Escape to the Movies: Prince of Persia

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Prince of Persia

This week MovieBob takes a look at Alad...errr...I mean Prince of Persia.

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Onyx Oblivion

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It's good enough for me if it didn't suck.

I'm still wondering about the new game, though...

As one of the few fans of both the SoT Trilogy and PoP 2008, I'm still on the fence with the new game...Especially since I actually kind of like 2008 more than the SoT Trilogy.
 

Jared

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Well, it was as I expected...and, Aladdin...nothing wrong with that!
 

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Hmm. I admit I was expecting it to suck ass. Might check it out, for curiosity's sake.
Oh, and I liked the end of lost. Yup.
 

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You know, in response to all the "whitewashing" complaints, I have to say... get over it. They picked the actors they thought would be best in the roles, race or ethnicity be damned. They could have gotten a middle eastern actor to play the prince, yeah, but that doesn't mean he'd have been necessarily as good an actor in the role. I actually applaud the fact that they didn't focus solely on their appearance and went with acting talent instead. I mean, look at Michael Cera. He keeps getting cast as an awkward teenager because he looks like one, but he's not a good actor in those roles. The casting director picked the actors that would best carry the story of the movie, and that's the important thing.
 

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I honestly don't understand what everyone's deal is with "whitewashing." I think if you have an actor that is good in a role it shouldn't matter what color he is.

The bit about everyone having British accents, though, IS truly annoying.
 

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Well, it's 'good' I guess.

Am I the only one who think this summer's movie line up look terrible? :(

Now that Iron Man 2 came out... it's all 'meh' stuff.
 

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Hmm... I actually really wanna see this film again... For a while I thought it would be crap.

Not to sound like an angry fanboy but, the lost ending was good... Your account of it sounds like someone who didn't actually watch it but instead read the plot synopsis on wikipedia or something.
 

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Yeah, the LOST ending was bullshit.

Anyway, i wanna see this movie, probably just to show Hollywood that there are people willing to pay for these movies. Just to show some support.

Resident Evil: Degeneration (The recent CGI one) was pretty good though.
 
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well in the games everyone had a brit no wait POSH BRIT accent theres a differnce you know so realy the fact everyone wasn't realy persian is a nod to the video games.
 

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EnigmaHarper said:
I honestly don't understand what everyone's deal is with "whitewashing." I think if you have an actor that is good in a role it shouldn't matter what color he is.
It's about authenticity.
Some (silly) people might claim is has something to do with racism, but really: It's about authenticity.
Ancient Persia would have been populated by Persians, so have a Persian Cast makes it more believable. You can't say Slumdog Millionaire would have been nearly as good is the cast was all Asian. Or that any movie portraying the Yakuza as African guys would be believable. The point of a movie is to tell a story, and you grip people into a story with atmosphere. The proper ethnicity really helps that atmosphere.

It's not a deal breaker, mind you (Not for the sane, or people who have any inkling of an imagination), but it really does help the immersion of the tale unfolding on the big screen in front of you.
 

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The ban on whitewashing explained:

http://humblecomics.com/blog/index.php?entry=entry100524-195255

I disagree, I really doubt they have that cast because those were the best actors ever. I think those were the best actors who the biggest audience (Caucasian Americans) could identify with and that would draw the biggest numbers in(aka Jake Gyllenhal fan girls). But I'm not going to NOT see it for that reason alone. It looks pretty entertaining.

Also, I don't care what anyone says, I liked Mortal Kombat and the first Resident Evil movie. But none of the others :p

Also also, I kinda liked the lost ending, to a point, but I totally agree that it didn't answer any questions and it made all the cool stuff in the series not matter.
 

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I am honestly proud, after it is all said and done, that I have not watched ONE MINUTE of Lost. Seriously, that has got to be one of the biggest slaps in the face of all time.

Anyway, glad to see PoP worked out decently. I probably wont end up seeing it. I am not exactly too enthused about it. On a side note, I saw HTTYD for a 4 time this week xD!
 

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I think this is problys the best review ive seen on pop...however i feel the movie wasent so great tbh i found it boring. But its porblys better than most of games into movies or other ways around.

(Except for spiderman 2).
 

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Onyx Oblivion said:
It's good enough for me if it didn't suck.

I'm still wondering about the new game, though...

As one of the few fans of both the SoT Trilogy and PoP 2008, I'm still on the fence with the new game...Especially since I actually kind of like 2008 more than the SoT Trilogy.
I say rent it, its not worth buying, but it is worth playing. The combat is less in depth than the last two SoT Trilogy games, and actually feels more God of Warish. And you only get to use one weapon at a time. I never played PoP 2008.

OT: Glad to see it doesn't suck, I might go see it now.
 

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Humbly requesting a desktop wallpaper of that badass mario / clooney picture halfway through.

please
 

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Yay!!! A good Game Movie, or just an all around good movie that's fun to watch. Can you really ask for much more? Either I'm happy and will be seeing it tonight or tomorrow morning.

Also the whole the "whitewashing" thing, how come the people who complain about it the most (loudest) seem to sound more racist the what their complaining about? I don't mean MovieBob, I mean the European descent guy I have to listen to at work so he can appear open minded or culturally enlighten? Is it me? Am I just not seeing/getting it?
 

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xitel said:
You know, in response to all the "whitewashing" complaints, I have to say... get over it. They picked the actors they thought would be best in the roles, race or ethnicity be damned. They could have gotten a middle eastern actor to play the prince, yeah, but that doesn't mean he'd have been necessarily as good an actor in the role. I actually applaud the fact that they didn't focus solely on their appearance and went with acting talent instead. I mean, look at Michael Cera. He keeps getting cast as an awkward teenager because he looks like one, but he's not a good actor in those roles. The casting director picked the actors that would best carry the story of the movie, and that's the important thing.
^This.

