E3 2010: Star Wars: The Force Unleashed II

Celtic_Kerr

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My1stLuvJak said:
What!? He steals Vader's TIE?!? Oh, HELLS no, Vader won't like that!

"I have you no...wait a sec. Where's my TIE? Oh, that is IT!!"

The trailer underwhelmed me, (the first one for PSN) as the voice actors seem a little off - Yoda doesn't sound right at ALL, aside from messing with his sentence structure. I don't much care for messing around with Star Wars' storyline, but this game actually does sound pretty cool.
Haha!

"Sideous Dear! I'm going to work! Have you seen my TIE?"
"It's in the hangar where you left it"
"No it's... That... Bastard! Shit's getting real!"

I don't know, I like in the last game how there would be no rebellion if not for starkiller, and therefore, vader's orders. Was such a hilarious moment to laugh at vader and say "You started this shit! Now you have to clean it up!"
 

mayney93

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if he's a clone that would mean u can clone jedi / sith yes? so why do they bother with clone troopers? surually a army of sith baddass is more of a adversary.
 

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VanityGirl said:
Rambling Gentleman said:
It's a tad of a cop out, but when you think about the existing cannon and universe it does make sense. I mean they cloned Jango Fett so why not Starkiller?

True, but it's just odd because how could the clone so quickly learn Force powers and everything? And how could Starkiller not feel a connection to his clone via the force? I'm probably looking too much into it, but I feel like others would have similar questions.
Doesn't it seem kind of odd to you as well?
well we all know Starkiller was strong in the force as just a child, so maybe when they cloned him, the clone was also strong in the force as well, although im pretty sure a tutorial will happen showing how he masters them so quickly...im gunna miss Proxy =(
 

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...Bleh.

I pretty much lost interest to TFU even before the first game had been released. Games that focus around battles and killing enemies should make it satisfying for the player to defeat an opponent. In TFU you could apparently plow your way through fifty enemies by just the pushing of a few buttons. The trailers have given me bad impressions aswell on what the developers intend. The enemies are apparently meant to be... nothing more then idiotic. For example in this most recent trailer, shouldn't all those Storm Troopers be trained in like... -taking cover-?! Despite being equipped with deadly ranged weapons, lets all just try to hug him while not even trying to shoot, making it all the more easier for him to do a devastating AOE (Area Of Effect) spell! No wonder why Vader tends to kill his colleauges... I'd do it too if they were that incompetent!

A game that can have the player's enemies to be deadly and dangerous while still making it possible for him/her to pull through using creative thinking has succeeded in making a solid gameplay if you ask me. In TFU however it seems to be all about blowing things up and overwhelming your opponents using Force powers with great ease and without any sort of challenge. What this does in my opinion is that it removes all the tension not only from the gameplay, but from the story aswell. Since the protagonist is apparently invincible.

It all feels like they try to seduce us with epic special effects, with the players fighting armies of robots and Rancors the size of the Empire State Building. The problem with this is that when you put in massive sceneries and encounters constantly the "epicness" is lost. It just becomes a new norm.

*TFU SPOILER ALERT!*

Also, I question the effort put into making a compelling story. Since the developers didn't feel like letting the main character remain dead and introduce a new protagonist, they have him resurrected! How... Original. Why should I be concerned about the characters' saftey when they nearly always return from the dead?

*TFU SPOILER OVER!*

I'd preffer if they made gameplay that focused more around lightsaber fighting, with Force powers as secondary or supporting abilities. That certainly has potential for an entertaining game! Where a blaster shot to your stomach could be lethal, if not delivering a killing blow.

Also, why do the players have to be demigods? It would provide with interesting variation if you needed to utilize stealth, sabotage and subtle navigation to survive. In TFU the developers' logic seem to be based on that since someone is a Force user, he is a god. Why did Vader bother hunting down his son when Starkiller could obliterate armies without breaking a sweat?

Perhaps I should make it clear that I have not played TFU, but this is nonetheless the impression I got from their illustration.
 

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VanityGirl said:
Rambling Gentleman said:
This guy is a clone, hence why you start on Kamino
Well that sounds completely stupid. And that stupid comment is not about you, it's about the idea of him being cloned is just... so... dumb. Is that really a fact? Because that will bother me for the rest of the game.
I think it is, in the trailer it shows Darth Vader with a whole bunch of clones. (Clones of Starkiller, that is)


So yeah. You are probably a clone.
 

Archemetis

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No mention of how the endings from the previous games would affect this one?

No playing as a Sithstalker from the start?


From the looks of the screenshot the development team just assumed we'd all pick the good option and made the game to suit that ridiculous presumption?

Yeah, I'm not impressed. Unless I'm wrong and it DOES affect how the game plays...
but until that happens I reserve full rights to be unimpressed.
VanityGirl said:
Rambling Gentleman said:
It's a tad of a cop out, but when you think about the existing cannon and universe it does make sense. I mean they cloned Jango Fett so why not Starkiller?

True, but it's just odd because how could the clone so quickly learn Force powers and everything? And how could Starkiller not feel a connection to his clone via the force? I'm probably looking too much into it, but I feel like others would have similar questions.
Doesn't it seem kind of odd to you as well?
Also, they'd need some stupid reason why you're starting again with none of the upgrades from the first game, this covers it nicely.
Depending on when they cloned him though I'd call to question how he still hates Vader...
 

