Escape to the Movies: New Moon

DalekJaas

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Noelveiga said:
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And J.K.Rowling was a working mum who wrote Harry Potter for her kids while "struggling" on the dole. And Paris Hilton never had a push other than her video. And the moon is made of green cheese.
Although J.K. Rowling is also a terrible writer. I vaguely remember being a teenager, and I'm pretty sure your books don't need to be dumb to be appealing to kids. Harry Potter isn't dumb because it is for youngsters, it is dumb, period.
And you are a dick. Anyone who calls the worlds fastest selling novels that are now used in English class, in schools, now widely loved by the adults who were kids at no. 1 and mature at no. 7 its a dick.

WTF is wrong with you? How could books that made a lady richer than the British Queen, thats inspired generations of kids and provided a thoroughly good read to adults be dumb?

But let me guess your one of the morons who hasn't read them? Or you've read the first 3 which were more for kids than the latter ones. Or you live in a cave a spend all day watching anime and reading online comics...yep that'd be you. Your a real champ.
 

soladrin

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shit book = shitty movie... doesnt have to be... but hey, this shit sure proves that rule XD

I'll just save my money for a proper movie :p
 

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My friends have been trying to get me to watch it for weeks now, i knew why i wouldn't like it but i couldn#t put it into words. Thank you Movie bob for doing that for me.
 

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You know until I watched the film "Let the Right one in" last night, the most recent film I could think of that last did vampires any sort of justice was probably Coppola's Dracula, and even that had its share of cheesy lines, but at least Gary Oldman go the character down.

I don't think I have it in me to sit through another Twilight flick though. The only reason why I watched the first one was simply to have an opinion on what I didn't like about it.

Anyway, Good review Moviebob.
 

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A lot of people have been using the phrase "porn for women" in reference to Twilight. I have to assume that's what it is. I mean, porn isn't good in a directing or acting sense, but lots of people watch it, y'know?

But you know what is WORSE than this movie being over 2 hours? That BOTH Transformers movies were over two hours. Movies about NOTHING approaching the 3 hour mark? Excuse me, but when your movie is longer than Once Upon a Time in America (or about as long), and that movie was about a man's ENTIRE LIFE, there is something seriously wrong here.
 

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what is with the obnoxious bleeping? new Escapist policy?

anyway, I'm glad you took the time to explain what makes it bad, and the few good things about it. good to hear Taylor Lautner is at least a decent actor. moreso when he actually smiles, unlike SOME characters we could mention >.<
 

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I'm not trying to say that it doesn't happen to actors. What I'm saying is all of your assumptions (and that is what they are currently) are based in the fact that YOU believe these are bad movies/books with bad actors, which in my opinion is a vastly undeserved bias on your part, it's not something you (and other people) like, but it is something that a VERY significant group people (yes mostly girls) are enthralled and addicted to. The movies will work, just because of that group of people. Yes Anna Kendrick is a great actress, and I can't wait to see Up In The Air. And on another note, (not important, not like any of this is really) is that Breaking Dawn is not definite in any way, and that if it does happen, it will likely be 2 movies.
My main way of trying to explain the draw of these books is, it's a "romance" and no romance story would be good if there wasn't something to throw a wrench into things, that's all the vampires are. I'm sorry that you don't like her writing, but I do, and SO many other people do. I'm not saying everyone has to love it, but I don't like all the hating on things just because it's not their style. I don't really like action movies, but that doesn't mean I'm gonna say X action movie is shitty just cause I don't like action movies in general...
 

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You consider Mario romance? how often do the people playing those games think about saving the "princess" because they love her, no they either want to win the game or in cases when she is "hot" they want to see her naked... I'm just saying that the likelihood of a man appreciating a book (or movie) about romance is significantly less than the likelihood of a woman.
I never said the movie was bad, I love it I think it's great, I'm just saying it's not Perfect, but what is? (And I have yet to see New Moon)
I am aware of what Pattinson (yes there are two n's in his name) is going through. I understand and I wouldn't begrudge him that opportunity if that is what he honestly wanted to do. I like actors who enjoy their work, you can tell when they don't.
And I'm not quite sure where you assume I'm lying about Stephenie... She's spoken many times, and even has on her website, that it was just a dream, she never intended on making it a book, until with the push of her sister she decided to see if people would even want to read it.
 

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Oh you best believe I never said the book was crap, and yes I do love the book. I'm just saying that it's not a popular style. oh and I shed a tear for you because you liked something with romance in it one time... did that hurt for you?
 

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I didn't need the review to tell me how bad it was. But thank you Moviebob for suming up my main feelings on it. The only thing that you didn't seem to mentioned(which may have been mentioned in pages before) but wouldn't a "werewolf" be "manwolf"? Meaning being half man, half wolf? It seems in twilight they just go straight to wolf or man. Also they can do it when they please, when they can only do certain times and not at their choosing.

Well, anyway, nice review.
 

