Dana22 said:
Poomanchu745 said:
Javex said:
I'm disappointed in you, EA.
You are disappointed that they listened to soldiers and families of soldiers and used better judgment in making a decision? It's not like they were being forced to do anything. They chose to heed the wishes of many people who's lives have been changed by their interaction with the Taliban?
I wouldn't have minded either way really, but it sounds like they at least used good reasoning and judgment in this call.
Yes, I am.
Im curious if they would listen to ww2 veterans and their families, and remove Nazis from different game.
The differance being that World War II is over 50 years in the past.
What's more, this kind of thing would never have been an issue during World War II because it was a real war. As in one where we actually fought instead of this "winning the peace" crud where we engage in police actions as opposed to simply destroying the enemy and his nation/culture of origina nd then coming home.
During World War II the goverment invoked War Powers, that is the long standing abillity of the goverment to pretty much use The Constitution for so much toilet paper for the duration of a conflict. Things like the current "patriot act" that people foolishly rail against were compromises between invoking full war powers, and peacetime operation.
The goverment took direct control of all media, and surpressd dissent. Reports were either pro-war "booyah America" or not made at all. People could still gather information, but anything that was negative to the conflict or what the goverment wanted was surpressed until years after the conflict officially ended. This is why while they aren't part of mainstream history, you can find plnty of pictures of American atrocities, as well as plenty of evidence of what we really had to do in order to win the war. It wasn't pretty. War Powers allowing the goverment to paint it as an epic battle between good and evil, when in reality Hitler was very popular in the US (international man of the year) before the war, and isolationist sentiment was very strong. There was plenty opposition to the war on a lot of grounds but those people were effectively gagged through whatever means nessicary.
The World War II propaganda machine produced things like the stories of "Human Flesh Lampshades" and "Portable Nazi Bone Grinders" and other things, complete with physical evidence... all of which turned out to be elaborate fakes when tested a long while after the fact and as a result put doubts (among the educated) on the validity of a lot of other claims made during World War II. People like Ilsa Kochs were demonized during the war, yet when actually tried were never successfully convicted. While doubtlessly a horrible person, the stories about her that lead to (much later) exploitation movies like "Ilsa, She Wolf Of The SS" and the like were also by and large false.
The point here being that during the war, had someone tried to make a game like this where you could play as the Nazis, it would have been shut down instantly. There would have been no complaining to the media allowed. If the company persisted there would have been some nice deep, dark goverment prison to stick them in until the war was over.
Wars blow chips for a reason, never forget that. However they are also nessicary, and that includes those kinds of techniques. Right now I think we are demonstrating why such things are nessicary, there shouldn't even be dialogue on a subject like whether it's okay for a company to effectively write propaganda for the other side.