We have actors that where good for the roles regardless of ethnicity. And it was a good movie, so shut up.
 

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Lost ended?
Yeah right....
Soon you'll probably see some lame commercial where every one is back on the island again (again).
I never watched Lost but I do hate series or movies that have a cop-out ending.

Great review as always but I don't think I'd go see it.
It looks like a generic summer-blockbuster and I'm really tired of those.
 

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Well, this whole review was a bit anticlimactic.

See what I did there?

...I don't. Okay, still, I plan on seeing this movie. Not this week, next week, when I get my allowance. Just because I liked the trailer and it probably won't suck.
 

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Good and informative review MovieBob. I think if this is genuinely the first good video game movie then surely we should roll out the red carpet for the tsunami that is to follow of more GOOD video game movies? Ok, maybe I'm being overly optamistic but at least this one's aparently good.
As a fan of POP: Sands of Time (only the first game as I'm about a generation behind with my video gaming) as long as the film lives up to that, I'm happy. And, I agree with everyone else, there's nownt wrong with Aladdin.
 

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Umm Bob. No criticsms (couldnt care less about the whole whitewashing nonsense)

Firstly: The middle east like India IS part of Asia. Its not a seperate continent.

Secondly, Yeah Ben Kingsley can pull off the whole thing by being half Indian, since India is an Aryo-dravidian civilization. I.e Immigrants from the middle east, mainly what you would now call Iranians, settled in the Indian Sub continent a few thousand years ago. Hence the idea of the linguistic category: Aryan. i.e Iran which means land of the Aryans.

Just saying.
 

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Not much of a Prince of Persia fan I guess, are you MovieBob?

Me neither, but then again, I've never played the games. I've been meaning to ever since Yahtzee did that Prince of Persia retrospective video, since I know all three games of the "main" 3D series are available on the GameCube, but I haven't found them at the retailers I go to.

Anyway, thanks for the feedback, I'll probably go see this movie now.
 

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Good? I thought the film was terrible. I think that even Doom was a better video game movie than this.

Predictable, uninteresting, unoriginal, and just generally bad is how I'd describe it. Just my opinion, but I'm really surprised at how well some people are receiving it.
 

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About the whole India thing. As I remember SoT, India was the place the were invading in the intro and the setting of the game....so yeah. [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SoYeah]
 

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I can explain the whole "British" accent type of thing. When Arabs/Persians who're accustomed to speaking their native language speak English, it sounds remotely like a British accent. But Hollywood seems to only know how to replicate that accent best by speaking in British-ish accent outright, which is understandable. They could've just put Iranian/Middle Eastern actors though... but yeah.


Good movie, it wasn't that bad. It's a decent popcorn flick, and personally I don't get why he hates the ending. Yes, you can see the ending coming from the first 20-30 minutes of the movie, but it wasn't bad or anything.
 

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That last thing was I'd assume the ending to lost, and all I can say is it sounded a lot like yugioh.
 

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Probably going to avoid it, or see it when it comes to the dollar theater... Whatever. I wasn't impressed by the concept, only because POP:SOT was already a really cinematic, story and character driven game. Honestly, take out the repetitive battles, exploration, and having to redo particularly difficult rooms, you've already got like, 4 hours worth of game at most, so really it's not asking too much of Hollywood to try and make that leap.

Not trying to sound pessimistic, but I'm just not all that impressed by the concept... Whatever. Might see it.
 

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Huh, so it doesn't suck? I may just mosey on down to the cinema and take a look. Heck, I might even drag the missus along with me and force her to endure the damn thing for my sadistic pleasure...

As for the Lost, I'm in the "Don't really care" camp here. I tried to watch the show when the first season started airing and by the time the 4th or 5th episode rolled around, I was bored out of my mind. Once every year after that, I'd give the show another go and endure about two episodes, finally giving up on trying to figure out what was going on and who these people were. The plot seemed to get more and more convoluted without actually moving anywhere and the entire thing was a writing clusterfuck as far as I could ascertain.

The only thing I have trouble wrapping my mind around is that the people who wrote Lost also seem to be in charge of Fringe, which is a pretty damn good show...
 

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I am so glad I never got into Lost. That sounds like a stupid ending for a show where half of the fun of watching it is the Wild Mass Guessing you and your friends get into while watching it.
 

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Oh thank GOD it didn't suck, this could be the first of a wave of decent videogame movies!

It could be the Spiderman of video game movies! You know, the one that sets the genre rolling.
 

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I'm just posting here to say how pissed off I also was at the ending of Lost.

It was such a let down.

Also, you apologised for mixing up the flags, then used the phrase "British Accent" which is a rather touchy subject ;D
 

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xitel said:
You know, in response to all the "whitewashing" complaints, I have to say... get over it. They picked the actors they thought would be best in the roles, race or ethnicity be damned. They could have gotten a middle eastern actor to play the prince, yeah, but that doesn't mean he'd have been necessarily as good an actor in the role. I actually applaud the fact that they didn't focus solely on their appearance and went with acting talent instead. I mean, look at Michael Cera. He keeps getting cast as an awkward teenager because he looks like one, but he's not a good actor in those roles. The casting director picked the actors that would best carry the story of the movie, and that's the important thing.
You don't think the fact that Hollywood can't or won't find any good middle eastern actors is very damning? I think it goes back to Hollywood's bullshit assumptions that minorities can identify with white people but white people can't identify with a minorities. That's why Barbershop is a "black movie" but any John Hughes movie isn't a "white movie."

Why are so many Hollywood movies criticizing the war in Iraq now? It might have done some good six or seven years ago.
 

