Elder Scrolls MMO Won't Use The Old Republic Engine

[teh_gunslinger]

Did he really say graphical awesomeness? That really makes me even less interested in this game.

Also hot keys.

 

[Jimmy T. Malice]

This doesn't seem anything like the Elder Scrolls games. From the screenshots, it seems to have departed from the land of Tamriel and gone straight into Generic Fantasy Land.

 

[Grey Day for Elcia]

This doesn't seem anything like the Elder Scrolls games. From the screenshots, it seems to have departed from the land of Tamriel and gone straight into Generic Fantasy Land.

Because all the elves, dragons, dwarves and heroic tales of a lone individual saving the world from evil weren't generic fantasy before? lolwut

 

[PrinceOfShapeir]

This doesn't seem anything like the Elder Scrolls games. From the screenshots, it seems to have departed from the land of Tamriel and gone straight into Generic Fantasy Land.

Because all the elves, dragons, dwarves and heroic tales of a lone individual saving the world from evil weren't generic fantasy before? lolwut

There are no Dwarves in The Elder Scrolls.

 

[Kenjitsuka]

"stability, graphical awesomeness,"

Oh right! Those are TOTALLY not things the engine brings to the table.
Has this person ever PLAYED a game, let alone developed one?

Of course the engine is the main pillar behind those things.
And then they screw it up with terrible programming and we get the infamous bug ridden Elder Scrolls games....

And hey, developing an engine is VERRRRY expensive.
You license one for a million bucks, dude...

So, they will be all noble and "make our own stuff!", until someone tells them that new stuff costs a lot of time, which equals MONEY. And then they stick with HeroEngine and be forever silent. When called out they say "Yeah, we had good intentions, but stuff was expensive, so..."

 

[Pedro The Hutt]

The lengths they are going through to avoid comparisons to TOR are becoming pretty hilarious.

It'll take more than an engine change to cover the fact you were heavily inspired by TOR guys!

 

[thiosk]

People begged and begged and begged for a god damned TES MMO. Enjoy what you get. You'll get an MMO set in the TES universe, not a multiplayer TES. This is because TES is designed around ultimate flexibility-- kill anyone you want, live with the consequences. Fill your house with sweetrolls and cabbages.

A TES MMO will let you play a khajiit, and let you act out your lusty argonian maid fantasies all day long in the town square, but we will say goodbye to most of what makes TES stand out from all other games.

I can't wait to see the 30 nude nords in the town square jumping around in circles spamming HOW U MINE FOR FISH??

 

[thebobmaster_v1legacy]

This doesn't seem anything like the Elder Scrolls games. From the screenshots, it seems to have departed from the land of Tamriel and gone straight into Generic Fantasy Land.

Because all the elves, dragons, dwarves and heroic tales of a lone individual saving the world from evil weren't generic fantasy before? lolwut

There are no Dwarves in The Elder Scrolls.

There are Dwemer ruins and Dwarven weapons, though.

 

[Oro44]

I'll probably check this game out for the sole purpose of seeing someone figure out how to clone thousands of watermelons in the game and crash the server.

 

[bat32391]

This doesn't seem anything like the Elder Scrolls games. From the screenshots, it seems to have departed from the land of Tamriel and gone straight into Generic Fantasy Land.

Because all the elves, dragons, dwarves and heroic tales of a lone individual saving the world from evil weren't generic fantasy before? lolwut

There are no Dwarves in The Elder Scrolls.

There are Dwemer ruins and Dwarven weapons, though.

But aren't they elves?

 

[Graill]

This guy really said this?

"In general, a game's engine doesn't really define what kind of content, or even what type of game, you can make,".

And this....

"The real factor in stability, graphical awesomeness, and other features is the ability of the programmers and designers that you have working on the game"


Ya, my faith in gaming programmers and producers is waaayyyyyy up there. *Shakes head sadly*

This is a negative statement to that dev for those not "getting it".

 

[Slanzinger]

"Regardless, Firor argues that a game's content and quality isn't dictated by its engine."
....yes it is.
The fact that they are using such a shitty engine as an alpha engine is worrying as it shows what style of gameplay they are aiming for (crap hotkey), and that the graphical fidelity will be dire. This looks like yet another EQ/WoW clone that will fail miserably.

[...]

But what similarity will this shitty mmo hotkey game have with the ES series? Fuck all from the looks of it.
And a game engine determines exactly how the game will run. It just changes on how much tinkering is done on it by the devs.

