I'd pay for someone to do that and take picturesAndrewtheeviscerator said:Jesus christ how immature can people be. I mean come on you might as well had just gone to their headquarters and spray painted "cock" on their wall or something.
how does that hinder you from making legitimate complaints?NinjaDeathSlap said:Well done you twats! Now we can all look on as it becomes impossible to make a legitimate complaint against the business practices of EA without being pigeon-holed as a member of the most immature demographic of gamers. Seriously, how much do you have to suck to make EA come out of anything looking like the good guy, and it's a position that I'm sure they will now milk for all it's worth, just like they milked the people who accused Bioware RPG's of shoving homosexuality in their face. If we want EA to change, or just go away if change is no longer possible, then can we please stop handing them ammunition for crying out loud?!
Well done. Well fucking done!
This statement is true, and can be applied to every idiotic behaviour that people do that put the gaming community down a couple of pegs. Morons on the outside already assume we are all just immature man-children, let's not give them valid reasons for it.NinjaDeathSlap said:Well done you twats! Now we can all look on as it becomes impossible to make a legitimate complaint against the business practices of EA without being pigeon-holed as a member of the most immature demographic of gamers. Seriously, how much do you have to suck to make EA come out of anything looking like the good guy, and it's a position that I'm sure they will now milk for all it's worth, just like they milked the people who accused Bioware RPG's of shoving homosexuality in their face. If we want EA to change, or just go away if change is no longer possible, then can we please stop handing them ammunition for crying out loud?!
Well done. Well fucking done!
Firstly, having seen Jim's most recent episode, I think you are misrepresenting the details of his point. If I recall correctly, his line of argument was not so much that those people had "invalidated their right" to rational debate, and more just that what they were doing (ie. rape threats/making mini-games where you punch Sarkeesian in the face etc.) have no place in rational debate, and only serve to sully the image of all who disagree with Sarkeesian, while elevating her into some kind of martyr for the feminist cause. By all means, these people can continue to make all the, oh so serious and rational, points against Sarkeesian that they like, but they are not going to be taken seriously while the blatant harassment continues. No matter how legitimate your grievance against someone might be, if you're going to act like a child, then you will be treated like a child.trollpwner said:Jim Sterling posts an episode on Monday claiming that those who insulted Sarkeesian invalidated their right to rational argument on the grounds that it pushed the conversation into troll territory that she didn't have to defend. And then, here, you say the exact same thing about this post. Without basis. Despite that this attack on E.A. is completely different to the attack on Sarkeesian. And you expect me to call the a co-incidence? Go, on. I'll humour you. Tell me why I'm wrong.NinjaDeathSlap said:SNIP
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One time I got a prank call, does that strengthen my ability to play the victim? Now maybe if Origin was hacked and every game was replaced with naughty images then they could play the victim card, this pretty much amounts to stepping in gum, a minor annoyance and only serves to emasculate them further as a professional company.King of Asgaard said:As a few said above, this is not helping anyone, it only strengthens EA's ability to play the victim, and that's the last thing we want.
It hinders me because, as another person who just quoted me said far better than I did originally (props btw), the gaming community is already seen largely from the outside as a bunch of insecure man-children, and all examples like this do is add evidence to support that sentiment, which makes it harder for those of us who actually do want rational debate to be taken seriously.WashAran said:how does that hinder you from making legitimate complaints?NinjaDeathSlap said:Well done you twats! Now we can all look on as it becomes impossible to make a legitimate complaint against the business practices of EA without being pigeon-holed as a member of the most immature demographic of gamers. Seriously, how much do you have to suck to make EA come out of anything looking like the good guy, and it's a position that I'm sure they will now milk for all it's worth, just like they milked the people who accused Bioware RPG's of shoving homosexuality in their face. If we want EA to change, or just go away if change is no longer possible, then can we please stop handing them ammunition for crying out loud?!
Well done. Well fucking done!
Agreed, but I wouldn't put it past them to use this to try to gain sympathy, or something.NiPah said:One time I got a prank call, does that strengthen my ability to play the victim? Now maybe if Origin was hacked and every game was replaced with naughty images then they could play the victim card, this pretty much amounts to stepping in gum, a minor annoyance and only serves to emasculate them further as a professional company.King of Asgaard said:As a few said above, this is not helping anyone, it only strengthens EA's ability to play the victim, and that's the last thing we want.
Yes, because noone at all had that opinion before ... Oh wait, I think some people did ... Multiple times.trollpwner said:DOUBLE SNIPNinjaDeathSlap said:SNIP
That does not make it impossible to complaint. And as we have seen from a tone of storys they dont listen to reasonable people. They only listen when people are really loud and aggressive.NinjaDeathSlap said:It hinders me because, as another person who just quoted me said far better than I did originally (props btw), the gaming community is already seen largely from the outside as a bunch of insecure man-children, and all examples like this do is add evidence to support that sentiment, which makes it harder for those of us who actually do want rational debate to be taken seriously.WashAran said:how does that hinder you from making legitimate complaints?NinjaDeathSlap said:Well done you twats! Now we can all look on as it becomes impossible to make a legitimate complaint against the business practices of EA without being pigeon-holed as a member of the most immature demographic of gamers. Seriously, how much do you have to suck to make EA come out of anything looking like the good guy, and it's a position that I'm sure they will now milk for all it's worth, just like they milked the people who accused Bioware RPG's of shoving homosexuality in their face. If we want EA to change, or just go away if change is no longer possible, then can we please stop handing them ammunition for crying out loud?!
Well done. Well fucking done!
Heh, this was almost exactly what I thought as soon as I saw the title of the thread. Glad to see there's other people with common sense on the internet.NinjaDeathSlap said:Well done you twats! Now we can all look on as it becomes impossible to make a legitimate complaint against the business practices of EA without being pigeon-holed as a member of the most immature demographic of gamers. Seriously, how much do you have to suck to make EA come out of anything looking like the good guy, and it's a position that I'm sure they will now milk for all it's worth, just like they milked the people who accused Bioware RPG's of shoving homosexuality in their face. If we want EA to change, or just go away if change is no longer possible, then can we please stop handing them ammunition for crying out loud?!
Well done. Well fucking done!
Dude. Seriously.NinjaDeathSlap said:I'm sorry... what?trollpwner said:Flagged. That'll stop you mindlessly spewing Mr. Sterling's opinion in a hateful manner without applying any critical of your own.NinjaDeathSlap said:SNIP
I like to give people the benefit of the doubt, at least the first time. Especially now you can get warned for accusing someone of trolling... but yeah, I thought as much.Mid Boss said:Dude. Seriously.NinjaDeathSlap said:I'm sorry... what?trollpwner said:Flagged. That'll stop you mindlessly spewing Mr. Sterling's opinion in a hateful manner without applying any critical of your own.NinjaDeathSlap said:SNIP
"You have the same opinion as someone else, I'm flagging you, ha that'll show you"
What part of that didn't set off troll warning lights in your head? Go to your profile, go into edit ignore list, add his name. Done. Hell, I know he'll be trying it on me next so I've already added him to mine.