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Not loving the flowplayer watermark. Do I have to be a premium user or something to get rid of it? It's really annoting, it blocks out a quater of the screen. If it's like that for ZP I'll be pissed as it will make it almost unwatchable with the white drawings on the yellow background and all.

Oh yeah, the review. The trailers made it look a lot like a Disney Chronicles of Narnia movie where everything is too clean.
 

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TheNoirGuy said:
Also, I don't care what anyone says, I liked Mortal Kombat and the first Resident Evil movie. But none of the others :p
I agree with you on Resident Evil, I still think it's really good.

Another one that's not fantastic but really funny is Postal. Definitely not the finest piece of movie, but still pretty solid and hilarious as hell.
 

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I can explain the whole "British" accent type of thing. When Arabs/Persians who're accustomed to speaking their native language speak English, it sounds remotely like a British accent. But Hollywood seems to only know how to replicate that accent best by speaking in British-ish accent outright, which is understandable. They could've just put Iranian/Middle Eastern actors though... but yeah.
That and how people in the middle east, asia, and africa are taught english by english people. Which means if they ever reach "fluent" levels, they'll have a unquestionably British/English accent.
 

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ok well if its a rainy day i guess i will pick up tickets then
also the british accent thing is kinda true tbh although its never a real british accent its an american british accent which is worse.
 

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Good. After seeing Ebert's review, I was afraid this would be universally bad, like most of the other non-animated video game flicks out there.

Might still wait to rent it, though. I like the game, I like Jake, but I don't know if it's worth the better part of $20 American.
 

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So it doesn't suck? Well that's nice to know, I might go see when I have a free minute.

And agreed, it would've been nice to see some middle-eastern actors in the main roles, but I doubt it'll be too distracting. It's not exactly a character-orientated flim.
 

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For the last few weeks most of your reviews made me go WTF, Bob. It's baffling, I can't seem to stop disagreeing with you on the movies I actually went to see... I disliked Iron Man 2 for a number of reasons, I enjoyed Robin Hood (although I admit that it was a BIG surprise for me) and I thought Prince of Persia was pretty bad (even though the badness made me laugh quite often with the sheer hilarity of it, so I guess I kinda enjoyed myself here, too).

And since you won't stop shoving the "first good game movie" thing in our faces... it all comes down to personal taste, of course, but I think the Silent Hill movie would like a word and a subsequent punch-up with you.
 

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What aboot the Megaman movie? You didn't enjoy that? (Even with the awful CG at the end, it's a fanfilm so cut it slack for that)
Also; I think you missed the point of the Lost finale. We got to see Jack die. Something everyone wanted for 6 seasons.
 

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Still not going to see it, but good to hear that it's at least half way decent.

By the way, this is not the first good videogame movie. That goes to Silent Hill.

And, I never have even seen Lost before, but to hear that it ends with a big group hug and a moral about friendship sounds like a complete cop out or Téa from Yu Gi Oh abridged rewrote the script :p
 

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Heh, HEEEEEERRRRRRREEEEEEE it comes. Someone should just start a thread (or maybe there is one already) about the ending of Lost. Not that you're asking for it, but here is my two cents.

1. If you didn't watch the show, please browse the following link: http://www.google.com/images?um=1&hl=en&tbs=isch:1&sa=1&q=your+argument+is+invalid&aq=0&aqi=g4&aql=&oq=your+argumen&gs_rfai= . I mean, do you want a cookie? That's like saying, oh shit, I didn't watch Gilmore Girls, but I heard the ending sucked, so I'm going to believe whatever I hear and argue for that point. Ok, so Lost wasn't for you - maybe you didn't get it. Fine, but no one cares to hear you argue some point that you heard from other people.

2. http://living.oneindia.in/kids/short-stories/2008/aesops-fables-please-everybody-200608.html . Everyone knows it is impossible to please everyone. You either liked the ending and took it for what it was worth, or you hated the ending and wanted it to be what you thought it should be. Sure, maybe it wasn't as strong of an ending as one might have hoped, but it wasn't your story to end. The writers had a vision, a storyline in mind, and they went with it. Their message might not have been the one you wanted to hear, but you have to applaud them on their creativity and storytelling to the end.
 

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Well, I'm enough of a fan to go see the midnight premiere and I do have to say I did look to my friend saying now we need a vendor that is really short with a big turban. "It will not break!" smacks it against the table, "it broke." but the ending wasn't that much of a disappointment. No its not going to be a pirates movie, never expected it to be. (Well sort of, same director. The ending didn't give a sense of a sequel, (call it a hunch >> ), but fans know that the game ended roughly the same way. I was expecting his speech at the beginning and end and Farah's- err Tamina's safe word. Course she's useless in the movie but yea it was good. It was a very nice adaptation.
 

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Subzerowings said:
Lost ended?
Yeah right....
Soon you'll probably see some lame commercial where every one is back on the island again (again).
I never watched Lost but I do hate series or movies that have a cop-out ending.
That's exactly what I thought when I first heard "SERIES FINALE!!! ZOMG". Gee, didn't I hear that like... 3 years ago?

Glad the movie looks good. I'll check it out. I only played parts 1 and 3 of the SoT trilogy, but I loved those games.
 

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The first movie based on a video game I really liked was Doom. Now I have a chance to see another good movie based on Prince of Persia Sands of Time and Mega64 Version 3 is available to purchase today. I'm gonna have a great weekend.
 

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Fuck, this review is about prince of persia, why is lost crammed into it? I have to wait until sunday to watch the final chapters of lost cause of my crappy third world cable channels, and now i can't watch this either. I was waiting the whole morning for this...
 

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Tarkand said:
Well, it's 'good' I guess.

