Don't dismiss the Canadians

[hortez the champion of the frozen wastes]

I may be incredibly biased for Canadians as I am one, but stop me if you think this is a bad idea. A Fallout game, based before all the nukes were dropped, with the Canadian resistance!

Wait. Come back it gets better.

Now I was one of the first to call foul when I read about Americans annexing Canada. As a history buff I can tell you that this probably wouldn't happen, and if it did, no one would tolerate it, to the point of war against the US, possibly.

Also Americans often assume that their army would easily destroy the Canadian army within a week. However they thought the same thing back in 1812, and that resulted in the Washington parliament building burning to the ground.

Now I'm not the biggest Fallout fan so I may get a few comments like: "It wouldn't be in America, and the 50's drive-in ads are essential." Or, "the game-play would be so different you might as well call it something else."

But I agree with Yahtzee on the point that sequels should use the original as a jumping off point, instead of wallowing in what they know will work.

Comments? Arguments? Post away.

 

[Xpwn3ntial]

What would the point of a Fallout game before the nukes be?

EDIT:

The English burned down the Executive Mansion. We have no Parliament Building. We don't even have a Parliament in the manner most countries do. I wish we did, though.

 

[MagicMouse]

What would the point of a Fallout game before the nukes be?

This. ^^

Also, you Canadians just LOVE to bring up that 1812 thing don't you? I mean come on, it was ONE Government building. We destroy hundreds more buildings than you EACH YEAR.

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ON ACCIDENT!!!!

 

[NoDamnNames]

As long as beverage health items include Beer, Maple Syrup, or Moose Milk (only known beverages in Canada), and food health items include Canadian cheese, beaver tails, and poutine I would be down for it 100%

Oh and the most common Melee weapons would be Hockey and Lacrosse Sticks.

All the Americans are rushing to Wikipedia asking "What the hell is Lacrosse?" right now.

NATIONAL CANADIAN SPORT, READ A BOOK!

 

[CoverYourHead]

What would the point of a Fallout game before the nukes be?

This. ^^

Also, you Canadians just LOVE to bring up that 1812 thing don't you? I mean come on, it was ONE Government building. We destroy hundreds more buildings than you EACH YEAR.

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ON ACCIDENT!!!!

And it wasn't even Canada! It was England! It was before Canada was independent!

OT: I fail to see the point of a Fallout game before the bombs fell. That would just be, like, a World War III game. Why even call it Fallout?

 

[CoverYourHead]

As long as Beverages Health items included Beer, Maple Syrup, or Moose Milk (only known beverages in Canada), and Food health items Included Canadian Cheese, Beaver tails, and putine I would be down for it 100%

Oh and the most common Melee weapons would be Hockey and Lacrosse Sticks.

All the Americans are rushing to Wikipedia asking "What the hell is Lacrosse?" right now.

NATIONAL CANADIAN SPORT, READ A BOOK!

Lacrosse is actually pretty popular as a high school and college sport, we just don't have a national league.

 

[Iwata]

Now I was one of the first to call foul when I read about Americans annexing Canada. As a history buff I can tell you that this probably wouldn't happen, and if it did, no one would tolerate it, to the point of war against the US, possibly.

You guys are really nice, you know that?

You're saying that if the USA invaded Canada, you would not tolerate it, to the point of POSSIBLY going to war against the country that annexed you..?

See? Shit like this. This is why it's impossible to hate Canada.

 

[Redlin5_v1legacy]

Also, you Canadians just LOVE to bring up that 1812 thing don't you? I mean come on, it was ONE Government building.

Sounds like someone is crying about it:


OT: It would be nice but Fallout wouldn't work without the nukes. There seems to be this quiet, American developer conspiracy to make sure no major title is ever set in Canada.

Whatever, we still get Wolverine.

You're saying that if the USA invaded Canada, you would not tolerate it, to the point of POSSIBLY going to war against the country that annexed you..?

See? Shit like this. This is why it's impossible to hate Canada.

We might even consider using guns in this war should the people of our country feel it has escalated to the point where more powerful deterrents are needed to keep the Americans from crossing the border.

 

[Something Amyss]

As long as Beverages Health items included Beer, Maple Syrup, or Moose Milk (only known beverages in Canada), and Food health items Included Canadian Cheese, Beaver tails, and putine I would be down for it 100%

Oh and the most common Melee weapons would be Hockey and Lacrosse Sticks.

All the Americans are rushing to Wikipedia asking "What the hell is Lacrosse?" right now.

NATIONAL CANADIAN SPORT, READ A BOOK!

People don't know what Lacrosse is in America? Every school I've been in has had a team.

Then again, I'm from Vermont, we're like Canadia Lite, eh?

 

[Volstag9]

well, its original...

i mean well i just can't see it being a true fallout game. No vaults, no Nukes, no anything. Now a spinoff perhaps...

and about the 1812 thing, you guys had the british backing you guys up, we had no one! Also we kicked ass at the Battle of New Orleans, and Plattsburgh and Chippewa! (spelling ?)

