E3: Play as Nathan Drake, Big Daddy in PlayStation All Stars

[Evil Smurf]

Snake's becoming quite the little fighting game whore isn't he? Next thing you know he's gonna be in Soul Calibur VI, or Marvel Vs Capcom 4, for some reason.

He wasnt added by the developers, he snuck himself into the game.

probably in a box

 

[ThatLankyBastard]

All right Microsoft! Get in on this! I wanna see Blinx the Time Cat getting chainsawed by Marcus Pheonix, who is then torn apart by a L4D witch. Who is then shot by Solid Snake, just to complete the set.

Reminds me of a dream I had...

OP: Wait a minute... Playstation All Stars??? Wasn't Bioshock an Xbox exclusive until well after it's release?

Or another way of putting it: "DAMNIT MICROSOFT!!! Why didn't you do this first??? I wanna be a fuckin' Big Daddy!!!!"

*sigh* Well It's finally happened... A Playstation exclusive that I cannot deny is an amazing idea and wanting... really, REALLY badly...

This might just be the ticket that buys me a PS3 or a Vita...

 

[Baron von Blitztank]

I'll only show real interest if Sir Daniel Fortesque gets confirmed...

 

[BrotherRool]

It would probably not get the hate mail if it weren't a blatant attempt to cash in on the Wii's success (again), but as the previous few years of E3 have shown, Sony has absolutely no interest in being original.

Okay let's bring this back to actually saying something, rather than spouting silly hyperbole on both sides. All you're saying here is 'I don't like Sony' instead of providing reasons for your opinions.

So I counter your 'Sony has absolutely no interest in being original' with Sony has supported the creation of a game where you play a character growing and evolving over 15 years, played by Ellen Page
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/117638-E3-Sony-Unveils-Ellen-Page-in-Beyond

What's more they paid for and spent extensive marketing money on a cutscene based, story game where you follow the adventures of 4 characters chasing a serial killer with no restarts that was so different from anything else that people aren't even completely sure if it counts as a game in the normal sense.

Or they sought exclusivity on a game where you play the dream of a flower

Or they created a game where you can make absolutely anything in existence, more creative and original than anything ever to come out. And when people didn't buy it, they slashed the prices and continued promoting it, because they knew it had potential
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuCFvRW6sSo

For that matter, describe me one game that plays like their flagship franchise, Uncharted. (there is precisely one other game, Enslaved, which copied Uncharted and from the looks of it Tomb Raider is going down that route too)

On the technical side, how about allowing Steam to run on consoles? Or creating cross-platform games?

Pioneering console MMOs,
Creating a game where you play as a photographer taking after animals.
Making a card game where you scan the cards in with a Playstation Eye
Follow that up with a game that's like ICO, Shadow of the Colossus



Now I'm not saying that Sony is a particularly original company, just that they have and will shown interest in some stunningly original things and games, if you would like to reformulate you position and come up with a consistent standpoint I'm happy to talk about that and we can decide how original Sony are as a company in a meaningful way.


EDIT:
I mean check this out
http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2012/06/creating-the-beautiful-mystery-of-the-unfinished-swan/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+arstechnica%2Findex+%28Ars+Technica+-+All+content%29
How is this not Sony taking an interest in innovation?

All this amazing stuff (and check out the Last of Us gameplay footage) is not cancelled out by Sony making their own version of a game type that's only really had one successful franchise ever. Put that in context, when we have CoD, Medal of Honour, Battlefield, Homefront you want to call Sony out as not seeking innovation for making a type of game that Microsoft, Activision, THQ, EA etc have never tried to make? Yeah it's not innovative, but SSMB is a brilliantly fun type of game that has only ever come out on Nintendo consoles, isn't it about time someone actually though that maybe other people would want to play a similar game too?

I mean it's already been established that even the gameplay is much more Dissidia style than Smash Bros. It's not innovative, but it's not unoriginal either, it's just an untapped genre that it looks like they're going into for the own thing. It would be unoriginal if the skill sets layout etc was just copied from Super Smash Bro's. Instead they're going into it with a 'we want to make a SSB type game, how are we going to design it?'

 

[Hattingston]

As much as this is good news to me (especially the big daddy)...
ADD JAK AND DAXTER DAMMIT
*whew*, sorry I'm good.
Jak seems BUILT for this game, considering his abilities.

 

[BrotherRool]

As much as this is good news to me (especially the big daddy)...
ADD JAK AND DAXTER DAMMIT
*whew*, sorry I'm good.
Jak seems BUILT for this game, considering his abilities.

Has Ratchett and Clank been announced yet either?

 

[Grey Day for Elcia]

Snake's becoming quite the little fighting game whore isn't he? Next thing you know he's gonna be in Soul Calibur VI, or Marvel Vs Capcom 4, for some reason.

He wasnt added by the developers, he snuck himself into the game.

probably in a box

Rofl. Best comment of the week.

OT: Yeah, 'cause copying Nintendo works well for you, Sony.

OH WAIT

 

[therandombear]

All right Microsoft! Get in on this! I wanna see Blinx the Time Cat getting chainsawed by Marcus Pheonix, who is then torn apart by a L4D witch. Who is then shot by Solid Snake, just to complete the set.