Am I the only one who think this summer's movie line up look terrible? :(

Now that Iron Man 2 came out... it's all 'meh' stuff.
Oh the lineup for the rest of the summer looks awful. The only movies I'm looking forward to are Predators (cause its gonna be hilariously bad) and The Last Airbender (cause it could be good, maybe).

Anyway,
Pseudonym2 said:
Why are so many Hollywood movies criticizing the war in Iraq now? It might have done some good six or seven years ago.
I think people are digging to hard too find war allegories in stuff... Avatar was pretty blatant about it but I think this is a reach. If you really try you can make anything into an allegory for anything.

Watch: In How to Train Your Dragon, the dragon represents slavery since he is black in color and bound to the white male main character and can no longer accomplish anything without the superior abilities of his white keeper. He is also chained up and forced to do labor for the rest of the whites when he leads them to the dragon nest. I just came up with that on the spot.

Stop reading so much in to everything, it isn't really there.
 

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I don't remember who did it, but I remember someone saying that the only movies that have a chance of being really decent videogame movies were movies based on videogames that, at the same time, were inspired by movie genres... That way, the movie could be decent on that genre, and just slightly refer the videogame.

Think about the examples some people are giving. Mortal Kombat is a mashup chinese martial arts movie, resident evil is a mashup zombies movie, Tomb Raider is a mashup Indiana Jones-like adventure movies. Mario Bros and BloodRayne, on the other hand...
 

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If I remember correctly, it was a year ago when Bob reviewed Up, marking the official debut of ETTM here on The Escapist. So to that, I say Happy Anniversary! Here's to another great year, Bob.
 

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Alright then, I might just give this movie a shot then since it doesn't seem too bad now.
 

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I would believe you more moviebob that it is good if you actually spent some time saying what it is good about it. Was the action good? Was the acting good? The cinematography? The chemestry? You really don't say WHY it is good, spending most of this review talking about how Anticlimatic or ranting on about the "Whiteboarding," or how bad;y then ended Lost. I know you have only five minutes, but do you actually have to cut down on the review for the off topic rants?
 

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from what i've seen no cares or knows it was based on a video game though i want to know what yahste thinks
ot: yeah i dont know how to spell yahste
 

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While I can understand the complaints about "whitewashing", I just want to direct people to listen and watch any cutscene from Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time. You'll notice that Jake G. sounds and looks almost exactly like the Prince in the game, British accent included. So while he's not exactly Middle Eastern, he is almost a perfect stand in for the video game character, ans since this is a video game based movie, that should be the important thing...right?
 

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Now i want to see it even more, and as for the "whitewashing" comments i got to say i think they picked the actors quite well, i mean Jake acctually does kinda look like the prince with the long hair and wearing the costume.
 

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Oooh, nice to see a good review for this. I don't mind the "whitewashing", neither in this or in The Last Airbender. They're both fantasy fiction, not documentaries. And I don't want to watch an American summer blockbuster with authentic Persian actors speaking in Old Persian. If it was made all gritty like Apocalypto, then by all means, an interesting experiment. However, PoP traces its influences to pulp-adventure literature and "the Arabian-Nights-type of film", with the odd piece of Middle-Eastern mythology. And it has time travel, so all notions that it must be "consistent" now make no sense.

MaraJade03 said:
Yay!!! A good Game Movie, or just an all around good movie that's fun to watch. Can you really ask for much more? Either I'm happy and will be seeing it tonight or tomorrow morning.

Also the whole the "whitewashing" thing, how come the people who complain about it the most (loudest) seem to sound more racist the what their complaining about? I don't mean MovieBob, I mean the European descent guy I have to listen to at work so he can appear open minded or culturally enlighten? Is it me? Am I just not seeing/getting it?
Hey, where is your avatar from? I got a childhood flashback when I saw it, but I can't pinpoint why.
 

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Well I recall noticing the flag mix-up but as an English guy, I tend to see that a lot so I really wasn't offended at all~ Hell Bob's made that mistake before with Africa, and I was just as surprised as he was.

I guess in some ways since Prince of Persia's narrative in the games FEELS like a throwback to the old middle-eastern fantasy epics, one could expect a movie adaption to be just that. It would be the same as the Resident Evil movies, sure they feel like cheesey Romero-esque zombie flicks, but that's because the original games they were based on were made to mimic that feel.

Oh and, as an added note, I totally called that Lost would abandon all interesting questions and cop out. I'm not proud of it, but nothing that lasts so long ever ends well.
 

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I still don't see how Silent Hill was a 'bad' movie. Besides it being a little lengthy and the plot being a little iffy, they made it actually look and feel like the game it was based on. I thought it was a great movie with a great cast. Though my love may just stem from me loving the games, but still, I think I only finished the first Silent Hill once and only ever tried Silent Hill 2 after that. (for anyone saying the plot was hard to follow in the movie, try playing the game and trying to understand)

If anything, there's your first movie that was well adapted, considering the game already had it's faults, why not just adapt those faults into the movie too :)

Julianking93 said:
By the way, this is not the first good videogame movie. That goes to Silent Hill.
Yep, and I'm not going to go see PoP either, never liked the games
 

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it must be a good movie if the only thing they can pick on is the actors' skin color :D
 

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So wait, they made a good movie out of a game which drew it's narrative from the same source as older movies?
 

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I wasn't impressed by the concept, only because POP:SOT was already a really cinematic, story and character driven game. Honestly, take out the repetitive battles, exploration, and having to redo particularly difficult rooms, you've already got like, 4 hours worth of game at most, so really it's not asking too much of Hollywood to try and make that leap.
I look at Prince of Persia as a sort of necessary step into "what sort of games to make film out of". I mean, why would you make a film out of a book when there is so much more room for plot and character development in the novel? At best it can be looked at as a really expensive two-hour commercial for the games.

