Dutch Porn Star Awkwardly Uninvited From Modern Warfare 3 Launch Party

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mjc0961 said:
Yep, I knew keeping this would come in handy. To anyone from any country that's not America that wants to act like this kind of prude behavior is only exhibited by Americans:

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/113743-Duke-Nukem-Forever-Ad-Banned-in-the-U-K

Kindly remember that it's not only Americans, and keep your bigotry and ignorance to yourselves for once. ;)
nobody even mentioned americans, they just said activision were being dicks. unless activision has taken over america, then i don't think it is too much of an issue.

and as for ignorance, the ad wasn't banned in the uk, it was just banned before a certain time. so yeah, you pretty much shot yourself in the foot, reloaded, and pulled the trigger again there...

OT: i really disagree with what they did there. nobody would have paid attention to who they invited that much anyway, as clearly they didn't when they sent out the invitations. they just gave themselves bad publicity and made themselves out to be assholes.
 

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This is huge fail on behalf of Activision. First of all, did noone have half a brain to check which movies she starred in before inviting her?! Secondly, why do they have to bring their american hypocrisy over to the EU, and especially Holland which has porn commercials during normal television hours and no problem with it?

As pointed out, this is just chldish considering how other actresses that get to come along also did adult movies and appearances, and it's just disgusting how a person needs to be regarded as worth less because they work in that movie buisiness. Heck, I find porn boring, and would never stoop to doing erotic movies, but I still aknowledge it as an actual branch of movies.

And worst of all, they are keeping a modern warfare fan from getting to go to the big launch of a game she is looking forward to! Bad form Acti, bad form!

At least her response showed she is a more mature and intelligent than those dofuses ><
 

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Andy Chalk said:
"Murder is neat," she wrote, but "the love-makers [are] dirty."
I think this is the question alot of European countries have posed to America for years.
Gore, violence and swearing is okay, but when a boob is shown, that shit ain't gonna fly. 18 Rating!

...What.

Oh and the UK needs to cut that shit out and stop emulating the U.S. also. Australia you sit in the naughty corner too.
In Sweden (half my heritage and the wackier members of my family) the second 10 o'clock rolls around on alot of wholesome family channels? Bam. Porn time. And nudity is fine as well at any hour of the day.
 

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Backing the porn actress on this one.

Hmm, that sentence could use some work...
On work and the sex industry, do they worry Activision will look like dirty boys?
 

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I could understand Nintendo doing this, but Activision has demonstrated weakness rather than integrity; they're a bunch of damn kids trying to play grownup. It's like E.A's 'your mom will hate this game' all over again.
 

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I'd never heard of her before this. Way to shoot yourself in the foot, Activision. And then chopping off the foot, stuffing it in your mouth and choking on it. Classy stuff.
 

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Remember kids - Killing and butchering people is fine! Just don't fuck them!


Alternatively: Remember kids - Shooting at people is fine! Unless you do it with your penis!

Oh modern society. You are awkward and maladjusted as all shit.
 

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*shrugs* Their party, their rules, girlie. Being a porn actress, you'd think you'd be used to this sort of thing by now. I've been there too, "Yeah yeah you're a 'hooker' we're not comfortable with associating with 'your kind' at this business, party, family outing, whatever..." get it, got it, move on.

Seems that most commentors on here really aren't looking at themselves very objectively on this issue. Not everyone has the same priorities, and expecting them to hold your or my beliefs over their own makes you just as big an elitist and hypocrite as them. They don't want her there for being a hooker, fuck-up and let them say 'no'. You wouldn't want a Nazi at your shindig or a Klansman, in all likely hood, so respect their right to be equally exclusive.
 

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I know only the last part was directed at me, but I feel the need to respond to the whole post.

Monoochrom said:
So, how many Rape victims do you know that are paid? Stop being fucking ignorant.
This doesn't really make any sense at all, as you are implying that porn is rape. Which it is not in any shape or form.

Monoochrom said:
No, she doesn't really have a choice.
Yes, she does. Otherwise, it would be against her will which is illegal.

