EA Admits Poor Medal of Honor: Warfighter Sales

blackrave

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NO! Really?
But people like sequels.
Also people like gray, dull military porn.
And we can surely agree that everyone likes non-existent single player campaign.
And Linkin Park, especially their newest albums, are loved by millions.
This makes no sense. MoH should have been sold better than TES5:Skyrim
I don't even know what went wrong here [/sarcasm]
 

Yokillernick

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I love how EA just came out to tell us that we were so taken aback by this game's awesomeness that we misinterpreted our own opinions calling the game shit and all. But I am actually happy this has failed. Maybe now we can leave this grayish/brown military shooters and go back to something more fun and inventive. While I'm fantasising about this I also hope that CoD flops so that's another dull franchise multiplayer online killed. In fact if they want to make CoD multiplayer, then why don't they drop the campaign wolesale and have it released as a browser/mmo subscription shooter, like Combat Arms, even thought that's free.
 

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It sucked because they're bad publishers.

IF they'd just given the development team a reasonable budget and a relatively generous timescale, I'm sure it would have been a better game. But to be blunt nobody I know's even cared for another MoH. I can't speak for everybody now but I'm pretty damn sure there's a growing consensus which says "we're sick to death of Modern Military Shooters". Even CoD's moved away from it. The only people who I would say aren't sick of them are the kind of people who buy sports games on pre-order every single year.

From what I've seen of MoH:WF, it's buggy, railroaded to hell and back, and about as generic as you can possibly make a MMS.

Why won't Publishers just realise that they can't make every game cater for every single gamer out there? Make a game for a specific demographic, so it will be fucking epic and sell like hotcakes for its fans, people WITH an interest and their friends and friends' friends; rather than some watered down crap that attempts to appeal to every sod with a general interest in gaming.

Point and case Bethesda, Valve and Creative Assembly. These all do it right and none of them are at risk of losing business. Hell, I think all of them are on the up. Valve's still growing by keeping their ip's to how fans expect and running their games store and DRM in an appealing way, Bethesda just made a killing by placing faith in a new singleplayer IP, and Creative Assembly's got its biggest budget ever for Rome 2. Hell, Obsidian just nailed it on kickstarter by promising to keep their next IP strongly within the borders of a classic genre. Because of that they've now cut out any need for middlemen such as EA - not by advertising broader appeal, but by advertising the opposite.

If EA thinks rapid releases, broader appeal, MMS' and multiplayer are the only ways to sell a game successfully, they'll be liquidated or bought [partially] out by the end of the decade. Hell, if they don't change their ways within the next year I'll put money on it in Ladbrokes or Betfred.
 

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So how's the multiplayer?
That's what people will be buying it for.
 

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The people at the top of EA who make the decisions on what games to make/fund are usually suits with business degrees who don't have a single creative bone in them and don't understand the community and don't want to. They simply look at what appears to be popular now and clone it to try and make a fast buck. Oh look WoW is really good lets slap that formula on another franchise and make a MMORPG (Warhammer Age of Reckoning).

Hey lets try rebooting some of the old IP we ripped out from the many studios we gutted over the years. Hmmm Syndicate was a tactical RTS game. Lets just reboot it as an unimaginative FPS. Oh what Syndicate bombed. Lets make more FPS.

Oh look COD is awesome lets make a gritty miltary FPS when we already have a military FPS that came out only a year ago. Oh! Warhammer AOR bombed, lets retry that really successful formula with another IP, Star Wars. Oh our clones are failing! SWTOR gonna go F2P less than a year after release, MOH getting panned by everyone! What gives! we simply copied what our competitors were doing, why doesn't it work???

See the problem EA?
 

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Well this should be interesting to watch, I wonder if their stock is going to take another dip.

Wait a minute, how come this sold so well in the UK?
 

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Squilookle said:
nikki191 said:
looks like we might be finally starting to get to the end of the latest fad cycle. even the hardcore fanboys of this seem to be getting sick of it and wont accept a half assed game.

what next? back to world war 2?
God I hope so. And yes, I am deadly serious.

Hopefully this time they'll be forced to do more than the same old Omaha Beach D-Day story and realise that there's more material to use in WW2 than just about any other conflict humans have ever had.

Not to mention it's hard to argue that the fighting in WW2 wasn't important. Regardless of personal opinions, you can't ignore that there is far less agreement as to the value of the current War on Terror.
Call of Duty: The 100 Year War
 

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erttheking said:
Well this should be interesting to watch, I wonder if their stock is going to take another dip.

