Eidos Employee Fired Over "Hate Speech" on Facebook

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The Abhorrent

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Going to pass over details such as violent fanatics, personal opinions, and the other nonsense... but one of the biggest dangers of social networking, of which professionals are aware of (but let's assume the fired employee was not, likely because he wasn't a licensed professional and hasn't got the memo), is how easily you can ruin your own reputation through it. Here's some of the general guidelines:

#1 - If you can, avoid using social networking.
Perhaps overly strict, but the safest way to avoid images of you doing something which could harm your reputation as a professional getting posted on Facebook... is to simply not have an account on Facebook. While not an absolute guarantee, things won't be so readily linked to you having a bit too much fun. Not being a really social person myself, I haven't started using any of the social networking sites; I also have no intention of starting to either, I don't need it and there's no point for me to invite this risk.

#2 - If you are using social networking, don't use your real name.
The most common way this is done is to use your first and middle names, forgoing your surname. Avoiding professional titles wouldn't be a bad idea either. This allows you to keep some distance from your online persona, and to keep people from your professional activities out of your personal life. Even though I try to keep a decent of conduct online, I always use an alias; this is just good practice to keep yourself out of any accidental trouble because you couldn't control yourself online (which seems to be a very common occurrence).

#3 - Use whatever controls you can on social networking to limit such images being posted or linked to you.
Only something I've heard of (again, don't use Facebook or anything like it myself), but it can be set so that an image can't be linked to you unless you personally approve it. Again, just keeping yourself out of trouble by any means necessary.

#4 - If you are using social networking and your real name on it, be very careful of what you say and do.
In the event there's no way you can avoid dissociating your personal and online activities from what you do in profession, the utmost level of control must be taken. Reputations, once brought down, are notoriously difficult to rebuild. It's easier to get from being an unknown person to being regarded as one held in high esteem than it is to cast off a negative reputation (let alone reclaim any measure of prestige). Saying something stupid and offensive, opinion or otherwise, is the fastest and easiest way to get expelled from anything.

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The Eidos employee wasn't just fired because of his actions, he's probably been black-listed. I'm not just saying he's not going to have a great deal of difficulty finding a job in the games industry again, he's going to have trouble finding it anywhere. No one is going to want to hire someone who said what he said, to safeguard their own reputations. In fact, that's pretty much the reason he was fired; Eidos doesn't want to be associated with anyone who said that, period.

I actually pity him, because he's got an exceptionally rough road ahead in his life. He didn't just make a small mistake with his statements, he made a huge one; and it will be an eternal albatross around his neck. Any future employers are always going to be watching him, how he acts and what he says; he's going to have to be very careful with what he does, period.

I would actually wish him luck, he will be needing it.
 

Goofguy

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Not really surprised this kind of thing happened.

I certainly would not wish bodily harm upon Pauline, but I do sincerely wish her political career goes down the crapper.
 

duchaked

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one would think it a general rule of thumb not to post something on the Internet along the lines of wanting to or wanting someone to kill someone...at least not if you wanna keep your job
 

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Kumagawa Misogi said:
Don't worry continent of NA it won't belong before you copy the UK with lovely signs all over the place informing you that if you overhear(eavesdrop) people's private conversations about racist/sexist/discriminate/violent topics you should immediatly alert the police :)
Surely you can't be serious... *chuckle*

Really? Please tell me you are joking. There's no way this can be real... Right???
 

Upbeat Zombie

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Interesting I didn't even know about the attempted assassination until I read this article. But anyway yeah I bet that Eidos employee is regretting that comment now.
 

kburns10

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There have been some TRULY cringe-worthy comments made recently in general. I still don't get why people think that they can say whatever they want on the internet anymore and not have it come back to them. That's just how society is now.
 

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Sober Thal said:
duchaked said:
one would think it a general rule of thumb not to post something on the Internet along the lines of wanting to or wanting someone to kill someone...at least not if you wanna keep your job
Not with your own name anyways, eh?

