Sylocat said:
Few things irritate me more than members of a dominant majority group pretending to be persecuted and marginalized.
Dude, Christians own 70% of this nation and hold about 90% of all elected offices (and most of the rest are Jews). You have all the power, and you are still complaining about being persecuted because it makes you feel like heroic martyrs. I cannot fathom how anyone could possibly thing that religious people are "not tolerated" in this country or anywhere else on the fucking planet, yet you claim that everyone hates you.
Take your narcissistic victimization complex and stick it where the sun don't shine, I have no interest in hearing you whine about how they're persecuting you by not wanting you to persecute everyone else.
And there you have it. Thank you Sylocat for proving EXACTLY my point about it.
IMMEDIATELY you are on the 'attack', seemingly offended that someone else could feel targeted by a subset of society and in the process of doing so proved that everything I said was frighteningly accurate.
I can equate this to the plight of my race in America... for some reason the black community by and large still acts as if white people are not to be trusted, that racism is the RULE as opposed to the exception and unless they've gone to epic lengths to prove that they are not the assumption seems to be prevalent that most if not all white people are "racist" in the majority of black minds, specifically in the older generations that lived through the civil rights movements.
The problem is that racism, while not eradicated in America, is NOTHING of what it used to be.. it may be hidden but thats what beasts do when they go to DIE. I've never walked about assuming every white person I meet is a closet racist secretly judging me by my skin color, but you get a bunch of other blacks together and you can garuntee that thought is an unspoken bond between them all. Sure there are exceptions to the rule, but the majority of black people, if honest, would agree with me.
Now the reason I used that example is because these days in our society, being labeled a "racist" is about as bad or worse than being labeled a pedophile... it's a label that is used often and with more frequency as a WEAPON.. usually to silence opposition. We've all seen it, people like Kanye West and Jessie Jackson firing off the "bigot bullet" at every public opportunity to the point that it's become almost expected. "Don't like Kobe Bryant? You must be a racist!".. "Hated the new Will Smith movie? You must be a racist!" Think Wesley Snipes should have served jail time for tax evasion? YOU MUST be a racist.
Society has shifted paradigms and those who were once a silent minority have become a vocal majority of minorities. Speak your mind in the wrong place, amongst the wrong company, and you're a racist.
This is the parallel I draw to Secularists and those who have "Faith". Those who dislike religion have decided that not only should they combat religion on ideology, but at any opportunity. They act as if mentioning "God" or even the existence of "God" is a disease that must be targeted and eliminated whenever, wherever possible.
Ask yourself this honestly... was your post really necessary? Was the tone you used necessary for your argument? Did it help things in anyway? Was it relevant to the subject at hand? Was it really the right attitude and approach for the subject? Were you sensitive to the other side's thoughts and feelings on the subject or were you just winging it from the hip like a typical internet forum d-bag, since y'know, thats the super popular thing these days? What was your ultimate intention? Did you have one?
In essence, were you trying to present a point of view for mutual understanding, or just having a go because you felt like taking it to those "stupid christians"?