Erasing ourselves from history.

[TransMando]

Nothing lasts forever except the internet.

If you want to actually erase yourself as an individual from history get off the internet.

 

[Daedalus1942]

Also welcome to the escapist.

I've been lurking for a while actually, and I've been banned for a week after 10 posts (wooo)
Let me ask you this.
If Hitler actually existed, would you have fought with or against him?

As in existed in this day and age, or never existed at all? I'm going to go with in this day and age because trying to argue hitler didn't existed at all is like trying to explain colours to a blind man.

Unless conscription was introduced I probally wouldn't fight at all, but I wouldn't fight for hitler because he was evil and hated just about everyone in the world and I can't stand pointless hate.

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/18.158631

What is this trying to prove? Are you trolling or something because this is just stupid. Can you at least explain your reasons for not believing Hitler existed?

It pretty much just proves he's a complete moron who doesn't believe the holocaust happened. It happened alright, just not in Auschwitz.
Also, he's not welcome here.

 

[Daedalus1942]

Nothing lasts forever except the internet.

If you want to actually erase yourself as an individual from history get off the internet.

Please.. Muzza-Mate? Listen to this man, he is very intelligent!

 

[DemonicVixen]

Meh, don't care, living in the now.

Thanks for giving my thread a good start you Scrooge McDuck.

Aw come on, its better to live for the now that worry about what has been and what will be. He got a point. I too live in the now and choose not to worry about what our society wants to do. We can't stop them so who cares, i used to worry and moan but since it does no good, i give up.

 

[The_Echo]

No, my mind has not been blown. If anything, my mind has been made more sleepy. I don't care about history at all. It's all about the present.

 

[Muzza-Maaate]

It pretty much just proves he's a complete moron who doesn't believe the holocaust happened. It happened alright, just not in Auschwitz.
Also, he's not welcome here.

Obviously I was trolling. And successful troll was successful that day.

 

[Twilight_guy]

Your right, one massive EMP wave and the last twenty years will be gone! Ho noes! Quick, start writing down the internet! What're you doing reading this! Start writing it down man!

 

[TheOldBard]

and if you are smart you can evan get the files of the ruiend HD by reading the 1 and 0 on the copper plate so nothing is lost PS: are you the new doomsbroker or something i think people in the 22 century will be smart anuf to work it out evean if we are not .

 

[mangus]

We are writing ourselves out of history. In a push to be the most amazing, the most informed, the most far reaching of societies in the history of the earth we have put ourselves on digital devices that are only readable by those that hold the exact technology to open fake documents made up of 1s and 0s.

Thousands of years from now a giant pock-mark on history will be void of information and summed up by ageless plastic scattered under massive natural disasters the earth could have moved on from if the entire world wasn't paved in a solid layer of concrete.

Books and tablets are readable for centuries, digital documents are as good as gone in the first massive electrical war that is looming in our near future.

We try to be important, and instead we're erasing ourselves from the very fabric of time itself.

We've even taken the mediums that taught us about past society (art, photos, etc.) and digitized them... we really are writing ourselves out of existence. Our legacy is proprietary information...

Your mind has just been blown.

hahahahahahaha

don't know about my mind, but your theory definitely blows.

 

[erbkaiser]

Not everything that is written is deserving of keeping.
As for books being readable for centuries -- the moment we switched to dead tree paper, was the moment we lost history.

Paper degrades, and old books quickly turn unreadable unless they are specially preserved. Anything important and worthwhile will remain known and will be continually written down again, and stored in new formats, so it will never really be lost.

You can't possibly argue that we're now in a worse state than in aniquity -- when the Library of Alexandria was burned by the muslims, it destroyed so much knowledge we don't even know how much, and this was all stored in books and pamphlets.
Even if the entire internet disappears tomorrow, almost all info in it will still exist in some form on physical harddrives, optical storage mediums, etc..

 

[ERadical]

Just watched the Matrix.
Mindfuck.

 

[Naeo]

This problem is entirely solvable.

Just buy a printer god damn.

 

[MrDarkling]

Digital copies can corrupt,
books can burn and rot.

In the end our history is always at risk, fortunatly our books of greatest value are probably kept in safe underground places, bit like that underground archive in Angels and Demons movie.
and as long as we're on this earth, new history shall be written.

Not so mind blowing really,

 

[AWC Viper]

Paper backups.

And to my knowledge, there is technology somewhat resistant to EMP.

Why yes there is, it's called Lead. so all we do i wrap a Server in a Leadlined room and bam we have saved our 0's and 1's.


OP: seriously. Did you eat a bowl of stupid for breakfast this morning?

 

[Chris0132]

The point of digital storage is that you don't lose everything.

Digital films don't degrade over time or through use, digital text can store whole civilisations worth of data in a few servers and most importantly, it can be copied to other servers near instantly, no centralised facility to destroy. You can no more destroy the information on the internet than you can destroy ever grain of sand on a beach.

The only way we're going to end up without any information on this part of history is if we all end up dead, in which case it's not likely to matter.

 

[Daffy F]

The point of digital storage is that you don't lose everything.

Digital films don't degrade over time or through use, digital text can store whole civilisations worth of data in a few servers and most importantly, it can be copied to other servers near instantly, no centralised facility to destroy. You can no more destroy the information on the internet than you can destroy ever grain of sand on a beach.

The only way we're going to end up without any information on this part of history is if we all end up dead, in which case it's not likely to matter.

Agreed. I think that it's pointless to worry, nothing in the present matters if you think that the future is just the present that hasn't happened yet.

 

[Erja_Perttu]

I sense much troll in you.

Indeed, the troll runs strong in this one.

 

[Cherry Cola]

Your mind has just been blown.

?

No it hasn't.
Yes we are digitizing everything, but they are copies, so in case the original gets destroyed, we can make another. Also if something happens to Earth, hopefully by then we will have humans living off-world, or passed on our information to another sentient species.

If every piece of digital software was destroyed, the likely hood that we would re-create all this software in exactly the same way is minimal.

Wait a tic.
*re-reads OP*

I see. How exactly would an electrical war obliterate every piece of digital software?

Humans are clever and want to be remembered enough that if there was any threat of some kind of disaster that could wipe us or our legacy out, we would
1. Flee and hope that enough people escape to rebuild.
2. Create a computer that stored our legacy and completely cut it off from remote access.
3. Shield the computer as best we can, so it cannot be destroyed.

That idea has one tiny little flaw though...

COMPUTERS WILL CONQUER THE WORLD!!!

 

[atomicmrpelly]

You know you created quite an interesting topic and it would have probably been quite successful had you not responded with hostility to anyone who even so much as questions you.

 

[orangebandguy]

I'm sure we'll be fine. Everyone's too terrified to start wars because of nuclear weapons anyway.

Knowledge will preserved and technology will increase to allow this preservation. And besides we could just put it all in huge vaults on their own independant supply of power.