EmDrive May Generate Warp-Like Field, NASA Engineers Discover

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EmDrive May Generate Warp-Like Field, NASA Engineers Discover

While it has yet to be confirmed, NASA engineers studying the controversial EmDrive may have discovered it generates Star Trek-styled warp fields.

Right now there are a lot of people wanting to go to space. And I'm not talking about the <a href=http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/140170-Mars-One-Finalist-Claims-The-Operation-Isnt-a-Scam>Mars colony folks or <a href=http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/140170-Mars-One-Finalist-Claims-The-Operation-Isnt-a-Scam>future asteroid miners - I mean the people who want starships that can visit other solar systems. Now if a group of NASA engineers talking shop online are to be believed, there's a pretty strong chance science stumbled across a warp drive by accident.

So here's the necessary backstory. Way back in 2000 Roger J. Shawyer developed the EmDrive, a proposed spacecraft propulsion system that doesn't need fuel as a propellent. By 2006, the concept faced heavy criticism for violating the law of conservation of momentum - not to mention a distinct lack of peer review to his research. Eventually teams in China and the US, including a group at NASA that investigates fringe proposals, constructed their own versions for testing. These devices promptly surprised everyone <a href=http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/136568-Physics-Defying-Space-Drive-Confirmed-by-NASA-May-Revolutionize-Spaceflight>by working even when nobody quite understood how. It wasn't enough to get us to space, but was interesting enough to warrant future research.

Skip ahead to this month, where we have a propulsion device that somehow produces microwaves to generate thrust. According to posts on NASASpaceFlight.com, someone at NASA wondered where the thrust came from and used a tool to measure variances in light's path-time. What this tool recorded is that when lasers are fired through the EmDrive's resonance chamber, some of the beams start moving faster than the speed of light. If everything checks out - and on the surface the math does - it means the EmDrive is producing some kind of warp field.

Once again, this is not a confirmed warp drive we have on our hands. Critics will point out the effect could just as easily be caused by atmospheric heating, which means the test has to be recreated in a vacuum. But if that test produces the same results, a lot of very intelligent people around the planet will absolutely lose their minds with excitement. Of course, getting a warp field large enough to propel a spaceship creates its own problems, but it could be a very small, very significant step all the same.

At this point, it's necessary to throw up a very important disclaimer: None of the information here has been verified, peer-reviewed, or is considered academically sound. By tomorrow, someone could realize they made a mathematical error, or conducted measurements in metric and the whole thing will fall apart. But right now, very smart people are considering this to be a legitimate possibility that needs further study. Disclaimer ends.

Source: Mysterious Universe

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P-89 Scorpion

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Not the EmDrive again this is just NASA trolling the internet again. It's not nor has it ever been a real thing get over it.
 

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I'm really disappointed that we don't call it a Shaw-Fujikawa Translight Engine. Still if your the guy to invent warp drives you can name it whatever you want. Hopefully this turns out to be true anyway.
 

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To think that one day it might actually be possible? Almost as astounding as they fact they apparently stumbled onto it, or would anyone actually buy that?

"Accidentally" creating a warp field? More likely they don't want to admit how far they have come in propulsion technology, not that I'm saying they got it from aliens or ancient wrecked spaceships or anything so I'm not going full tinfoil. They simply wouldn't want the general public to be fully aware of the depth and scope of the research into advanced technology like this (especially things with potentially direct military applications) and like that retired Lockheed Martin guy said "Think of the most advanced prototypes the public knows about, they are secretly several decades ahead of that" (paraphrased).

The fact that the US and China were the ones most interested in this makes me more suspicious.
 

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I can't comprehend what's going on or why it might or might not work but you had me at warp fields. Maybe I truly will be able to go space-faring before I'm 40!
 

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P-89 Scorpion said:
Not the EmDrive again this is just NASA trolling the internet again. It's not nor has it ever been a real thing get over it.
Do elaborate.
 

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Dalek Caan said:
I'm really disappointed that we don't call it a Shaw-Fujikawa Translight Engine. Still if your the guy to invent warp drives you can name it whatever you want. Hopefully this turns out to be true anyway.
Anyone who tries that gets murdered in the night by invisible purple aliens that don't think we should have that tech yet.