Reminds me of a dream I had...

OP: Wait a minute... Playstation All Stars??? Wasn't Bioshock an Xbox exclusive until well after it's release?

Ye, I remember when Bioshock was an "exclusive" my friends, who all had PS3s called it the shittiest game they had ever seen...and as soon as Bioshock was ported to the PS3, their opinions changed as well. Weird that.

OT: Looks cool, but can't really say I'm all that interested in it. Depends on how it ends up being, really.

 

[Emiscary]

So, is "Smash Bros Clone" gonna become a subgenre of game now? I kind of figured it was coming when they started shoehorning cameos into the Soul Calibur games, but it looks like things are in full swing now.

Huzzah.

 

[ace_of_something]

If not an M+ game I'd probably buy it. Can always use more games that are actually fun to play with the kids.

 

[antipunt]

While this does look like a blatant copy of SSB it still looks awesome. Too bad I just have an xbox.

I just have a PC! And the newest console I have is a GAMECUBE for crying out loud!

How do you think I feel!

Haha! HILARIOUS comment, because it's so true..and...h..haha....h....a..

My predicament as well T_T

 

[subtlefuge]

Too bad this looks so incredibly not awesome. Take a bunch of realistic characters and throw them into a cartoon violence fighting game=value bin thinking.

Even Sony's better than this. Brawl had some of the same problems, if you're going to copy a Smash game, why not Melee?

 

[SilverBullets000]

There are other designs it could have chosen but the devs got somewhat lazy and went for the SSB model. I'm not angry so much as disappointed that they didn't try to differentiate themselves and gamble a little bit. Nintendo really stuck their neck out with the Wii and other such things, and their gambles paid off BIGTIME for once. Here we see Sony playing it safe instead of getting crazy and creative with it, which isn't bad necessarily....it's just less than what they deserve.

But I suppose if "Book of Spells" was meant to be Sony trying to be creative....*shudder* then I guess I understand why they might be fond of copying other people's stuff instead.

I agree with the "Book of Spells," comment holeheartedly.
As for not trying to differentiate from Smash Brothers and lacking that crazy wacky creativitity, what would you have rathered them do with it? I'm not going to say that there isn't any way that they can improve it, but Super Smash Brothers has a really well implemented (though a bit cluster-fuckish) combat system already. Besides, it does look as if they change quite a few features via life bars and stages that mash-up. So you can't say they aren't trying to put their own spin on it.

Nope. If they're copying a game, it might as well be a game we could use more of. I mean, let's face it, what other cross-platform fighting games are there other than Smash Brothers?

Well there's Mortal Kombat, Street Fighter, Marvel vs Capcom, a number of DBZ fighters....

I mean let's be realistic here, there's any number of styles they could have chosen to copy from. The fact that they once again opted to copy Nintendo is sort of hard to ignore.

And then they'd have yet another fighting game, just as a crossover. You've got your lens a little too focused on the fact that they're copying Nintendo here. Yes, it's blantant, but that doesn't mean it won't work or be any different.

No, Capcom vs Whoever was on the list this week doesn't count because they're different kinds of cross-platform fighting games.

That's sort of the point: why copy your competition directly if you could try to mix it up a little and be unique? There's a lot of cool styles they could have gone for that would have made their game more unique and possibly way more fun. They'd get a lot less hate for being SSB....if they weren't SSB. Just sayin'.

You're right here, in a way. However, the only other way I could have seen them do this is to copy SoulCalibur, Tekken, Virtua Fighter, Mortal Kombat, Street Fighter, and all the other fighting games that already exist. We don't bat an eye at them because that kind of fighting has been tweaked and redone so many times that we don't care which is copying which, as long as it's fun. That's why I'm not so angry about them blatantly ripping off Nintendo: I like the Nintendo game too.
Even then, you act as if it's a 100% wholesale rip off. There are bound to be minor differences here and there, cast not withstanding. My advice is to at least wait until the game comes out and you've seen some actual gameplay before jumping on the SSB hate wagon.

Also, it'll be cool to see how they treat the mechanics and characters.

Demo seems to play a lot like Brawl, except with the Smash Ball mechanic reduced to a simple "build up damage and deal out damage to get more power" sort of thing.

True, true.

 

[SilverBullets000]

I shall settle on this

Is it so horrible that its not original?

Nope. If they're copying a game, it might as well be a game we could use more of. I mean, let's face it, what other cross-platform fighting games are there other than Smash Brothers? No, Capcom vs Whoever was on the list this week doesn't count because they're different kinds of cross-platform fighting games. Also, it'll be cool to see how they treat the mechanics and characters.

Just hope it doesn't suck. That, and that they still let Nintendo borrow some characters for their titles, too. Maybe even borrow Nintendo characters later...

Still rather Smash Brothers, but will definetly give this a look.

Imagine: Super Smash Bros v. Playstation All Stars (providing the latter turns out as great as the former) ... I would buy that cross-over in a second!

All the craziness of the fanboys/fangirls united into one big spending power over one game. I don't think Nintendo or Sony would have enough space to put all the money they'd make off of that venture.
...assuming All Stars is as good, I mean.

 

[Quiet Stranger]

Just PLEASE take out Fat Princess and put a more deserving character in and I WILL buy it day one.