Unfortunately most of the games chosen have all been the wrong choices. With the exception of Silent Hill, which I've only seen about the ending half-hour or forty-five minutes of (I was loving it until BARBED WIRE AAAUUUGGGHHH DISGUSTING!), this is one of the first games that actually had a plot to begin with. Resident Evil technically did as well, but the real story was in all of the extra documents discovered in the facilities rather than the events of Jill and Chris. Converting that into a cinematic form would be a much more difficult task (and, as can be expected, was too much for little ol' Paul Anderson, whose only real worth as a director is some decent combat cinematography sort of).

Prince of Persia was a franchise that you could take all the necessary story elements in them and easily translate them for a movie-going audience. I think one of the big issues a lot of gamers have is wanting the adaptation to be for them, but just look at how skeptical people in this thread are being.

To me, Jordan Mechner working with Jerry Bruckheimer was perfect. Bruckheimer can make fun films out of the dumbest concepts (National Treasure) and Jordan Mechner would include all the elements essential to the Prince of Persia experience. Y'know, what with being the creator and all.

No, it's not going to be high-art, but in order to accomplish that you'd need something that can be recognizable as art to begin with. There aren't many games out there that can be translated on the level of, say, Fight Club. So until gamers finally grow up and accept deeper experiences mixed in with their gameplay then I say Prince of Persia is the perfect film to say "Hey, Hollywood, this is how to do a game-based film right".

As such, they get my dollar (plus, it's Bruckheimer. It's going to be fun no matter how stupid or generic it gets).
 

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I wonder if M. Night Shyamalan is going to demand you apologize for possibly butchering his name. Seriously, I don't get why he had to apologize about the whole British/English flag thing.

The "whitewashing" of this movie is also stupid and really only goes one way (I don't believe there is a term for black or asian "washing". You'll see what I mean below.). Should they have gotten a stereotypical Persian for the sake of him being a stereotypical Persian? Would the complaints that he is a (possibly) terrible actor then have flooded the forums? Would comments like, "It was a good movie, but the lead actor should have been someone that can carry a movie better", start appearing everywhere?

Also, if I remember right, The Karate Kid didn't take place in China, didn't have Chinese kids picking on the protagonist, and the protagonist wasn't black. No complaints there? Probably because, I have to admit, it looks like the move will be good regardless, even if they swapped some stuff around and didn't stick 100% to the source material. Which is all that matters.
 

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Fuck, this review is about prince of persia, why is lost crammed into it? I have to wait until sunday to watch the final chapters of lost cause of my crappy third world cable channels, and now i can't watch this either. I was waiting the whole morning for this...
I really am sorry about that. For what it's worth, if you stop the player at about 4:30 you can get basically everything about the movie without having to hear the "Lost" jokes ;)
 

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Lost was just dragged out too long.

If any one watches British TV we just had an amazing series end, called Ashes to Ashes. The ending wasn't a cop out and it was actually really very good.

Anyway, I am the only one who thinks Movie Bob is the best thing on the escapist?
 

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MasterSplinter said:
Fuck, this review is about prince of persia, why is lost crammed into it? I have to wait until sunday to watch the final chapters of lost cause of my crappy third world cable channels, and now i can't watch this either. I was waiting the whole morning for this...
I really am sorry about that. For what it's worth, if you stop the player at about 4:30 you can get basically everything about the movie without having to hear the "Lost" jokes ;)
If anything you did him a service. I want my 6 years back.

Grand_Pamplemousse said:
Lost was just dragged out too long.

If any one watches British TV we just had an amazing series end, called Ashes to Ashes. The ending wasn't a cop out and it was actually really very good.

Anyway, I am the only one who thinks Movie Bob is the best thing on the escapist?
I dunno, I'd have a hard time picking between this and Doraleous.
 

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Saw this last night, im a huge supporter of the original SOT series and sorry all, THE MOVIE GAVE THE GAME JUSTICE, it was a very excellent example of a video game to movie transition and i was FAR more impressed and did have a congratulations party in my head from it

as for whitewashing, idc, does it really freaking matter, no it doesnt >.<
 

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Wow, so I have zero regrets about having never watched Lost. That's cool.

Also, I'm inclined to think that as far as claiming "FIRST!" as a successful video-game movie, that title would go to Tomb Raider. A fun movie based on a game that was so derivative of other movies that the video game stuff was mostly lost in translation. I'm with you on this, Bob, the first true video-game movie will be the one that manages to elevate the goal-oriented plot to something greater than just another summer popcorn flick. I've always thought the first Half-Life game had potential to be a great movie... or a completely shit one depending on how it was handled.
 

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I enjoyed Aladdin back in the day:

Well Ali Baba had them forty thieves
Scheherezad-ie had a thousand tales
But master you in luck 'cause up your sleeves
You got a brand of magic never fails
You got some power in your corner now
Some heavy ammunition in your camp
You got some punch, pizazz, yahoo and how
See all you gotta do is rub that lamp
And I'll say

Mister Aladdin, sir
What will your pleasure be?
Let me take your order
Jot it down
You ain't never had a friend like me
 

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I take he didn't think the Silent Hill movie was good. Also the Doom movie was a good representation of the game's spirit, just monsters and guns action.

I also thought this movie would be worse speacially because it thought the story would be dificult to be portrayed to people new to the story.
 

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Alas, it would seem to make a successful summer blockbuster, your lead actor has to be white or Will Smith.
 