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Maybe he was drunk. I say dumb shit all the time while drunk. (here especially)
oh yeah that's another one =.= staying away from the Internet when intoxicated loll
 
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Kumagawa Misogi said:
Don't worry continent of NA it won't belong before you copy the UK with lovely signs all over the place informing you that if you overhear(eavesdrop) people's private conversations about racist/sexist/discriminate/violent topics you should immediatly alert the police :)
I have never seen or heard of any such signs, and would expect the police to ignore you if you ever actually went to them over something like that.
 

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And that...
..is why I don't have a Facebook account, or account in similar social network, and never plan to add one.
I may wish death upon many politicians, but you know what they say - don't speak your wish aloud, else it won't come true.
 

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Someone actually took a shot at her? Wow.

Still, I fucking hate the Separatists. I don't think they realize just how nasty things could get if they actually leave. Their infrastructure is shit, their construction companies are filled with corruption, and they are bleeding the Maritimes dry with hydro bills.

Plus could you imagine just how bad congestion would get on the bridges over the Ottawa River if they had to set up fucking border stations? My home is five minutes drive to Quebec, and putting a border gate at fucking Portage-Du-Fort? It's a pissy little town that's only contribution is a convenient cheap liquor store.
Surprised you didn't know it was all over the news. I know what you mean though the whole Separatists movement has always been so silly. The French really don't have it that bad here and nobody is forcing anybody to stay if they want to go nobody is holding them here they can go anytime they want.

Still I feel bad for Pauline I doubt she deserves all the threats and even assassination attempt hell nobody deserves that.
 

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aba1 said:
Soviet Heavy said:
Someone actually took a shot at her? Wow.

Still, I fucking hate the Separatists. I don't think they realize just how nasty things could get if they actually leave. Their infrastructure is shit, their construction companies are filled with corruption, and they are bleeding the Maritimes dry with hydro bills.

Plus could you imagine just how bad congestion would get on the bridges over the Ottawa River if they had to set up fucking border stations? My home is five minutes drive to Quebec, and putting a border gate at fucking Portage-Du-Fort? It's a pissy little town that's only contribution is a convenient cheap liquor store.
Surprised you didn't know it was all over the news. I know what you mean though the whole Separatists movement has always been so silly. The French really don't have it that bad here and nobody is forcing anybody to stay if they want to go nobody is holding them here they can go anytime they want.

Still I feel bad for Pauline I doubt she deserves all the threats and even assassination attempt hell nobody deserves that.
I missed it, since I don't have a television. I only learned about them winning the election through my brother who goes to school in quebec.
 

aba1

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Soviet Heavy said:
aba1 said:
Soviet Heavy said:
Someone actually took a shot at her? Wow.

Still, I fucking hate the Separatists. I don't think they realize just how nasty things could get if they actually leave. Their infrastructure is shit, their construction companies are filled with corruption, and they are bleeding the Maritimes dry with hydro bills.

Plus could you imagine just how bad congestion would get on the bridges over the Ottawa River if they had to set up fucking border stations? My home is five minutes drive to Quebec, and putting a border gate at fucking Portage-Du-Fort? It's a pissy little town that's only contribution is a convenient cheap liquor store.
Surprised you didn't know it was all over the news. I know what you mean though the whole Separatists movement has always been so silly. The French really don't have it that bad here and nobody is forcing anybody to stay if they want to go nobody is holding them here they can go anytime they want.

Still I feel bad for Pauline I doubt she deserves all the threats and even assassination attempt hell nobody deserves that.
I missed it, since I don't have a television. I only learned about them winning the election through my brother who goes to school in quebec.
Fair enough without a tv it is really easy to see how you could miss it especially if you don't visit any news outlets.
 

aba1

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U.S. resident here, so I'm a little in the dark about this whole thing. I haven't seen anything about this shooting on the news, but it sounds like a big deal. Did this just happen today, or a few days ago?

Anyway, can't believe that guy posted that. Not because he was dumb and didn't think it would get him fired, but just the open threat itself. An innocent person was killed and he doesn't even care. That's disturbing to me. Hopefully they do file charges and lock him away.
Nobody got killed it was a assassination attempt and it happened about a week ago or so.

*edit*

One person got shot I forgot that a innocent man was murdered.
 

