They don't, though. They leave out a lot of the context. And while Collins' purple prose isn't necessary, a good chunk of the motives are lost. Assuming you don't infer it based on a previous reading, I guess.hawk533 said:Wait, did Bob say that the first movie was made weaker by removing the "vital interior monologue"? That monologue was the worst part of the books. Suzanne Collins is not a good writer and her over-reliance on interior monologue made the books difficult to read for me. I thought the first movie was significantly improved by actually showing us what characters were thinking through their actions.
She's the Girl on Fire. Obviously, she's just using her mutant abilities.vid87 said:I would at least like to know how they've apparently scrapped together decent weaponry to fight a high-tech martial state. I mean, did she just blow up an air drone with a bow and arrow? Did it at least have a bomb strapped to it or something?
I guess your mileage may vary on this because I thought the interior monologue was one of the best parts of the books, I enjoyed the in depth perspective of the character's thoughts and motives it gave and felt the movie lacked something because of it's absence. Suppose it depends on what you're looking for.hawk533 said:Wait, did Bob say that the first movie was made weaker by removing the "vital interior monologue"? That monologue was the worst part of the books. Suzanne Collins is not a good writer and her over-reliance on interior monologue made the books difficult to read for me. I thought the first movie was significantly improved by actually showing us what characters were thinking through their actions.
Having said that, I'm sure the third movie is stretched thin by splitting up the last book. But I still planning on seeing it because I've read the books.
No, because Katniss isn't the Chosen One of a Campellian Hero's Journey. She's a survivor trying to keep herself and her family alive in the face of social forces that want to break her, kill her, own her, or use her to their own ends. This trilogy is more like The Long Walk or All Quiet On the Western Front than Star Wars.RiffRaff said:Is it just me?
If I remember correctly from when I read the books, it's some sort of bomb arrow like in Twilight Princess. So yeah an arrow with an explosive tip. It's futuristic and all that cool jazz.vid87 said:I would at least like to know how they've apparently scrapped together decent weaponry to fight a high-tech martial state. I mean, did she just blow up an air drone with a bow and arrow? Did it at least have a bomb strapped to it or something?
Ignoring the highly improbable nature of hitting the UaV/Aircraft in the first place an object the size of an arrow could cause havoc if it got into the engine intake, if its some futuristic thing thats heavily reliant on vectored thrust it could even bring it down.HaileStorm said:If I remember correctly from when I read the books, it's some sort of bomb arrow like in Twilight Princess. So yeah an arrow with an explosive tip. It's futuristic and all that cool jazz.vid87 said:I would at least like to know how they've apparently scrapped together decent weaponry to fight a high-tech martial state. I mean, did she just blow up an air drone with a bow and arrow? Did it at least have a bomb strapped to it or something?
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Awesome list, thanks! As the mom of a growing daugther, I want to seed her equally growing library with positive role models - as well as sci-fi and fantasy, because if I have to read one more Heartland horsie novel I am going to go French Cuisine on some unlucky equine's ass. But the books I've read through so far make me want to cry...The Wrede novels look particularly interesting because the first set of the Dragon ones seem to be largely boyfriend free. I have nothing against her reading the gooey stuff too, but I'd like at least a few books to pass the literary equivalent of a Bechdel test. If she don't like 'em, that's fine, but at least she'll hopefully realize that being boy-obssessed in your teens is one choice among others rather than a prerequisite of her gender.Falseprophet said:No, because Katniss isn't the Chosen One of a Campellian Hero's Journey. She's a survivor trying to keep herself and her family alive in the face of social forces that want to break her, kill her, own her, or use her to their own ends. This trilogy is more like The Long Walk or All Quiet On the Western Front than Star Wars.RiffRaff said:Is it just me?
For your purposes, I'd recommend taking a look at books by Tamora Pierce or Patricia C. Wrede. Kristin Cashore's Graceling books and Sarah J. Maas' Throne of Glass series might also be what you're looking for.
Because there are always young children around, so there will always be an audience for the classic fairytales, and new retellings of those stories are welcome for those of us that have heard/watched the stories a million times.Sigmund Av Volsung said:I don't understand how a live-action Cinderella is relevant in this day and age anymore.
I'm pretty sure that even decons and even decon-recons of that particular story are so over-done that it's pointless.
But said stories are so ingrained into popular culture that making a movie based on it is redundant. I mean, it looks exactly the same as the animated movie, just in live action. I don't see how good direction or acting can do anything to assist it.WarpedLord said:Because there are always young children around, so there will always be an audience for the classic fairytales, and new retellings of those stories are welcome for those of us that have heard/watched the stories a million times.Sigmund Av Volsung said:I don't understand how a live-action Cinderella is relevant in this day and age anymore.
I'm pretty sure that even decons and even decon-recons of that particular story are so over-done that it's pointless.
Besides, it's a great director with a strong cast.
Yes, it did.vid87 said:I would at least like to know how they've apparently scrapped together decent weaponry to fight a high-tech martial state. I mean, did she just blow up an air drone with a bow and arrow? Did it at least have a bomb strapped to it or something?
I'm hoping based on what Bob mentioned that the story goes out of it's way to point out that that's a tad ridiculous: it'd be like giving modern soldiers colonial-era clothes and muskets because that's symbolic of US military heritage.DaWaffledude said:Yes, it did.vid87 said:I would at least like to know how they've apparently scrapped together decent weaponry to fight a high-tech martial state. I mean, did she just blow up an air drone with a bow and arrow? Did it at least have a bomb strapped to it or something?
It's part of the whole "turning Katniss into a PR symbol thing". Katniss with a bow and arrow feels more "Katniss"-y to the public than Katniss with a machine gun. So they gave her a bow and a bunch of high-tech arrows (think Hawkeye) to make her seem more unique and impressive. Everyone else is using guns.
To answer your question about their tech, the revolution is mostly led by District 13, who've been in a nuclear stalemate with the Capital since the last rebellion. Their tech has stayed on-par with the Capitol's.
From my understanding of such things (that is, roughly 30 minutes of trying to find pictures of those aircraft cuz I liked the look of em, and trawling through the places they could be found...J Tyran said:Ignoring the highly improbable nature of hitting the UaV/Aircraft in the first place an object the size of an arrow could cause havoc if it got into the engine intake, if its some futuristic thing thats heavily reliant on vectored thrust it could even bring it down.HaileStorm said:If I remember correctly from when I read the books, it's some sort of bomb arrow like in Twilight Princess. So yeah an arrow with an explosive tip. It's futuristic and all that cool jazz.vid87 said:I would at least like to know how they've apparently scrapped together decent weaponry to fight a high-tech martial state. I mean, did she just blow up an air drone with a bow and arrow? Did it at least have a bomb strapped to it or something?
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