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I do and I'm a nineteen year old guy. I was planning to see it tonight except a friend (also a guy) who saw it last night said that although it was decent, the amount of screaming fangirls made it less enjoyable, so I may wait until an adult screening is done at the local cinema (i.e. 18 and over only). Have you actually seen it, or made an attempt to see it? If so then your opinion is fair and noted. If you haven't made an attempt to see it then what right do you have to criticise it?

And yes, I do like things like Dracula as well. I simply don't agree that Twilight 'ruined' vampires. Although for all the things I like about the series, I still don't like the 'sparkly' vampires idea.
It only takes one trailer to see that the movie was made for idiots.

Look, let's pretend that your favorite type of music was heavy metal. If a new heavy metal band came out where all the dudes in the band do is run around on stage with their genitals out, rubbing them against each other and crying while they put on lipstick and make out with each other, don't you think you might not like this band?

Same thing with Twilight but with vampires instead of heavy metal.
 

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awsome117 said:
The only thing that you didn't seem to mentioned(which may have been mentioned in pages before) but wouldn't a "werewolf" be "manwolf"? Meaning being half man, half wolf? It seems in twilight they just go straight to wolf or man. Also they can do it when they please, when they can only do certain times and not at their choosing.
Technically, werewolves don't really have a single original "rulebook" like vampires do as mythic creatures go - there've been stories of beast-men in almost all cultures, "lycanthropy" usually meant people who only ACTED feral, and the Medieval European concept of "werewolf" often WAS a human who magically transformed into a wolf or being half-wolf all the time (like Saint Christopher, a non-longer-recognized Catholic Saint who is depicted with a wolf's head in some early artwork.) What we tend to think of as the "everybody knows" version of Werewolves - i.e. changing with the moon, vulnerable to silver, able to transfer the curse via a bite - only goes back to the mid-1930s when it was made up for Universal Pictures' original "Wolf-Man" movie.

To be fair to "Twilight," I'm using "werewolf" because that's the general idea. In the movie/book, only Bella and Jacob ever use the word "werewolf" and only as shorthand - everybody else just says "wolf." The guys in question are aware that they aren't werewolves in the classical mythological sense, their powers are specific only to certain bloodlines within this one specific Indian tribe and has to do with an ancient medicine-man soul-swapping curse centuries back (so no full moons, silver allergies or bite-transferance) that gets explained in Book #3. In Book #4, there's some throwaway dialogue between the bad guy vampires suggesting that there ARE actual "real" Werewolves elsewhere, but that's all that's ever said of them.
 

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Noelveiga said:
Samurai Goomba said:
Quoted for truth
Yes, there was a time where movies over two hours long were considered a bad thing. I remember those days. Those are the days filmgoers typically remember as the days with all the good movies. Maybe there is a connection there.
You know Hero is barely 90 minutes, and tells a story THREE DIFFERENT WAYS? And it is great?

I'd like to meet the director who thought longer movies equated to better films. To me, any movie longer than 2 hours had better do a freaking excellent job of justifying why it is that long.
 

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Nimbus said:
Trivun said:
...so I may wait until an adult screening is done at the local cinema (i.e. 18 and over only)...
Can they even do that? I'm fairly certain that ageism for no reason is illegal.
Private property, and no limit on the ability of a person of the younger demographic to see the money. It falls in the same category as a Ladies' Night at a club or bar.
 

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You know I disliked Twilight from the moment I heard about it, but my hatred for it continues to grow. In fact, when I heard about it was when I liked it most.

This review reinforces that. Thank you (I guess).
 

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Buhuhu ... I enjoyed this review, censors aside. I haven't bothered to read ten pages of comments but I only assume it was for any young Twilight fans who may stumble across it. Or something.

Dakota Fanning was also in Cat in the Hat.

I suppose the appropriate reply to this would be I HAVE FURY!!!!
 

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DalekJaas said:
Noelveiga said:
The_root_of_all_evil said:
And J.K.Rowling was a working mum who wrote Harry Potter for her kids while "struggling" on the dole. And Paris Hilton never had a push other than her video. And the moon is made of green cheese.
Although J.K. Rowling is also a terrible writer. I vaguely remember being a teenager, and I'm pretty sure your books don't need to be dumb to be appealing to kids. Harry Potter isn't dumb because it is for youngsters, it is dumb, period.
And you are a dick. Anyone who calls the worlds fastest selling novels that are now used in English class, in schools, now widely loved by the adults who were kids at no. 1 and mature at no. 7 its a dick.

WTF is wrong with you? How could books that made a lady richer than the British Queen, thats inspired generations of kids and provided a thoroughly good read to adults be dumb?

But let me guess your one of the morons who hasn't read them? Or you've read the first 3 which were more for kids than the latter ones. Or you live in a cave a spend all day watching anime and reading online comics...yep that'd be you. Your a real champ.
i love the harry potter books first off

second off way to go you made an ass of yourself cause someone else had a different opinion.