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Anyway, I am the only one who thinks Movie Bob is the best thing on the escapist?
Probably not the only one but certainly not a high pertentage. My personal favorite is Doraleous & Associates
 

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Also the Doom movie was a good representation of the game's spirit, just monsters and guns action.
Except that the script completely removed all mention of Hell, which is what Doom is really about - unleashing Hell. If they hadn't copped out on that then the movie would have been genuinely true to the game AND would have had much more interesting visuals!
 

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Heh, I played Prince of Persia, couldn't get over the fact that falling 6 feet would kill your character instantly. Never ended up finishing it, but I did end up finishing Flashback, which had a similar game mechanic going for it. I wonder if they would ever make a movie based off Flashback. I guess if they have a Prince of Persia movie out, anything is possible ^~^!
 

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I saw this movie the other day and I have to agree. It wasn't a particuly great movie but entertaining and enjoyable nonetheless if a little too long. Yeah the ending was a bit of a cop out but to be expected of a Disney made movie anyway and it certainly didn't ruin the film for me. It would have been nice to get some more diversity in terms of ethnicity but I guess hollywood couldn't really obtain any famous Persian actors who they thought would draw in a big crowd - it's all about the money :) Plus I think J.G did a good job as the Prince and suited the role.
 

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I like that Bob pointed out the very shite ending to lost, frankly I didn't watch the series because I felt the basis for it was a trumped up Gilligan's island and only got stupider every time it was given another season. (I may be able to avoid watching it but my friends wouldn't shut up about it) So the fact it had a very Sopranos shite ending only vindicates me to what I believed all along. Lost was a shitty tv series all around that made crap up as it went along.

On a note about the PoP movie I expected it to be good because, lets face it, when you throw a Disney budget behind something you've essentially given the director a blank check and said "Have fun, we'll be over here beating Pixar with a shoe horn if you need more."
 
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*wheeze* Apology accepted, Commander Bob *wheeze*

Heh.

But a good videogame movie, how about Streetfig... Ok, I can't keep a straight face on that one.

Probably will grab a lookie.
 
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If any one watches British TV we just had an amazing series end, called Ashes to Ashes. The ending wasn't a cop out and it was actually really very good.
Yeah, the Americans have had two "versions" of Life on Mars that did the whole American Red Dwarf thing, I wouldn't hold out much for the American Ashes to Ashes. Gene Hunt is just too British really. (Even though I had high hopes for Colm Meaney)
 

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300lb. Samoan said:
esperandote said:
Also the Doom movie was a good representation of the game's spirit, just monsters and guns action.
Except that the script completely removed all mention of Hell, which is what Doom is really about - unleashing Hell. If they hadn't copped out on that then the movie would have been genuinely true to the game AND would have had much more interesting visuals!
Maybe they tried to tell us that we live hell on earth... yeah, lame argument :p xD
 

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one thing thats irks me a lot is that i hear so many people say video game movies are bad (and ya they almost all are) but one movie i have to defend is Hitman, ya know that movie staring Timothy Olyphant, im sure not many people will say they like that movie as much as me, but its a long way form being "bad" and i really enjoy it
 

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I don't know if MovieBob will see this, but this review feels more like "I really wanted to review Lost" rather than a review of Prince of Persia. Sure, it addresses the "whitewashing" and "videogame," but doesn't mention much about the movie itself (like the direction ala 2012's review).

So, yea, Moviebob, you should totally review lost. You know you want to. You won't get it out of your system until you do.
 

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The first good video game move was Resident Evil. Though Mortal Kombat was watchable, which was a milestone for VG movies-- though MK II was painful again.
 

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Good review as always. Have been on the fence about whether to see this film or not. Only thing that really has kept me back from seeing it yet has been the fact that I really don't care much for Gyllenhaal. Not because of whitewashing but him as an actor.
But this is a step in the direction for me to go and see it at least

Dont agree about LOST though, liked the ending, but this is not the thread to talk about that
 

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Mushroom Kingdom = Nintendo
Hyrule = Nintendo

-Sighs-

I respect MovieBob a good deal and his reviews are still very interesting but I really REALLY am getting sick to the core with his Nintendo fanboyism. Nintendo is a major player but is far from the only player to have created original and imaginative game universes and actually Nintendo kinda suck with story which is what other mediums such as films, literature or even audio plays will all require to be their core in a translation from video game to -insert media here-

So here is a quick open letter:

Dear Bob,
Thank you for Game Overthinker and Escape to the Movies over these months I have known of your work. However can you please work on toning your Nintendo fanboyism down more? By this point all your viewers (and certainly fans) get that you more or less see Nintendo's original (and largely unevolving apart from graphics engines) creations to be the gold standard of the video game industry as a whole entity, but the way your love of Nintendo seeps into almost every other review -or at least certainly feels like every other review- is honestly making at least I for one want to view your stuff less since it has become very predictable.

Yours sincerely, Iscin.

/hopefully tactful criticism over

In other news: I really should see this film sometime soon ^.=.^
 

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I like the new smilies you use, especially the "huh?"-version.

As for the actual review, that's a relief. I was wondering whether I should go see it, but the trailer looked a little... cheap, to be honest. I think after this review I'll give it a shot regardless.

Turned off the volume just in time for the Lost-spoiler. I want to live the rage in its full form myself.
 

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EnigmaHarper said:
I honestly don't understand what everyone's deal is with "whitewashing." I think if you have an actor that is good in a role it shouldn't matter what color he is.
It's about authenticity.
Some (silly) people might claim is has something to do with racism, but really: It's about authenticity.
Ancient Persia would have been populated by Persians, so have a Persian Cast makes it more believable. You can't say Slumdog Millionaire would have been nearly as good is the cast was all Asian. Or that any movie portraying the Yakuza as African guys would be believable. The point of a movie is to tell a story, and you grip people into a story with atmosphere. The proper ethnicity really helps that atmosphere.

