Earth Defense Force 2025 Review - Giant Insects

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Jim, you repeated yourself with describing the giant insect killers.

Jimothy Sterling said:
There are four character classes to choose from. The Ranger is a standard soldier, employing conventional assault rifles and missile launchers in the war against giant insects. The Ranger is a support character, calling in air strikes and summoning vehicles that can deal major damage to giant insects. The Fencer is a heavily armored, slow moving warrior that carries both a shield and high damage weapon, bringing massive firepower to the giant insects. My personal favorite, the Wing Diver, is a lightly armored flying soldier, vulnerable to attack from giant insects, but very fast and armed with fairly entertaining energy weapons, all of which prove effective against giant insects.
Personally, I would've docked more points for the racism against giant insects. It's not even like they're trying to be inclusive. Giant insects are becoming a more important market of video game buyers, you know.
 

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All I know is I've enjoyed the previous games. Like Jim's beloved Dynasty Warriors that he mentions here (also a personal favorite) big and load will always have a market. Kind of surprised that Jim did not care for 2025 but to each his own I guess. For me there's little difference in the joy of mass carnage be it glowing ancient Chinese weaponry or loud sci-fi firepower, it's all good!
 

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I enjoyed both 2017 and insect armageddon, so there's a good chance I might enjoy this one. Especially as there is not, and will never be, a good starship troopers game.
 

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"The problem with Earth Defense Force is that it's utter crap."

You lost me there, but that's okay.
I don't mind reviewers I tend to agree with having bad views on things from time to time.
SEE: MoveBob's to-hard-to-be-serious for all things related to an otherwise mediocre film called 'Sucker Punch'.
;)
 

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Jimothy Sterling said:
Earth Defense Force 2025 Review - Giant Insects

Giant Insects.

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Well, okay. But it's still better than if it were the same level of quality, except you're shooting brown people in a desert. Right?
 

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Earth Defense Force 2025 is another in a line of terrible games about shooting giant insects while being told to shoot giant insects by people who talk constantly about how giant the giant insects are.

Giant insects.
Plot twist: The insects are actually regular size; you're just incredibly tiny!

Duh-duh-DUHHHHHH!

[sub][sub]This is probably not true. I've never played one of these games, so I have no way of knowing.[/sub][/sub]
 

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I'm not sure it's kosher to have your recommendation for a game about killing giant insects be "giant insects," the implication being that only giant insects would take such joy in killing giant insects. Bit of a crude stereotype there, Jim.

I mean, it's not like some of the most popular game franchises are all about humans shooting other humans on the thinnest of pretexts. Who'd be interested in something so vile and unsympathetic?
 

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Not sure why, but I really thought Jim would be on the pro-EDF team. I guess because he has a whole Escapist show dedicated to telling the world about films that most people hate but he loves, and a strong affinity for Dynasty Warriors.

Not that I'm saying EDF 2025 is good or anything. I played and enjoyed EDF 2017 back in 2006(7?) but it wasn't because I was eager for that kind of game, there just weren't a lot of games on the 360 and it was a load of dumb fun I could co-op with a friend.

Still, shocked that Jim didn't dig it. But after EDF: Insect Armageddon I'm not giving this series anymore love anyway so I guess it shouldn't matter.
 

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This could have been a good turn-based game in the vein of X-COM. As it's a shooter, I'm not sure any company could have made it any better without turning the focus away from giant insects.
 

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This seems like a parody of this other review with the amount of GIANT INSECTS...
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2014-02-18-earth-defense-force-2025-review
 

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Hmm, I'm not sure I getting a good enough feel from your review of the relative size of these insects Jim, could you elaborate further?
 

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Honestly despite some of the bad reviews this game is getting I'm enjoying it far too much. It won't be game of the year but if you enjoy the gameplay and the style you're still getting amazing value for your money.

If you won't pick it up right now at $50 please make an effort when the price drops, this game is just amazing for anyone who's a fan of B Movie sci-fi.
 

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Shjade said:
I mean, it's not like some of the most popular game franchises are all about humans shooting other humans on the thinnest of pretexts. Who'd be interested in something so vile and unsympathetic?
A valid point indeed. Kill soldier X, defeat space alien Y, destroy robot Z. Pretty standard for any shooter to have fodder, but EDF is a constant horde/survival mode. When I played EDF long ago I compared the game to Contra; shoot everything avoid getting hit. Sure there was a story, but did anyone really pay attention to it? Still EDF's constant chatter was bothersome after awhile. And yes, many of the weapons were utterly useless although novel.
 

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Spiders aren't insects. Robots aren't insects. A far more accurate description of all the foes you fight are "giant chungus," really.

