Escape to the Movies: Black Swan
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So let me see if I got this straight. Hot lesbian sex is a major factor in making a movie good? WTF? I rather like to see about a movies elements, not spend two minutes chatting about sexy lesbians, and how such comments should be fine in society. When did Movie Bob become a critic on society instead of movies?
Here's just something to think about: sex is primal and lacks art, where as sexuality (romance and the like) is nothing but art. Movie Bob should stick with talking about this rather than freaking sex scenes.
Here's just something to think about: sex is primal and lacks art, where as sexuality (romance and the like) is nothing but art. Movie Bob should stick with talking about this rather than freaking sex scenes.
True, sex, like cheesy advertising, sell a product, mainly because it appeals to the base primal instincts of humanity, particularly men. However, sex itself is not an artistic act. As a result, it shouldn't be a major factor in an artistic medium. Things like nude paintings are artful expressions of sexuality, but pictures of an actual sex act is labeled "porn", mostly for good reason. That is why sexuality, not sex, is the important thing.NOOOB1 said:
Anyway, that's my two cents.
I was very, very excited to see this. I'm dissapointed now because it's not even playing in my state. I'll have to wait to rent it now.
I'm not really feeling the love for Movie Bob. I've been watching his new series and caught a few of his overthinking videos and he seems to love playing the "am I the only sane one in the room" card.
In this case, most people (and probably a large chunk of critics) are going to talk about the lesbian scene. I like to read Roger Ebert's reviews and you can always count on him to comment on such things. Sure, he'd make it sound a bit classier, but the "OMG BOOBIES!" moments are fairly common in his reviews. This is a man who wrote a Russ Mayer film after-all. Yeah, they're going to downplay it a bit, because if that's the only reason to watch a movie, then that's not much a reason to watch it... and they're much more likely to have women in their audiences who might not appreciate them perving out in the review. But if there's an infamous erotic scene in a movie, then they're going to comment on it for good or for ill. They don't pretend like it doesn't exist. They just make sure they talk about it like they're adults instead of talking about how they creamed their pants at the sight of two pretend lesbians making out.
In this case, most people (and probably a large chunk of critics) are going to talk about the lesbian scene. I like to read Roger Ebert's reviews and you can always count on him to comment on such things. Sure, he'd make it sound a bit classier, but the "OMG BOOBIES!" moments are fairly common in his reviews. This is a man who wrote a Russ Mayer film after-all. Yeah, they're going to downplay it a bit, because if that's the only reason to watch a movie, then that's not much a reason to watch it... and they're much more likely to have women in their audiences who might not appreciate them perving out in the review. But if there's an infamous erotic scene in a movie, then they're going to comment on it for good or for ill. They don't pretend like it doesn't exist. They just make sure they talk about it like they're adults instead of talking about how they creamed their pants at the sight of two pretend lesbians making out.
i found the scene where she went to town on HERSELF much hotter, moviebob.
shoulda mentioned that.
ALSO! on the commentary for requiem, aronofsky mentions how he considers himself to be a porn director
all of his post-pi films have one of "those" scenes
IF ONLY ALL PORN WAS DIRECTED BY DARREN ARONOFSKY!
a man can dream
shoulda mentioned that.
ALSO! on the commentary for requiem, aronofsky mentions how he considers himself to be a porn director
all of his post-pi films have one of "those" scenes
IF ONLY ALL PORN WAS DIRECTED BY DARREN ARONOFSKY!
a man can dream
I would LOVE to see this at a theater, but this movie is not playing at a single theater anywhere in my state. Which is a shame, I would have to drive almost 4 hours to get to a theater that is showing this film so it looks like I will have to wait for a blu-ray release on this one. Great review though I will see it as soon as I can, maybe I will get lucky the film will eventually get a broader release.
I thought this review was quite interesting. I wondered what exactly Black Swan was and it might just be a winner. I am curious though if you could look at "Stage Beauty" and make the same comments. I would really like to see you review that one. But it is older. :/ Thanks for showing us you still know your stuff!
Lesbian ballerina ninjas on ecstasy......DAMNOnyx Oblivion said:
Secondly if the guy who made Requiem for a Dream did this movie then by all means it's worth seeing.
If anything it incorporates a bit of a Lovecraftian short story known as Pickman's Model. How an artist suffers and mutilates themselves for the sake of art. Like how Portman is doing in this movie, Pickman butchered his sanity for doing everything he could to emulate true horror in his works and paintings.Gyrefalcon said:
I say this movie will definitely be worth watching.
You had me at "Lovecraftian horror". I will have to catch this soon, but I have to catch Tron and Unstoppable first. Group movie dates.Madara XIII said:
Gyrefalcon said:You had me at "Lovecraftian horror". I will have to catch this soon, but I have to catch Tron and Unstoppable first. Group movie dates.Madara XIII said:
Hope you enjoy them then. I'm off to find where in the world this movie plays
I enjoyed the film with its dark and surreal imagery.
On the scene that seems to be focus of discussion. I didn't find it erotic, more disturbing in the sense of what Nina was going through. Sex is part of the film along with violence in the transformation of the main character in her pursuit of artistic "perfection".
On the scene that seems to be focus of discussion. I didn't find it erotic, more disturbing in the sense of what Nina was going through. Sex is part of the film along with violence in the transformation of the main character in her pursuit of artistic "perfection".
Interesting review, MovieBob. Made me laugh with the interrupted intro music and the accent and all that jazz. It's also interesting how you pointed out that particular scene--some of the other reviews I've read have labeled Black Swan as "high-art camp," pretentious stuff that's still over-the-top and indulgent when you scrape off all the artsiness. But I also read that that wasn't necessarily a bad thing with this movie--the execution was superb. And I personally agree that if a little indulgence attracts the kind of audience that would normally wouldn't see this kind of fare, then by george so be it. As long as it doesn't overstay its welcome, if you know what I mean.
After watching a pre-teen Natalie Portman in The Professional last week, I now want to see this movie even moar!
After watching a pre-teen Natalie Portman in The Professional last week, I now want to see this movie even moar!