It's not a deal breaker, mind you (Not for the sane, or people who have any inkling of an imagination), but it really does help the immersion of the tale unfolding on the big screen in front of you.
The problem is that Persian's were originally Aryan, you know blue eye'd and blonde haired with incredibly muscular builds (you know that Aryan that a particular moustachio'd fella loved).

The "dark" aspect of the Mesopotamian region is a relatively new thing, so having a white guy play a Persian isn't so far fetched in terms of historical authenticity, seeing him covered in baby oil however kinda destroys any illusions you may have had.
 

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Prince of Persia

This week MovieBob takes a look at Alad...errr...I mean Prince of Persia.

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We really don't care about the flag thing, so many people get it mixed up the only people who are bothered about it are British people who aren't English (so, Northern Irish, Welsh and Scottish, but really, when has anyone really listened to them? :p )

That was an okay review, but you seemed to deal with the cultural problems, rumors and controversy surrounding the film, and not review the film itself. You are aware that you're a reviewer, and not a social critic? If you want to write columns on society as an organism and the intrinsic role the media plays in it, then do so, but please don't disguise it as a review for a movie. Bob. :p

Glad to see this is an okay film, might go see it. As for the whole Whitewashing thing, I've not heard anything about it until you mentioned it in your video. You sure that's not just your own 'white guilt' being mentally cast onto the film in your own mind?

Oh yea, last thing, you really had to throw that whole 'Jewish Origins' bit in there, trying to say where all the Jews come from? REALLY??? I was sucking my teeth all the way through that. I think you stuck your neck out there for no reason, don't be suprised if someone bites you for it. Don't forget Judaism is a religion, not an ethnicity.
 

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Hmm... maybe i'll have to tell someone to go watch this in the theatre for me so that they can tell me about it. It might actually be worth seeing. :eek:
 

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I feel compelled to point out that the Persian Empire that the PoP franchise is based on (the Achaemenid Empire, which you had a map of) was ruled by people who had recently migrated/invaded from the area around the Caucasus Mountains. They were Caucasian and as white as any given European race.

What makes them look "Arab" now is nearly three millenia of interbreeding with practically every Old World ethnicity outside of Europe. The genetic history of the Middle East is horrendously complicated. Example: nearly a quarter of all people currently living in Iran are a descendant of a Mongol.
 

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Yeah I wouldn't really call it a videogame movie. It didn't seem tied to the game at all. The dagger/time machanic was as deep as it went
 

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Hey, Bob, here's a few good games based movies: Tomb Raider,

Euh ... Euh ... yeah, Tomb Raider. Maybe even Resident Evil: Apocalypse.

There's a lot more not bad movies though like In the Name of the King: A dungeon siege tale, Resident Evil, Mortal Kombat and a boatload more animated movies from Street Fighter to once again, Resident Evil.
 

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There is a good movie based on good film now, but is there a good game based on a good movie?

BTW final fantasy made a good movie from a game first didn't they? #cough# sarcasm #cough#
 

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I might have to watch this movie now... oh and by the way... I just received some disturbing news. Apparently Michael Bay's Platinum Dunes is supposed to be involved in the new TMNT movie: http://www.deadline.com/2010/05/platinum-dunes-steers-turtles-relaunch/

God help us all.
 

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You know what I got out of it?

If a good video game movie is based on a game with a good story, then surely any other game with a good story would have a good movie adaptation, amirite?

Seriously, SHADOW OF THE COLOSSUS. Come the fuck on Hollywood, that is a gold mine you are neglecting.
 

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Hey, Bob, here's a few good games based movies: Tomb Raider,

Euh ... Euh ... yeah, Tomb Raider. Maybe even Resident Evil: Apocalypse.

There's a lot more not bad movies though like In the Name of the King: A dungeon siege tale, Resident Evil, Mortal Kombat and a boatload more animated movies from Street Fighter to once again, Resident Evil.
Mortal Kombat? That was a god awful movie. Despite the fact it was based on a cheesy game.
 

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It's good enough for me if it didn't suck.

I'm still wondering about the new game, though...

As one of the few fans of both the SoT Trilogy and PoP 2008, I'm still on the fence with the new game...Especially since I actually kind of like 2008 more than the SoT Trilogy.
I say rent it, its not worth buying, but it is worth playing. The combat is less in depth than the last two SoT Trilogy games, and actually feels more God of Warish. And you only get to use one weapon at a time. I never played PoP 2008.

OT: Glad to see it doesn't suck, I might go see it now.
Only single weapon combat? How DARE THEY!
 

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You know, in response to all the "whitewashing" complaints, I have to say... get over it. They picked the actors they thought would be best in the roles, race or ethnicity be damned. They could have gotten a middle eastern actor to play the prince, yeah, but that doesn't mean he'd have been necessarily as good an actor in the role. I actually applaud the fact that they didn't focus solely on their appearance and went with acting talent instead. I mean, look at Michael Cera. He keeps getting cast as an awkward teenager because he looks like one, but he's not a good actor in those roles. The casting director picked the actors that would best carry the story of the movie, and that's the important thing.
You don't think the fact that Hollywood can't or won't find any good middle eastern actors is very damning? I think it goes back to Hollywood's bullshit assumptions that minorities can identify with white people but white people can't identify with a minorities people. That's why Barbershop is a "black movie" but any john Hughes movie isn't a "white movie."

Why are so many Hollywood movies criticizing the war in Iraq now? It might have done some good six or seven years ago.
I think its more like "hey, Jake Gyllenhaal is a big-name actor with an athletic physique who has the good fortune of being a good actor, why don't we give him the lead role?".