Wait a minute, how come this sold so well in the UK?
Needed filler while waiting for Halo and/or COD to drop?
 

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squid5580 said:
erttheking said:
Well this should be interesting to watch, I wonder if their stock is going to take another dip.

Wait a minute, how come this sold so well in the UK?
Needed filler while waiting for Halo and/or COD to drop?
I'm just curious because I'm surprised that these American military shooters actually appeal to people over seas.
 

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BloodRed Pixel said:
Warfighter
what a totally stupid name. What else do expect to do in a wargame?

Warwoodfloorpolishing?
I'd hate to see what it'd be as a post-war life simulator.

Medal of honor: WararrivehomeonaboatandstartlookingforajobbutyouhavetogetredundanttraininginyourfieldbeforeyoucangetemployedagainandthenyoufinallygetajobbutthengetfiredasaresultofPTSDhallucinationsandendupbeggingonthestreet.

Rolls right off the tongue, eh?

Edit: And apparently off the page too. Oh well.
 

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It was a crappy, generic, buggy, unfinished "modern shooter" released a month before CODBLOPS2 and Halo 4.. no one wants it.
 

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Korten12 said:
Mangles69 said:
The only real way to kill off COD and BF and MOH games is to simply stop buying them. I have to buy a single one of these titles, due to just hiring them when they go weekly at my local Blockbuster...If we all did this, then finally these shitty series would be gone!
Or more like all of the series you hate. I like CoD, not sure about this "Modern Warfare 4" but I am looking forward to Blops 2. As for MoH, it probably should die though it's literally gone generic as you can go. Even compared to CoD.
I can't remember where I read it but a reviewer rather poignantly pointed out that the comparison between warfighter and modern warfare 3 boils down to modern warfare 3 being good at hiding the smoke and mirrors that rail you along the campaign with environments built for it, warfigfhter doesn't, it just has areas of instadeatht hat aren't clearly marked out to the player, in both single and multiplayer.
 

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erttheking said:
squid5580 said:
erttheking said:
Well this should be interesting to watch, I wonder if their stock is going to take another dip.

Wait a minute, how come this sold so well in the UK?
Needed filler while waiting for Halo and/or COD to drop?
I'm just curious because I'm surprised that these American military shooters actually appeal to people over seas.
Maybe because people overseas can relate to it as well. The English had some hands in this "war on terror" didn't they? So it would really just boil down to different accents and uniforms
 

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hazabaza1 said:
So how's the multiplayer?
That's what people will be buying it for.
It's alright, pretty fun overall. Maps are a touch bland and weapons a touch unbalanced though, the maps in particular annoy me because they're the epitome of not letting you explore, they boil down to a few corridors and a couple houses with MAYBE an upstairs window, so it suffers the same issue as BF3 where you can't really gain highground and such except for very specific locations or by abusing glitch (like flying up on top of skyscrapers on top of the UAV thingy in BF3, wish they hadn;'t patched that one).
 

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I hope somebody picks up that phone . . . BECAUSE I FUCKING CALLED IT!

But really, a lot of people, many of whom are on this site, were able to see that this game likely wouldn't sell well, so why couldn't EA see it? They're releasing it near the same time as Black Ops 2, they held back reviews, and they didn't market the game very well. What else did they really expect to happen?
 

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...and on that day, not one single fuck was given about EA's other other other FPS shooter.

Don't they realise, we don't want more military shooters, we have plenty, we want zombie survival, sandbox games. If they don't bring anything new to the table, then why should we even consider looking at this. Frankly, I think Ghost Recon 1 and 2 got it spot on, just the sort of hardcore military shooter I enjoyed, big teams of players working together to finish a mission perfectly.
 

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Military shooters need to be revamped. This was getting out of hand and now it's just ridiculous. Doorfighter was so obviously rushed they had a 1.7GB patch to fix gamebreaking issues.

Zhukov said:
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There is a very defined meaning of murder, and it's not what you think it is. In most games, if you just stand around enemies they will kill you without hesitation (except in really bad AI cases) and in the real world that is a perfectly justifiable homicide - not murder. If Warfighter is a murder simulation, so is Final Fantasy, Mario or [insert other beloved franchise which isn't a shooter].

hazabaza1 said:
So how's the multiplayer?
That's what people will be buying it for.
Reviewers are actually praising it's "originality" with the Fireteam system.

Never mind that the concept was present as a squad system long ago in previous Battlefield games.
 

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I would have bought it, but uneven tiled floors are one of my phobias.