Dr. Phil Yells At Woman For Her FarmVille Addiction

JWAN

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Zeroresistence said:
What the hell is farmville sounds annoying
its a facebook app for casual gamers.

people play it too much I deleted it after a few months, its WOW for stay at home moms
 

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JWAN said:
Gildan Bladeborn said:
Why the hell would anyone intentionally go about raising virtual crops for fun - what's next, Cubicle Drone-ville, where you shepherd your virtual office worker through the grind of the ole 9-5?

As much as I'd like to rag on Dr Phil, I really have to agree with him here. Even in the field of casual gaming it's bloody terrible, and anyone who goes about lying to their family so they can feed their 'farmville addiction' sounds like they might perhaps both the lamest and most boring person on the face of the earth. For shame!
Some people like playing the same mario/final fantasy/halo games over and over and over

whats the difference?
What, seriously? The difference is those games are actually games where you have fun. Farming is not a leisure activity, it's a vocation, so we're talking about somebody addicted to a 'game' that is simulating work, only they aren't being paid for it.

You can argue that people are capable of enjoying their vocations, but I will counter that by pointing out that video games simulating what the layman might see as "awesome" jobs still invariably leave out all the boring and tedious parts of it in favor of the empowerment fantasy. And when have you ever heard somebody describe farming as "awesome", hmm? What's that? Never you say? Thought as much.

The people who obsessively play one game over and over are weird and obsessed but at least they aren't working imaginary jobs for no money and also no fun.
 

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Gildan Bladeborn said:
JWAN said:
Gildan Bladeborn said:
Why the hell would anyone intentionally go about raising virtual crops for fun - what's next, Cubicle Drone-ville, where you shepherd your virtual office worker through the grind of the ole 9-5?

As much as I'd like to rag on Dr Phil, I really have to agree with him here. Even in the field of casual gaming it's bloody terrible, and anyone who goes about lying to their family so they can feed their 'farmville addiction' sounds like they might perhaps both the lamest and most boring person on the face of the earth. For shame!
Some people like playing the same mario/final fantasy/halo games over and over and over

whats the difference?
What, seriously? The difference is those games are actually games where you have fun. Farming is not a leisure activity, it's a vocation, so we're talking about somebody addicted to a 'game' that is simulating work, only they aren't being paid for it.

You can argue that people are capable of enjoying their vocations, but I will counter that by pointing out that video games simulating what the layman might see as "awesome" jobs still invariably leave out all the boring and tedious parts of it in favor of the empowerment fantasy. And when have you ever heard somebody describe farming as "awesome", hmm? What's that? Never you say? Thought as much.

The people who obsessively play one game over and over are weird and obsessed but at least they aren't working imaginary jobs for no money and also no fun.
go look up the definition of "game".
besides were not talking about a real farm here, do you think that in real life war is fun?
if moving pieces of rock around a board is considered a game farmville is a game
 

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Why the hate from Greg Tito? I don't like the show, but I haven't got anything particular against Dr. Phil. Maybe Mr. Tito feels this hit a bit close to home?

Facebook applications suck. They're designed to take as big a part of your day as possible, and make you care about the pixels on the screen. This is a video game magazine here, we all know the affection that can be felt for the characters we see in games... but that's because of strong characterization, dialogue, camerawork, voice acting, etc. which VIDEO GAME CROPS DON'T HAVE. They are a thing to do while you do other things, not something to waste your life on like this unstable housewife.

I've played a couple of Facebook games, and all told I wasted a week of my life before realizing how stupid and addicting the whole thing is. Same with World of Warcraft, but at least that game has story and characters (I hate it for other reasons). Try Harvest Moon, maybe. That's basically Farmville but actually fun and has all those good things I mentioned like characters and story plus an ending! You know, so you can go back to your life soon enough?

OT, I would say if she sits and waits for the crops rather than do it to relax like it was intended for, she needs to delete the application now.
 

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I tried farmville. Not that great. To be blunt it's boring, tedious, and to much bankruptcy. I wanted to make a cool farm, but instead you have to go with the wages given to all american farmers nowadays.

The only thing I'd ever do on there is arrange the properties to look like, from a bird's-eye view, a giant Nazi Swastika. Just to see if they'd let it ride. But it's to much effort. A game is just as hard as reality? Aren't games supposed to be an escape from reality?
 

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I would have to condemn Dr. Phil over the mother on this one. Yes, Farmville isn't exactly a great game and as gamers we are all appalled when it is associated with our past time. But if this same speech was given to someone with Farmville replaced with CoD or WoW, I'm sure the reaction would be universally negative at the Escapist.

And be honest, you never lied to your family/friends so that you could play a game instead of doing something social/productive?
 

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The Doc is very right in saying what he did.

ender214 said:
I would have to condemn Dr. Phil over the mother on this one. Yes, Farmville isn't exactly a great game and as gamers we are all appalled when it is associated with our past time. But if this same speech was given to someone with Farmville replaced with CoD or WoW, I'm sure the reaction would be universally negative at the Escapist.

And be honest, you never lied to your family/friends so that you could play a game instead of doing something social/productive?
It's the same beast. People need to get off their asses and away from video games once in a while, be it Farmville or CoD. And while I play games a couple of nights a week (I still haven't finished Fallout 3 after a month), no, I have never lied to anyone so I could do so.
 