Monoochrom said:
The ''choice'' she has, is the same choice I have with work, sure I have a job, but I could always just call up my boss, tell him to go fuck himself and be rid of that job.
It's more along the lines of actors (hence porn actors/actress) rather than regular jobs. They can have an agent or be their own agent and find gigs that best suit them. They do certain fields depending on what they will/will not do. Much like acting, they can broaden they such by opening up more fields should they desire.

Monoochrom said:
I've actually worked with people in that industry, doing their Sites and what not.
And yet you think it's rape. I'm not sure if that's actually true, but from your first sentence it seems that you are implying that.

Monoochrom said:
No, they don't choose how they do it.
But they can. As mentioned before, they put all the info about who they are, what they do before they do the scene/film.

Monoochrom said:
Sure, she could say she doesn't like Anal for instance, but if she wants to have a job, she'll take it like a Champ when that's what the director wants.
Um, no. If she/he didn't want to do anal in the first place, it would be mentioned in their resume (or portfolio, I don't know exactly what they use). Also, if such an event where the person didn't want to do it, the director can rework the scene so the person doesn't have to do it. And even if the director doesn't want to do it, the person can leave and do another product. Like mentioned before, porn is a lot like acting in most regards, and if an actor/actress doesn't like the scene/film they can work around it or drop it. It all depends.

Monoochrom said:
Sure, she doesn't have to have sex with that japanese fellow, she also doesn't have to be payed. She can decline it, get no money and replaced in a matter of minutes.
Refer to answer above.

Monoochrom said:
But ofcourse she chooses when or where, right? Fuck no. It's a film, it is filmed like anything else, she doesn't call the shots on that either.
She can choose, as she has to be ok with it. If she is not ok with it, she won't do it.

Monoochrom said:
Now, whats wrong with Prostitution? Nothing in and of itself, but I wouldn't refer to it as a ''legit job'' as if it were the most normal thing in the world.
Well in technicality, it is the most "normal" job as it is just sex. Sex is pretty normal from what I understand.

Monoochrom said:
If it's so legit, what college courses do future porn queens have to take?
I assume the ones with free thinking, creativity and the ability to do what you desire. It's a passion and a career, much like any other career. If your hearts not in it, you won't go far.

Monoochrom said:
Porn and Prostitution are, no matter how much some would like to deny it, not necessarily the dream job of said people, but more along the lines of ''this is pretty much my only quality out of which I can make money''.
And here in lies the ignorance. Many who do porn don't do it out of money, but do it because they want to. Some actually made better money before they went into porn. Some, do it for financial crisis, forced into it or other terrible reasons. Yes, it's tragic but at the same time, it happens to a lot of people with almost any other job.

"Man, I don't want to clean toilets, but it's the only way to get money" or more terrible is "I have to join a gang to get some food and shelter" which is really awful.

Monoochrom said:
The main difference between a porn ''actress'' and a hooker, is a camera...and I doubt the hooker would say no to a camera.
Not even worth a response with this one.

Monoochrom said:
Still, nothing wrong with that, it is still anything but a respected profession.
Once the ignorance fades, it will be. It may take time, but it will be.

Monoochrom said:
@awsome117

You are fucking kidding me, right? Sure, more people rally behind games XD yeah, spend less time in a gaming forum where it's pretty obvious that will be the case. Take a look at reality, this medium is still pretty much universally considered to be for kids. It's a Toy, and it doesn't matter if this is CoD, all it takes are a few Nutjobs that leave out half the info to make a Porn Star being there another reason to protest those evil video games that target at children and try to lure them in with sex.
If anything, those nutjobs could do the same without the porn and the sex. Saying how CoD trains future soldiers, causes kids to go on killing sprees and what not. They can spin it to fit what ever story they could make up.

However, there are fewer nutjobs out there that actually take it seriously, and we have been moving towards the medium as "video games". Much like any other medium, it just takes time for them to settle in. (and for the old people who can't accept it to die[what it's true!])
 

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bit_crusherrr said:
Didn't Blizzard ban a porn star when they found out her WoW characters name? I don't get why they are seen as such bad people.
Yeah, Mia Rose. They later named a quest mob after her in Twilight Highlands where she says some suggestive things as you kill her.

Azhrarn-101 said:
Kotick probably noticed her name on the list and ordered her removed from the party, he wants to be the biggest cocksucker there. =P
Quoted so others can enjoy it.