The engine really is not the be-all-and-end-all. It's just a construct. The engine does not dictate the playing style, else it would not be possible to have DotA 2 and Half-Life 2 running on the same engine. (at least, I didn't notice DotA 2 becoming an FPS when it was ported over to the Source engine...)

Surely the fact that they've said they'll be using a different engine means in itself that they're aiming away from that anyway... but until they've got something else to work with, it's going to be a good jumping-off point.

 

[V da Mighty Taco]

This doesn't seem anything like the Elder Scrolls games. From the screenshots, it seems to have departed from the land of Tamriel and gone straight into Generic Fantasy Land.

Because all the elves, dragons, dwarves and heroic tales of a lone individual saving the world from evil weren't generic fantasy before? lolwut

There are no Dwarves in The Elder Scrolls.

There are Dwemer ruins and Dwarven weapons, though.

But aren't they elves?

Dwemer are often called Dwarves in the Elder Scrolls series (Skyrim in particular). The -mer suffix might mean that, like Orcs (full name being Orisimer), Dwarves might be technically Elves even though they're otherwise considered vastly different creatures altogether.

 

[Denamic]

This doesn't seem anything like the Elder Scrolls games. From the screenshots, it seems to have departed from the land of Tamriel and gone straight into Generic Fantasy Land.

Because all the elves, dragons, dwarves and heroic tales of a lone individual saving the world from evil weren't generic fantasy before? lolwut

There are no Dwarves in The Elder Scrolls.

The Dwemer are Dwarves.
Well, technically they're elves too.
Like the Orcs are Orsimer, also Merfolk, and as such, technically elves.
Besides, 'Dwarves' originally comes from ancient Nordic mythology, where they were also called 'Svartalver', meaning black elves.

 

[Grey Day for Elcia]

This doesn't seem anything like the Elder Scrolls games. From the screenshots, it seems to have departed from the land of Tamriel and gone straight into Generic Fantasy Land.

Because all the elves, dragons, dwarves and heroic tales of a lone individual saving the world from evil weren't generic fantasy before? lolwut

There are no Dwarves in The Elder Scrolls.

No dwarves? Have you not played an Elder Scrolls game, or...?

"A race of stonecutters, artisans, and engineers. They invented machines and built elaborate underground cities where they researched powers to rival the gods themselves. And then, at a time we are still not sure when, they disappeared. The whole people, all at once. Leaving behind only their works."

Oh yeah. Nothing like dwarfs.

*looks at my Dwarven armor. Looks at my dwarven weapons*

Nope. NO DWARFS HERE.

 

[Freechoice]

This doesn't seem anything like the Elder Scrolls games. From the screenshots, it seems to have departed from the land of Tamriel and gone straight into Generic Fantasy Land.

Because all the elves, dragons, dwarves and heroic tales of a lone individual saving the world from evil weren't generic fantasy before? lolwut

There are no Dwarves in The Elder Scrolls.

Yagrum Bagarn would like to have a word with you. [http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Yagrum_Bagarn]

 

[Jimbo1212]

"Regardless, Firor argues that a game's content and quality isn't dictated by its engine."
....yes it is.
The fact that they are using such a shitty engine as an alpha engine is worrying as it shows what style of gameplay they are aiming for (crap hotkey), and that the graphical fidelity will be dire. This looks like yet another EQ/WoW clone that will fail miserably.

[...]

But what similarity will this shitty mmo hotkey game have with the ES series? Fuck all from the looks of it.
And a game engine determines exactly how the game will run. It just changes on how much tinkering is done on it by the devs.

The engine really is not the be-all-and-end-all. It's just a construct. The engine does not dictate the playing style, else it would not be possible to have DotA 2 and Half-Life 2 running on the same engine. (at least, I didn't notice DotA 2 becoming an FPS when it was ported over to the Source engine...)

Surely the fact that they've said they'll be using a different engine means in itself that they're aiming away from that anyway... but until they've got something else to work with, it's going to be a good jumping-off point.

The engine determines everything.

The reason DotA 2 and HL 2 use the same engine is because the Source Engine is very solid and flexible.

The HeroEngine on the other hand is pretty shit and only benefits the devs work time.
Knowing how the studio works, saying " a new engine" means getting another engine and butchering it to the point of not working and then sticking their own label over the existing one.

And no, how the hell is it a good jumping-off point? The engine is buggy, graphically dire, has no strengths or features for gameplay, and supports combat that is nothing like the ES series.