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Can you really "decapitate" this time? I hope so, Im tired of a freaking lightsaber being as powerful as a wiffle bat against limbs. I mean seriously it should take one solid hit to kill something with a lightsaber, not a "combo".
 

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Kalezian said:
VanityGirl said:
Rambling Gentleman said:
It's a tad of a cop out, but when you think about the existing cannon and universe it does make sense. I mean they cloned Jango Fett so why not Starkiller?

True, but it's just odd because how could the clone so quickly learn Force powers and everything? And how could Starkiller not feel a connection to his clone via the force? I'm probably looking too much into it, but I feel like others would have similar questions.
Doesn't it seem kind of odd to you as well?

sigh, forgive me for my Star Wars nerd explosion that is about to happen.


Remeber when Vader killed Obi-Wan in episode IV? how his body disappeared? Turns out that a Jedi can become so intuned with the force that upon death can resist becoming ONE with the force and re-appear as the force ghost. now, you can stretch from this that Starkiller's "force imprint" or whatever, was so strong that his clone was able to pick up on the same exact "imprint", thus, Starkiller v2.0 and so on if those other clones we saw were indeed more Starkillers, but if that is the case then they too would pick up on his imprint and be the exact same as the original -OR- for some reason the developers will not think too far into it and for some unexplained reason they will be the bastards that annoy you at the end of every level.


now if you excuse me I need to go hit on some girls before my weregeek overcomes me.
Weregeek? Don't hide from it, embrace it! Wear your heart on your sleeve...

...

... just try not to get blood on everything, okay?

Seriously though I think we're all forgetting the obvious problem here - people survive a hit from a lightsabre. Not ever Vador was sabre-proof, that's why he lost his hand to Luke. People can say "Oh they're Jedi" all they want but that doesn't actually excuse anything. Cortosis is about the only excuse for anything being sabre-proof and even then it works differently depending on whose interpretation you're using (in Jedi Outcast it's just resistant, in the comics it causes feedback and busts the sabre, etc). Stormtroopers go from elites to mooks in the first film, I think we can just let them die after one hit like they're supposed to.

EDIT: Yeah, yeah I know, game balance...
 

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Ok, so Vader is alive, and everything is in tune with the galaxy a la A New Hope?

I see. I was wondering how Starkiller in his unaltered human form could be back from the dead...but I guess if he's a clone...

I did quite enjoy the DLC they produced from Force Unleashed 1, where you controlled a remade, evil Starkiller hunting down Luke etc...maybe they should have just carried on from there? But then I guess they thought people would want a character they could relate too...and it is kind of hard to relate to an armour clad half robot sith...
 

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VanityGirl said:
Rambling Gentleman said:
This guy is a clone, hence why you start on Kamino
Well that sounds completely stupid. And that stupid comment is not about you, it's about the idea of him being cloned is just... so... dumb. Is that really a fact? Because that will bother me for the rest of the game.
Well, I know the Star Wars Extended Universe has used clones to bring everybody from Darth Maul to Darth Sideous to create a bad guy.
 

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I hope they fixed the seriously broken gameplay mechanics and AI. How they ever managed to make smashing TIE fighters with the Force tedious and frustrating and NOT FUN is beyond me.
 

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Not G. Ivingname said:
VanityGirl said:
Rambling Gentleman said:
This guy is a clone, hence why you start on Kamino
Well that sounds completely stupid. And that stupid comment is not about you, it's about the idea of him being cloned is just... so... dumb. Is that really a fact? Because that will bother me for the rest of the game.
Well, I know the Star Wars Extended Universe has used clones to bring everybody from Darth Maul to Darth Sideous to create a bad guy.
Ita odd because i read somewhere you cannot clone a jedi though i can't remember where...
 

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Archemetis said:
Also, they'd need some stupid reason why you're starting again with none of the upgrades from the first game, this covers it nicely.
Depending on when they cloned him though I'd call to question how he still hates Vader...
That would make sense, but it would have been equally great if Starkiller wouldn't have died, but perhaps sustained a blow to the head that wouldn't allow him to remember how to use all of his force powers right away.

I just don't like the cloning thing. It'll be odd unless they write the story VERY VERY VERY well.
 

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VanityGirl said:
Archemetis said:
Also, they'd need some stupid reason why you're starting again with none of the upgrades from the first game, this covers it nicely.
Depending on when they cloned him though I'd call to question how he still hates Vader...
That would make sense, but it would have been equally great if Starkiller wouldn't have died, but perhaps sustained a blow to the head that wouldn't allow him to remember how to use all of his force powers right away.

I just don't like the cloning thing. It'll be odd unless they write the story VERY VERY VERY well.
I personally would have preferred to play as the Sithstalker that you become from the previous game for one of the endings (I forget which one) That would be a game I'd play.
 

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Ooooooo. Interesting. Although, this makes no sense with how the first ended. I mean think about it, the ending pretty much stopped the sequel from existing, yet here it is.

Allow me to explain, you play as a clone
 

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AVATAR_RAGE said:
VanityGirl said:
Ooooooo. Interesting. Although, this makes no sense with how the first ended. I mean think about it, the ending pretty much stopped the sequel from existing, yet here it is.

Allow me to explain, you play as a clone
Allow me to explain, it's been explained. :p I'm just pickin at you.
I'll say it again, it makes sense, and yet it doesn't. You can't clone force powers.

If done well the cloning couldish make sense, if done poorly.... well the game will suck.