Indeed it was. I think I spoke to Krem once (other than in the scene with the Chargers). Great voice acting though!Burnouts3s3 said:
Dragon Age Inquistion players: How do you feel Bioware handled Dorian?s sexual orientation?
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I cottoned on to his sexuality long before his side quest, but was completely fine with it - It was most definitely better and far more tasteful than Anders in DA2. I didn't romance him in my single playthrough, but we were bros.
I loved his quips and sense of humour.
The thing I actually found annoying for all the romance options was having an option in the dialogue of "Start romance with X", but in hindsight that transparency sort of helps, albeit rather bluntly.
I loved his quips and sense of humour.
The thing I actually found annoying for all the romance options was having an option in the dialogue of "Start romance with X", but in hindsight that transparency sort of helps, albeit rather bluntly.
At one point I got so tired of her shit (and a bit miffed when it dawned on me that she doesn't dig the dong) that I stopped taking her seriously altogether. Any time there is dialogue with her I choose the snarkiest reply possible, or just outright hostility.StriderShinryu said:
Her replies to getting it dished right back out to her is pretty satisfying.
A number of people have mentioned that they felt it was "ham-fisted", or "forced", or something similar. I haven't played the game, so I don't know personally.
I'd like someone to tell me in a little more detail what they mean by this, though. Is it just "ham-fisted" because it's unambiguous? How is it more so than straight characters' interest in the opposite sex?
I'd like someone to tell me in a little more detail what they mean by this, though. Is it just "ham-fisted" because it's unambiguous? How is it more so than straight characters' interest in the opposite sex?
Advertised as gay? was he? because I don't think bioware are the ones who made a big deal out of it.
As for "you shouldn't write gay characters; you should write great characters who happen to be gay", it's nice to have a gay character who is just gay and no big deal is made of it. You don't need to have an excuse for a character to be something other than straight. Starting from the same mold and then just tweaking things to fill roles and move the plot is a poor way to make characters.
It is also fine to have character who is gay where that actually is a big part of their story and that effects other things. I know people in real life who have been kicked out home, attacked because of it, had authority figures try to screw them over, or who spent years hiding the fact that were gay because they knew it would cause issues and they could lose friends over it. It is still a big deal for many people. Why not have plot centred around struggles bought on by sexuality in a game?
Of course people will still consider it "forced", "ham-fisted" and "in their face" regardless of how it's presented. Hell you get that even when character isn't actually gay but just matches a few stereotypes though at least that is funny to watch.
As for "you shouldn't write gay characters; you should write great characters who happen to be gay", it's nice to have a gay character who is just gay and no big deal is made of it. You don't need to have an excuse for a character to be something other than straight. Starting from the same mold and then just tweaking things to fill roles and move the plot is a poor way to make characters.
It is also fine to have character who is gay where that actually is a big part of their story and that effects other things. I know people in real life who have been kicked out home, attacked because of it, had authority figures try to screw them over, or who spent years hiding the fact that were gay because they knew it would cause issues and they could lose friends over it. It is still a big deal for many people. Why not have plot centred around struggles bought on by sexuality in a game?
Of course people will still consider it "forced", "ham-fisted" and "in their face" regardless of how it's presented. Hell you get that even when character isn't actually gay but just matches a few stereotypes though at least that is funny to watch.
As a trans woman, the writing in that scene bugged the crap out of me. It's nice to see trans characters in games, without them just existing for something the player is meant to mock and laugh at, but as you said, the dialog was very heavy handed. What bugged me the most was using a cis female to play a trans charactersubskipper said:
Sad fact: I work with people with neuropsychiatric disorders, such as autism and ADHD, and Sera to me felt like all the worst aspects of those patients mixed with an unhealthy dose of "spoiled baby syndrome". There wasn't a single redeeming aspect to the character that I could find.StriderShinryu said:
To be fair, on the level of broadening representation I kind of like how she's explicitly meant to be working class, to the point of being explicitly vulgar, using slang and having a regional accent (even a really strange, toned down one) and I like how it's not played as a kind of malicious "chav baiting" thing.Gethsemani said:
..and yeah, that's about it. But that's something.
I got that aspect, I just found the idea of inserting a Guy Ritchie-style working class character, complete with (something approximating) British working class accent and idioms into a high fantasy world to be one that was really stupid all around. To me it only further drove me from the character. I suppose one can appreciate the attempt though. I can also appreciate the attempt to make her sort of a different take on Robin Hood. But those are both thematic ideas and don't have much bearing on how the character plays out in game.evilthecat said:
I don't mean to mention you expilicitly, I am talking to everyone in the thread, but your post seemed to be the least flamebaity so I ran with it.Gethsemani said:
To address the post I quoted: as unfortunate as it is, you will run in to people that represent all the worst aspects of a particular group. I have a feeling that Sera, as she was, was never meant to be *liked* by everyone.
I really don't think there is anything wrong with the character of Sera as she is. Is she trying on the patience of some people? Of course, and I think she is all the better for it, honestly. I want people to think of everyone they have every met. Honestly, how many of them are actually people you could stand to be around? I would argue that far more of them are people you'd consider completely intolerable then you might think.
So why should the party of a video game be any different? Of course you're going to run in to people you dislike IRL. It's a part of everyday life. So why should they disappear just because you happen to be in a video game? I really think that just adds to it. Some people will line right up with what you consider to be the "ideal person". Some won't.
You could argue that while not 'chav baiting' it is very much based in classism...evilthecat said:
Even if you ignore her vulgarity and two dimensional approach to class warfare, it's hard to ignore her childish behaviour.
You could alsoo argue that the one explicitly lesbian character being a complete fuckhead also says damning things about the game's creators.
Don't mind me, I'm just pissy that Scout Fielding doesn't have a resolved romance path...
Confession time. Although I think Sera is a fucking idiot her background is interesting to learn about.theSovietConnection said:
In some ways I think she's sort of like Ashley from Mass Effect and how many people didn't bother to dig into her background because "OMG! RACISM!" despite there being somme interesting stuff there.