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Okay, I'm American, and WHY HAVE I NOT SEEN ANYTHING ON THE NEWS ABOUT A FREAKING ASSASSINATION ATTEMPT ON A POLITICIAN'S LIFE?
That would be because your guys media likes to pretend we don't exist for the most part and when you do mention us it is generally a reference to a stereotype in some way. Obviously not everyone or everything is this way but a lot of it is.
 

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Fired? Hell, if it were my company, I'd give the guy a promotion and a medal. Not only for his opinion, but for having the balls to say it.
 

kburns10

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aba1 said:
Timnoldzim said:
Okay, I'm American, and WHY HAVE I NOT SEEN ANYTHING ON THE NEWS ABOUT A FREAKING ASSASSINATION ATTEMPT ON A POLITICIAN'S LIFE?
That would be because your guys media likes to pretend we don't exist for the most part and when you do mention us it is generally a reference to a stereotype in some way. Obviously not everyone or everything is this way but a lot of it is.
So true and so sad. I remember discovering a channel similar to BBC in my college dorm that had news from around the world. It was fascinating to see what was going on around the world and hear about stories other than which celebrity cheated on who.
 

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Ah the whole Quesbec seperatism debate tinged now with the attempted assassination of Premier Marois and the idioty who supported it.

1) Canada does NOT have unlimted free speech as has been pointed out numerous times. Westboro Baptist Church? Deported. Ann Coulter? Politely told she was not welcome. Personally it's a much better system then free speech with no consequences.

2) He deserved to get fired. He might have been joking, blowing off steam or whatnot, but he crossed a line. Eidos was well within their right to can the twit.

3) Quebec will never seperate. The seperatist know this, but they beat their drums cause the Canadian government gives them all kinds of bonus and special treatments. (and I think it gives them something to do and ralley point)

Now, why won't Quebec seperate? Well here's a few big reasons:
1) Every native band has said they will stay with Canada. The natives control over 75% of the territory of Quebec, including almost all the mineral, hydro-electric and forestry. (They don't own it, but it;'s on their lands.) The region next to Ontario has said the same thing. Quebec speratists say Quebec is indivisable. It's not. Quebec is perfectly divisable, especially where the natives are concerned.

2) Their share of the national debt. Canada is not going ot let them leave and let them leave debt free. Also, all the governmental stuff... like the military? Stays in Canada unless they work out a deal to allow some of it to remain in Quebec.

3) A lot of treaties would be broken, for instance the Churchill Falls hydro-electric deal is between the provinces of Newfoundland and Quebec. They become a seperate country, they'd have to re-do the deal and the NF government would not allow them the same terms.

Most Canadians really wish the seperatists would just shut up and give it up. We generally love Quebec and want it to be part of Canada. We accept the biligualism, we try and support the culture, and we generally remain quiet when they get a larger share of the pie then they should. Hell, we let them form the official opposition for heaven's sake. Most other countries would have been actively supressing and jailing the Bloc and Parti Quebecois, but Canada? We let them be the opposition... Heh, only in Canada eh?
 

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I don't understand "hate speech." Speech that constitutes a threat of bodily harm to another's person is a felony, a form of "criminal menacing" I suppose. This wasn't itself anything of the sort, however. Of course, every company, Eidos included, has the right to censor its employees. Eidos reasonably isn't concerned that the employee held such an opinion, but rather that other people were bothered by it and so it reflected poorly upon the company.

But people throw around the term "hate speech" for "speech that hurt my feelings." Is this what we've come to today? Free speech is lying battered on the side of the road, mortally wounded by "feelings." How does that line go? "Your rights end where my feelings begin."

Still, I am utterly against censorship. Oscar Wilde remarked "Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth." By our insistence that we maintain a certain decorum of content in public space, we ensure that we never speak of anything actually important to our hearts. So politicians can argue about "the gays" while expanding the powers of the executive and taking away your social security.
 

Cid Silverwing

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You know shit's gotten too serious when politics are so corrupt that the big corrupts have to be assassinated to restore the status quo that worked, i.e. the one that wasn't half as corrupt as this one.

Fuck the Separatists, it's a Canadian version of the American Civil War waiting to happen.