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Hurry up and get on to those idiots addicted to The Sims Dr. Phil! I admit some of those Facebook applications can be fun, but seriously! Grow some real crops woman!

Going to watch that Farmville parody ad again, just because it's hilarious and true.
 

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Bloody Crimson said:
Aren't games supposed to be an escape from reality?
Not always.

I mean, what the hell is so disconcerting in my life that I play Silent Hill to escape from anyway? o_O

There are many other perfectly good reasons to play games besides escapism.
 

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I got a text the other day from my friend's girlfriend while they were at the movies asking me to log into her facebook account and harvest her crops.

not kidding.

not kidding.
gave me password and email and everything to plant some strawberries or something.

It was unbelievable.
 

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JWAN said:
go look up the definition of "game".
besides were not talking about a real farm here, do you think that in real life war is fun?
if moving pieces of rock around a board is considered a game farmville is a game
Is war fun in real life? Well yes and no - the parts of it we keep replicating in video games certainly can be, but there's that pesky risk of life and limb and ethical quandaries to consider. A game that accurately simulated life in the military though would be extremely boring, as The Onion hilariously depicted in one of their informative videos. Thus our video games only present us with the entertaining parts, with none of the potential psychological scarring or life threatening injuries.

I find it amusing that you refer to things like Checkers, Chess, Backgammon, Go, et all as "moving rocks around a board" in such a derogatory tone, as if Farmville even had a prayer of aspiring to their entertainment value. It doesn't.

I'm going to guess that you play Farmville (or used to) and have thus taken issue with me insinuating you are one of the most boring individuals on the face of this planet, as there's really no reason to be this defensive about it otherwise. Consequently, I don't actually care what you think on this subject (because you're wrong and lame) and will therefore cease arguing with you for fear that whatever made you a Farmville apologist is somehow contagious (and spread by internet arguments). You can't be too cautious!

Edit: A quick glance at the top of this page confirms I was entirely correct, and that I kick ass at determining underlying motivations from forum posts. Huzzah.
 

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Gildan Bladeborn said:
JWAN said:
go look up the definition of "game".
besides were not talking about a real farm here, do you think that in real life war is fun?
if moving pieces of rock around a board is considered a game farmville is a game
Is war fun in real life? Well yes and no - the parts of it we keep replicating in video games certainly can be, but there's that pesky risk of life and limb and ethical quandaries to consider. A game that accurately simulated life in the military though would be extremely boring, as The Onion hilariously depicted in one of their informative videos. Thus our video games only present us with the entertaining parts, with none of the potential psychological scarring or life threatening injuries.

I find it amusing that you refer to things like Checkers, Chess, Backgammon, Go, et all as "moving rocks around a board" in such a derogatory tone, as if Farmville even had a prayer of aspiring to their entertainment value. It doesn't.

Also I'm going to guess that you play Farmville and have thus taken issue with me insinuating you are one of the most boring individuals on the face of this planet, as there's really no reason to be this defensive about it otherwise. Consequently, I don't actually care what you think on this subject (because you're wrong and lame) and will therefore cease arguing with you for fear that whatever made you a Farmville apologist is somehow contagious (and spread by internet arguments). You can't be too cautious!
Is your real name Madonna?
Im not apologizing for anything Im just amazed that you think the whole gaming community falls into your opinion of a video game. Just because someone plays a game that you don't like does not mean that its not a game. Just because I don't play monopoly does not mean that it isn't fun for someone else. I play first person shooters but I accept that others don't like the games I play and I accept that I don't appreciate the stuff they play.

Im not defending the game Im defending peoples right to play what they want. Are you the child of Atkinson or something? Why are you trying to make this personal anyway? Is it because you feel you need to attack me because you cant pin a face on anyone else who plays? Whats your aim here? All Im saying is that opinions are fine but trying to tell someone whats fun and whats not is pretty much as close to fascist as you can get.
 

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We need Jeremy Kyle to address this issue before serious progress can be made.
Exactly, there isn't a single problem unsolved by shouting a fat unemployed person until they cry.

Dr. Phil just doesn't cut it compared to Jeremy. :p
 

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I wonder if people realize he is no was a licensed counselor, because he sucks. He screams at girls with eating disorders. That can cause them not only to relapse to the disorder but he might just kill them pulling that kind of crap
 

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Nitpicker of the Wastes said:
MR T3D said:
+1 RESPECT POINTS
Agreed.

Now, let's make sure he doesn't talk bad about games we actually like. :p
So it's alright for him to talk down at games YOU don't like, but once he starts judging fairly, suddenly lines have been crossed.

Anyways, I really do hate that everything has a few people who give it a bad rep. I'm sure not everyone who plays Halo online is a teabagging, curse-screaming cocknugget, but there's a bunch of people who spoil it for everyone. Not everyone who listens to rock sacrifices virgin chickens to appease their god, but the few who do ruin it. This is one of those people, and that's their own problem.
 

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Being a parent should be her number one priority. Dr. Phil is still a fake MD.
*Sigh*
Reality talk shows are the same advice repeated over and over again.