exploring this complex character relationship and underlying themes regarding human nature...

What it does better than any other show especially is really find and pull on that fine line between intellectually stimulating and emotionally compelling... some of the time...

but... and this is a big but... it's needlessly horrific, emotionally manipulative and a lot of the time offensively stupid... especially with the whole split personality moe thing... I mean if this show was cut down into like the best hour and a half of all 13 or 14 episodes, you'd have one hell of a movie... hell if the show didn't follow the Manga so closely and try to pander to the lowest common denominator 90% of the time, found some writers that didn't suffer from schizophrenia and embrace it's interesting character and themes it'd be good...

Than again it was made by a hentai animation studio... so you couldn't expect much... and you can see where they spent most of their budget... in the first 2 minutes, getting someone to copy some Gustav Klimt paintings and photoshop anime characters into it... still a cool opening though... kind of fitting for the 15% or so of the show that was good...<.<


Oh now what does that remind me of...


not that it's a bad thing... might as well rip off my favorite artist if you're gonna rip off anyone...<.<

It's something that I'd suggest watching until the end... despite the large amount of crap in the show, roughly 90% of it... there's still enough depth there to save it for some people... I mean when it really puts it's mind to it, it just does such a great job of intellectual and emotional depth... as well as style when it feels like it... though for the vast, vast, majority of the show it simply doesn't...
 

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Hisshiss said:
Casual Shinji said:
There's puppies in it, too.
That's cold man. Why you gotta bring up the puppies xD.

Edit: Also QFT for the rest of your comment lol.
God damn that fucking puppy. I'll be right back, I think there's something in my eye.
 

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The disparity between what happens in this show and the ending theme song is the best part of the show.

See, in every episode a bunch of horribly depressing stuff happens then the incredibly upbeat ending theme plays. This song is the Japanese equivalent of an Avril Lavigne song.

If the animation studio did that on purpose they are geniuses.
 

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I'm not a fan of Elfen Lied. I use to love it when I first saw it a few years ago, but as time went by it seems really dated and flawed to me. It's trying to tell a dark, adult, and mature storyline, but it's more childish if anything. The violence is so cartoonish and mindless that it takes all the seriousness out of it and cease to be disturbing. If anything it's on the same level as Bludgeoning Angel Dokuro-chan. Not to mention you have some bullshit ecchi/ harem moments that really grates on me, like the wimpy male lead somehow living in a house filled with women, or when he gets caught in an embarrassing position with another girl, etc. which seems very out of place in a show that's as supposedly "dark" as this. Other than that, the animation is terrible, there's a number of useless characters, some dialogue is a bit awkward, voice work in both English and Japanese isn't very good, and the writing gets pretty bad, too. Also, the ending to me just seems like blatant fanservice, and in context, makes no sense...
"Lucy, you killed my sister and father in cold blood right in front of me, and traumatized me for the rest of my life... I LOVE YOU!"
*smooch*
The manga is better, but it still has it flaws.

To me, it just seems like a really childish anime, instead of a show for "adults." But then again I don't hate the show, I just don't see it as an anime classic.
 

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The manga is much better than the anime, so I'd say read it instead of watch it. (Either way, it does in fact get better later on.)
 

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Well when I went into it I wasn't expecting the "Dark" aspect of it and it caught me completely off guard and probably did some scaring.If you know what the show is it is fairly good not amazing but it more of a "All the awful parts of humanity drawn to the extreme" and does dabble on some touchy subjects I personally thought it got pretty good.

(I didn't actually know what it was about I just saw it on a pals top 10 list and it was on Netflix so I said "Oh lets give this a try." before reading the description. Never making that mistake again.)
 

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evilneko said:
In a word, yes.

Yes it does.

Elfen Lied is one of the few animes I did not wait for a box set for.
Seconded,and stole the words from my mouth before I thought to think them together. Lucy is one the greatest characters that have ever been, near impossibly heart-wrenching, tragic and hopeful at the same time. Ignore the cousin and Nyu, though, they're just nuisances that take away from the emotional and psychological depth of the interaction between two characters--namely, Kota and Lucy.

But yes, it does get better. So much better. Yes, it would have been even better without the needless violence, the ridiculous pseudo-porn and the characters related to it, but beyond that the show is amazing.
 

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Seriously?
When did the first episode of anything at all ever explain everything?
That's the point of the rest of the episodes.
 

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Hisshiss said:
Casual Shinji said:
There's puppies in it, too.
That's cold man. Why you gotta bring up the puppies xD.
Oh come on, "that" scene is so overly evil it just becomes ridiculous.

"Oh look, it's still alive. Muhahahaha!"

Not that the show didn't have an impact on me, but it is basically emotional porn.
 

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thebobmaster said:
There just seems to be no connection to the plot points at all. I mean, she seems child-like when the two take her in, but the intro seems to show she's anything but innocent.
So, one of the things that bothers you is... it doesn't give away the plot and the twists in the first episode?
How do you usually watch shows? @[email protected]

The whole split personality thing was the main thing that sucked me in. First it's all BLOOD GUTS GORE ARRRGH which really isn't my thing, but then she's suddenly completely different and you want to know, what happened to her? Is she putting it on? What happens if they try to take her in and she's not the same girl they thought she was? Is she going to turn bad again?
 

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Sober Thal said:
If you don't like something right away, it's tough to get into it. That's understandable.

If you can't get into Elfin Lied right away... go do something else. Do yourself that favor.
Because everything is love at first sight or not at all -.-