Anyway: this game looks like entertaining, daft fun. I just wish it weren't full-price. I paid $10 for EDF 2017 and that's about what it's worth, as much as I loved the hell out of it. EDF 2025 should be a budget title, or a downloadable thing. As much fun as I'm certain I'll have with it.
 

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Andy of Comix Inc said:
Spiders aren't insects. Robots aren't insects. A far more accurate description of all the foes you fight are "giant chungus," really.

Anyway: this game looks like entertaining, daft fun. I just wish it weren't full-price. I paid $10 for EDF 2017 and that's about what it's worth, as much as I loved the hell out of it. EDF 2025 should be a budget title, or a downloadable thing. As much fun as I'm certain I'll have with it.
I am the same, I bought 2017 out of the bargin bin for $5 and probably won't spend more then $10 on this one if I owned a console. Mind you I couldn't stand playing it solo it was always more fun with a friend and then throwing something at them when they killed you.
 

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Shjade said:
I mean, it's not like some of the most popular game franchises are all about humans shooting other humans on the thinnest of pretexts. Who'd be interested in something so vile and unsympathetic?
The thing is... in a good manshoot game, there's a certain tactile feel to killing. Blowing zombies away with a shotgun. The blood splatter in Counter Strike. When I tried EDF, it felt... soft. The way the ants splattered, the way the guns felt. It all felt soft.
 

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RA92 said:
Shjade said:
I mean, it's not like some of the most popular game franchises are all about humans shooting other humans on the thinnest of pretexts. Who'd be interested in something so vile and unsympathetic?
The thing is... in a good manshoot game, there's a certain tactile feel to killing. Blowing zombies away with a shotgun. The blood splatter in Counter Strike. When I tried EDF, it felt... soft. The way the ants splattered, the way the guns felt. It all felt soft.
...actually I was just poking fun at Call of Duty and its ilk.
 

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Kind of weird that he didnt like this one, its exactly like Dynasty Warriors but with assault rifles and rocket launchers instead of swords and lances.
 

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Sanunes said:
Andy of Comix Inc said:
Spiders aren't insects. Robots aren't insects. A far more accurate description of all the foes you fight are "giant chungus," really.

Anyway: this game looks like entertaining, daft fun. I just wish it weren't full-price. I paid $10 for EDF 2017 and that's about what it's worth, as much as I loved the hell out of it. EDF 2025 should be a budget title, or a downloadable thing. As much fun as I'm certain I'll have with it.
I am the same, I bought 2017 out of the bargin bin for $5 and probably won't spend more then $10 on this one if I owned a console. Mind you I couldn't stand playing it solo it was always more fun with a friend and then throwing something at them when they killed you.
Oh yeah, EDF is a co-op shooter through and through.
 

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Shjade said:
RA92 said:
Shjade said:
I mean, it's not like some of the most popular game franchises are all about humans shooting other humans on the thinnest of pretexts. Who'd be interested in something so vile and unsympathetic?
The thing is... in a good manshoot game, there's a certain tactile feel to killing. Blowing zombies away with a shotgun. The blood splatter in Counter Strike. When I tried EDF, it felt... soft. The way the ants splattered, the way the guns felt. It all felt soft.
...actually I was just poking fun at Call of Duty and its ilk.
... I'm not sure why I replied to you.

Excuse the brain fart.

Captcha: had a great fall

Yes, captcha.
 

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Hey, i'm in a bit of a rush and havn't time to actually read the review, could someone tell me..Are there any Giant Insects in this game?
 

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I suppose these points are pretty valid. EDF 2017 was a blast, but it was also a campy bargain bin title. There is no way in hell I could pay a full 60 dollars for it. I made the mistake of getting Insect Armageddon when it was new, and got roughly a quarter of the same game for four times the price. Well, with shinier graphics, of course.
 

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I still have one question remaining.

Does it have Giant Insects?

I think this might be vital to my enjoyment of this game.
 

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For far less money, you can buy a copy of Starship troopers and a bag of Cheetos.

It's basically the same premise, only much more enjoyable
 

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One thing this review didn't answer for me, which I was really hoping it would, was is EDF 2025, at least better than 2017, or on the same level at least? For the amount I picked up EDF2017 for, I got an insane amount of replay value out of it. My friends and I knew it wasn't going to blow the world away, but it was easy simple arcade like fun. For the price of $50, I wouldn't be able to blame any reviewer for rating it lower, especially when Insect Armageddon was about $29.99-$39.99 on launch.

What I want to know is if this is a better game than EDF 2017, as I would think the main demographic for this game are players of the previous games in the series. It would be like reviewing a new Dynasty Warrior game without comparing it to another older game in the series.

Either way, waiting til the price drops on this game, because seriously D3, $50 for a sequel to a budget title?
 