 

[Argtee]

What would the point of a Fallout game before the nukes be?

I agree!

Really, a Fallout game taking place before the bombs fell wouldn't be fallout. It would be...something else.

Still, I'd like to see a Fallout game take place in Canada. I'm pretty sure in the Fallout universe, there is a place called "Ronto" in Canada.
I think that it's the the ruins of Toronto.

 

[Firoth]

Oh and the most common Melee weapons would be Hockey and Lacrosse Sticks.

All the Americans are rushing to Wikipedia asking "What the hell is Lacrosse?" right now.

NATIONAL CANADIAN SPORT, READ A BOOK!

Uh, actually lacrosse is a pretty well known sport in the US...And it was invented by the Native Americans...So...yeah.

OT: I agree with everyone else, what would the point of it be without the bombs?

 

[The Madman]

I can think of plenty of cool things which the Canadian's have done which would make for a fantastic game or scenario: the battle of Vimy Ridge for example would be fantastic.

That said I think this Fallout idea is a silly one. Half of what's fun about the Fallout series is that it takes place in that pseudo 50's America style setting despite, ya know, technically also having things like robots and lazers and such. Taking away that ironic 'hurrah america' vibe and it just wouldn't be Fallout!

 

[Zhukov]

Consider yourself dismissed.

 

[hortez the champion of the frozen wastes]

What would the point of a Fallout game before the nukes be?

But I agree with Yahtzee on the point that sequels should use the original as a jumping off point, instead of wallowing in what they know will work.

 

[x0ny]

All the Americans are rushing to Wikipedia asking "What the hell is Lacrosse?" right now.

Why wouldn't Americans know what Lacrosse is? The sport was played by Oz (Chris) Ostreicher in the first American Pie movie. I'm British, and that's where I first heard of Lacrosse, back in 1999.

 

[MagicMouse]

Whatever, we still get Wolverine.

Ya, but we get THE WOLVERINES!


Which is an Epic movie that is basically the game you want, only in America. So...HA!

 

[GRocci]

lol@Canadians taking credit for Britain's work before Canada even existed as a nation. But yeah, there wouldn't even be any fallout with the nukes so why call it Fallout, we could have a completely different game with that kind of setting though. Naturally too many people would claim it is insensitive or politically incorrect and both sides would be probably be switch to generic country A fighting generic country B

 

[Eclectic Dreck]

I may be incredibly biased for Canadians as I am one, but stop me if you think this is a bad idea. A Fallout game, based before all the nukes were dropped, with the Canadian resistance!

There was actually a fairly interesting mod for Fallout 3 that introduced a new version of Power Armor developed for the Canadian resistance. The associated quest to get the thing was actually pretty interesting. The armor was more than a little game breaking however.

Wait. Come back it gets better.

Now I was one of the first to call foul when I read about Americans annexing Canada. As a history buff I can tell you that this probably wouldn't happen, and if it did, no one would tolerate it, to the point of war against the US, possibly.

With what army precisely? They had plenty of time to resist (and there was resistance to be certain) but they did not actually try and stop the measure. Had they the power to maintain their own sovereignty they would have used it. Either they lacked the means or the will.

Also Americans often assume that their army would easily destroy the Canadian army within a week. However they thought the same thing back in 1812, and that resulted in the Washington parliament building burning to the ground.

The balance of power between our respective nations has shifted dramatically in the two centuries since the events of that last misadventure. Would Canada put up a fight? Sure. Would they win? Certainly not. For all the valor and skill and technology the nation possesses, they simply cannot put as much steel on target as the US can. Does that mean the US would "Win"? Not entirely. They may eventually leave if the cost of occupation becomes to great, but the result would almost certainly leave much of Canada in smoking ruin. And, in the Fallout universe, the opening cutscene tells us that the future US has no problems with summary execution in the streets if that's what it took to keep the peace.

Now I'm not the biggest Fallout fan so I may get a few comments like: "It wouldn't be in America, and the 50's drive-in ads are essential." Or, "the game-play would be so different you might as well call it something else."

But I agree with Yahtzee on the point that sequels should use the original as a jumping off point, instead of wallowing in what they know will work.

Comments? Arguments? Post away.

The game could be mechanically identical but what you are asking for is for a game with an entirely different tone. That retro-future US feel that permeates all of the games is a part of what has defined Fallout. Yes, you can obviously tell a different kind of story in a different kind of place in the fallout world, but would the result really be a fallout game? I tend to think not. That isn't to say that it wouldn't be a fun game of course, just that I think the change is far more dramatic than you may think.

 

[EinTheCorgi]

It would be interesting hell new even and i would like it though as an American I bet it wouldn't fly down here because most of us are so bloody brain washed into thinking that the U.S is the best country ever even though that's crap because all countrys suck in there own little way but im getting off topic so yeah I would like it.