Unless they're called John.
 

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Pandalisk said:
I can't comprehend what's going on or why it might or might not work but you had me at warp fields. Maybe I truly will be able to go space-faring before I'm 40!
Warp drive or not will have little effect on your chances of getting into space, even if warp drive is real unless you're will be an expert astronaut and scientist chances are that even if you can get to space none of the public and maybe even no-one at all will get to go to other solar systems for a long while yet. If it is real and does get to work you might get to see the first direct images taken of another solar system by the first unmanned probes by the time your 40, if we are lucky and they decide its worth the cost that is.
 

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Dalek Caan said:
I'm really disappointed that we don't call it a Shaw-Fujikawa Translight Engine.
They have to go with an easier name. By the time Captain Picard gives the order, the Beebles from Glornax IV will have destroyed the Enterprise.
 

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008Zulu said:
Dalek Caan said:
I'm really disappointed that we don't call it a Shaw-Fujikawa Translight Engine.
They have to go with an easier name. By the time Captain Picard gives the order, the Beebles from Glornax IV will have destroyed the Enterprise.
Then it gets a slang name or acronym, like FTL or warp, or whatever. Perhaps they'll call it a Phase Transition Engine, or PT Engine for short.
 

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A lot of scientific discoveries were made by accident.

Penicillin, Microwave ovens, Velcro, The Big Bang, Teflon, Vulcanized Rubber (No relation to Vulcans), Coca Cola, Radioactivity, Viagra and many more [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_discoveries_influenced_by_chance_circumstances].

Captcha: what to see

Is it becoming sentient again?
 

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I will remain interested but skeptical. At least officially. Unofficially, I'm crossing my fingers and hoping this is real.

My dream since I was little was to go into space. That dream is always there, but it's one I'll likely never obtain.

Thank god for video games.
 

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Dalek Caan said:
I'm really disappointed that we don't call it a Shaw-Fujikawa Translight Engine. Still if your the guy to invent warp drives you can name it whatever you want. Hopefully this turns out to be true anyway.
Eh I'd much rather it be called a Geller Field. I mean, who knows what kind of unfathomable sentiences lurk in The Warp...
 

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vxicepickxv said:
Then it gets a slang name or acronym, like FTL or warp, or whatever. Perhaps they'll call it a Phase Transition Engine, or PT Engine for short.
They will probably select something lame, like iHop.
 

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vallorn said:
Dalek Caan said:
I'm really disappointed that we don't call it a Shaw-Fujikawa Translight Engine. Still if your the guy to invent warp drives you can name it whatever you want. Hopefully this turns out to be true anyway.
Eh I'd much rather it be called a Geller Field. I mean, who knows what kind of unfathomable sentiences lurk in The Warp...
If I remember right, the Gellar field is separate from FTL travel. FTL came first and the Gellar field let warp jumps go farther.

OT: Interesting if true...
 

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Wait... this is a gaming site... resoncance chamber...

Does nobody else see a connection here?

Of course, using that in a large scale will cause a resonance cascade!
 

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Nasa engine produced 30 to 50 micronewtons, so if we attach together 5000 of those engines and put them in space far away from earth we can send a small cockroach to the moon in less than a year !! (that would give the vulcans enough time to detect the warp signature oh yeah)
 

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crimson5pheonix said:
vallorn said:
Dalek Caan said:
I'm really disappointed that we don't call it a Shaw-Fujikawa Translight Engine. Still if your the guy to invent warp drives you can name it whatever you want. Hopefully this turns out to be true anyway.
Eh I'd much rather it be called a Geller Field. I mean, who knows what kind of unfathomable sentiences lurk in The Warp...
If I remember right, the Gellar field is separate from FTL travel. FTL came first and the Gellar field let warp jumps go farther.
Not quite. The Gellar field is an integral part of successful warp travel. It's the thing that generates a pocket of normality for the ship to stay in during transit, preventing the ship becoming Daemon chow. Which is important when your FTL literally flies through hell. It's the Navigators that let you make longer, more accurate warp jumps.