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I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on this one. It's a highy... galvanizing (is that the word I am looking for?) title. I can genuinely enjoy the classes and the gameplay and have at least some fun with the cheese, but I can totally see why the stuff he mentioned is unacceptable for some.

However, the price is just a bit of a dealbreaker for me. If it drops enough, I'll get it and get a friend of mine to play it with me. We did that a bit for Revelations 2012 and it was actually really fun (especially since that game has chaged an incredible amount sine I first saw a video of it).
 

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IDS3Remix said:
One thing this review didn't answer for me, which I was really hoping it would, was is EDF 2025, at least better than 2017, or on the same level at least? For the amount I picked up EDF2017 for, I got an insane amount of replay value out of it. My friends and I knew it wasn't going to blow the world away, but it was easy simple arcade like fun. For the price of $50, I wouldn't be able to blame any reviewer for rating it lower, especially when Insect Armageddon was about $29.99-$39.99 on launch.

What I want to know is if this is a better game than EDF 2017, as I would think the main demographic for this game are players of the previous games in the series. It would be like reviewing a new Dynasty Warrior game without comparing it to another older game in the series.

Either way, waiting til the price drops on this game, because seriously D3, $50 for a sequel to a budget title?
I can understand your hesitation to buy at this price, especially after Insect Armagedon which I had the misfortune of paying full price for.

That being said, yes it's a updated and (keep in mind my personal opinion as a huge fan of the series) better version of 2017. The four classes are really different keeping the gameplay fresh while the online co-op is where they can all mix together and really shine.

My first co-op session I played a support Wing Diver sniping ants from rooftops and collecting pickups while the slower Air Raider plowed through the horde below me in a tank only stopping to call in airstrikes.

As soon as the price drops this is easily a must buy for anyone who liked the 2017.
 

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ZZoMBiE13 said:
Not sure why, but I really thought Jim would be on the pro-EDF team. I guess because he has a whole Escapist show dedicated to telling the world about films that most people hate but he loves, and a strong affinity for Dynasty Warriors.

Not that I'm saying EDF 2025 is good or anything. I played and enjoyed EDF 2017 back in 2006(7?) but it wasn't because I was eager for that kind of game, there just weren't a lot of games on the 360 and it was a load of dumb fun I could co-op with a friend.

Still, shocked that Jim didn't dig it. But after EDF: Insect Armageddon I'm not giving this series anymore love anyway so I guess it shouldn't matter.
I know of another site that loved the older EDF games, and even they felt 2025 was a poor entry into the series.
 

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Windknight said:
I know of another site that loved the older EDF games, and even they felt 2025 was a poor entry into the series.
As someone that owns every single game in the series besides the portable re-releases, I can tell you that it's most definitely the second best game in the series.

The only reason why anyone would consider EDF 2025 poor is by comparison to the second game in the series, Global Defence Force (EU title, the second game in the series). This solely because that game, despite being released earlier, has an even greater variety of environments and enemies (Notably - advanced UFO bombers, giant bombers, millipedes and rolling pillbugs) than EDF 2025.

EDF 2025 even have some baffling omissions of enemies that were in it's direct predecessor, EDF 2017. To be specific, EDF 2025 lacks any and all Vallak Dino Mechs, the Godzilla expies. Why they choose to do that is a mystery to me. Instead there are quite a few filler levels that serve no other purpose than to give you more armor and weapon drops.

But in every other regard it is an improvement over 2017.

I'd personally rank the entries in the series as follows:

1. Global Defence Force (EDF 2)
2. EDF 2025 (EDF 4)
3. EDF 2017 (EDF 3)
4. Monster Attack (EDF 1)
5. EDF Insect Armageddon
6. Global Defence Force Tactics (Horrible turn based strategy spin-off of EDF 2)

If you play this solo, it might not be worth $50. But if you have a dedicated co-op partner (Or 3, with the addition of online co-op), it is definitely worth the price.

If you enjoy the core gameplay, there's enough content to keep you satisfied for months.
 

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Niche Cult Classic
Repetitive, arcadey gameplay
sub-par graphics and physics
emphasis on mashable combat
Pseudo RP system with buyable weapons

Now, What game am I describing? EDF or Dynasty Warriors?

Because except for 'Cast of Large, Colorful Characters and Explosive Super Moves" they're the same damn thing.
 

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I don't understand how Jim can bash this game at the same time he gives the DW games praise even though that series is popular in-spite of its shortcommings more or less for the same reason as this one.

I also think the complaints some people are giving this game over the graphics is stupid. Of course the graphics aren't extremely good, they need to power to process the dozens of bugs that are on the screen at once. If the game had great graphics but contained the same amount of action then the framerate would crawl to a halt. There are already drops of FPS already, can you imagine what it would be like if the graphics were even better?

Thankfully I hear they are working on a ED game for the PS4, so perhaps that game will have a smoother framerate.