Madara XIII said:
RedEyesBlackGamer said:
It would have been a non issue, but they brought it into the spotlight by making this move. Idiots.
Hehehe sounds like a Troll.

The best action to take is not to acknowledge the mistake or situation therefore isolating it and not giving it the goddamn spotlight.

It's like having a Criminal covering up a crime scene and then telling the police "Oh Btw pay no mind to the secret door underneath the shag carpet on the right!"
Difference: The murder was going to be investigated. The Amsterdam VIP list was not.
 

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Micalas said:
bit_crusherrr said:
Didn't Blizzard ban a porn star when they found out her WoW characters name? I don't get why they are seen as such bad people.
Yeah, Mia Rose. They later named a quest mob after her in Twilight Highlands where she says some suggestive things as you kill her.

Azhrarn-101 said:
Kotick probably noticed her name on the list and ordered her removed from the party, he wants to be the biggest cocksucker there. =P
Quoted so others can enjoy it.

Madara XIII said:
RedEyesBlackGamer said:
It would have been a non issue, but they brought it into the spotlight by making this move. Idiots.
Hehehe sounds like a Troll.

The best action to take is not to acknowledge the mistake or situation therefore isolating it and not giving it the goddamn spotlight.

It's like having a Criminal covering up a crime scene and then telling the police "Oh Btw pay no mind to the secret door underneath the shag carpet on the right!"
Difference: The murder was going to be investigated. The Amsterdam VIP list was not.
Point taken. I mean I just couldn't come up with a good analogy at the moment
 

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Because she was obviously going to come to the party dressed in super slutty clothes and start masturbating in front of everyone. You know, because that's what porn stars do right? It's not like they are normal people with normal lives outside of work or anything.
 

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Callate said:
It's an "M" rated game, Activision. Do you really think there's no audience overlap?
Implying that they don't expect every of their CoD instalments to be played by kids?

There's good controversy and bad controversy. Many parents wouldn't buy a game for their child if it had connections with "adult" content.
 

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Spot1990 said:
Vrach said:
Sylveria said:
I rather like her little quote at the end there. But, really, Activision, you're just showing how infantile you are. You make an M-rated game, there should be no problem with am "M-rated" actress being there.
M rating = 17+
Porn rating = 18/21+
Try again.
Ok. It was a European event. We don't go by ESRB over here, we go by PEGI, which gives MW3 an 18.

PEGI 18 = 18+
Porn rating = 18+
Again, this was in Europe so the game's rating in America shouldn't matter.
Good point, but it's still an American company and that launch is a PR event for them. PR gained doesn't confine itself to one country or continent, it's worldwide. Also, not all of Europe uses PEGI, in some countries you can get an M rated game at 16 or 17.

But more importantly, see the rest of my post. That kind of PR, even among adults, is not really welcome. And considering this event is about just that, ActiVision certainly made the right business decision.

Now if you'd like, we can discuss the social viewpoint on porn, people in the porn industry and similar issues, but they are beside the point for this matter. The fact is, a large majority of people, including those who watch porn, don't look upon people in the porn industry favourably or with respect.
 

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Eh I don't see activision as being wrong here.

She's probably lying about enjoying the games anyway. Or she just wants to start one of those porn-gamer sites.

Making a living on your back doesn't entitle you to be on the list to get into an exclusive launch party @_@
 

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ElPatron said:
Implying that they don't expect every of their CoD instalments to be played by kids?

There's good controversy and bad controversy. Many parents wouldn't buy a game for their child if it had connections with "adult" content.
I would think it would be more embarrassing to have it recognized that they were aiming a "Mature" rated game at children than that they had a woman who worked in adult films at a party, but that's me.

In the grand scheme of things, I think it will make very little difference to Activision one way or another. The controversy generated by "dis-inviting" Ms. Holland is probably no worse than they would have received from inviting her, so long as they didn't go out of the way to highlight her presence. It's not like she was invited there to perform sex acts under the drinks table. The kind of parents who casually buy their kids "Call of Duty" games are probably not the kind of parents who peruse games news sites to read about the guests who are invited to launch parties. (Launch parties in Amsterdam, no less.)

Barring something unseen, though, I doubt anyone will be talking about this in a week.