But anyways on to the review. I have already seen Prince of Persia, so i'm a bit confused over Bob's statement that the ending will leave some people angry. I mean seriously, it was a good ending, a simple time-travel twist that doesn't overly-complicate a otherwise good story.
 

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Mildly good isn't enough for the VG movies blast off. It must be of gargantuan excellency to put credit in the industry.

Also, in the end, it is really based on the old Holywood visions of middle east. Incidentally a game used this vision and the producers caught it.
 

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I think you stuck your neck out there for no reason, don't be suprised if someone bites you for it. Don't forget Judaism is a religion, not an ethnicity.
JUDAISM is a religion. However, the term used was "The Jewish Peoples," which much of anthropology classifies as a "race" - if not also an "ethnicity" - originating in the Middle East (note that the map depicts a period and area of the ancient Middle East, not the modern state of Israel) and subsequently migrating throughout the rest of the world; though one recognizes that this is one of those areas where the actual "split" between seperate cultures and seperate races is increasingly nebulous.

Primarily, it's in there because I found it interesting that Gyllenhaal is recieving the lion's share of grief over the film's casting of "white" actors in Middle Eastern and/or Persian roles, when in the not-too-distant past he wouldn't have been considered "white" to begin with (neither would any of the main cast except for Gemma Arterton, really.)
 

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FUCK THAT! The ending of Lost was great. Unless you missed the point. They weren't able to address all the issues because of ABC's ridiculous time restrictions. More answers are coming on the DVD set
 

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As a fan of action movies, I liked it (I've already seen it). And as a fan of the Prince of Persia franchise, I also liked it. Win-win for me.
 

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I really liked it and I thought the prince of the movie matched the prince of the game so I don't really care if it's historically accurate or whatever. I'd figure the people wanting realism would be more pissed of with the whole rewinding time thing. (Also I thought the original Persians were Caucasian anyway, can't remember where I heard that)

SUSPEND YOUR DISBELIEF.

I thought it was lots of fun because the free-running scenes were better than anything Bourne ever did and the sword fighting was better than... lots of things.

Also I heard loads of people saying it's like an analogy for the real middle east with "weapons... that don't turn out to be there... and a war justified on their presence" but frankly I didn't feel that coming through at all.

But yeah, I felt they made a great movie without tarnishing the name of my favourite video game plot ever.
THAT SAID the thing about "destiny" at the beginning and end. Anyone else think it was a shittier version of the "time is an ocean in a storm" speech from the game?


Also "Moviebob" IF THAT IS YOUR REAL NAME, wtf is wrong with the ending? I fucking loved it. It had a hint of cheese, balanced out with awesome seasoned on top and it fit with the plot.
 

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xitel said:
You know, in response to all the "whitewashing" complaints, I have to say... get over it. They picked the actors they thought would be best in the roles, race or ethnicity be damned. They could have gotten a middle eastern actor to play the prince, yeah, but that doesn't mean he'd have been necessarily as good an actor in the role. I actually applaud the fact that they didn't focus solely on their appearance and went with acting talent instead. I mean, look at Michael Cera. He keeps getting cast as an awkward teenager because he looks like one, but he's not a good actor in those roles. The casting director picked the actors that would best carry the story of the movie, and that's the important thing.
You don't think the fact that Hollywood can't or won't find any good middle eastern actors is very damning? I think it goes back to Hollywood's bullshit assumptions that minorities can identify with white people but white people can't identify with a minorities people. That's why Barbershop is a "black movie" but any john Hughes movie isn't a "white movie."

Why are so many Hollywood movies criticizing the war in Iraq now? It might have done some good six or seven years ago.
I think people are simply looking to pick a fight where there isn't one when it comes to accusations of "whitewashing". It's sort of like saying The Rock wasn't Egyptian, yet he played "The Scorpian King" not once, but twice, and the DVD of the movie actually went so far as to say that unlike the generic "Prince Of Persia" this was loosely (very loosely based) on a real person.... showing a mace with the Scorpian Emblem to point to there being a tribal king who used that symbol somewhere down there at some time... well you get the point.

Also when it comes to swapping other ethnicities it's not viewed as any big deal, I mean when you have a Korean guy playing a Japanese guy, when those two nations/cultures arguably hate each other, why does nobody make a big deal about that? (referring to "Ninja Assasin").

In general I think both politics, and race contreversy, should more or less stay out of fantasy films, video games, and similar things. I am simply put tired of it.

To put things into perspective, when you look at the artwork for the video game, the guy they picked looks pretty close to the picture. Someone could have claimed years ago that the protaganist in "Prince Of Persia" doesn't seem Persian enough, but nobody did until they made a movie.

Furthermore, I can't think of any decent Arabic actors that could have pulled off the character. Heck, I can't think of any decent Arabic actors at all off the top of my head. However to be honest, I don't think that itself is a racial issue either, as much as the fact that you don't see that many ethnic Arabs going into acting (and it takes a lot to succeed in that business), just like how people complain "why aren't there more Black super heroes" yet at the same time I can't think of many black guys who write comic books either.

See, for an ethnicity to become really represented in something that is as competitive as most "artistic" businesses like movies, or comics, you need for a lot of them to get involved and pull ahead in the competitive shark tank that affects everyone involved (and it's about as impartial as you can get). You see a decent number of Asian characters in comics and Asian actors in movies, but then again there are decent numbers of them working in both industries and have been for a while, as time went on there were successes and it changed the industry. Heck you see "Hong Kong Action Cinema" and "Anime" having an influance on Western film making (and vice versa), and the same thing with comics with western and eastern comics being interwoven.

I guess what I'm saying is that if your an Ethnic Arab and something like this bothers you, then maybe you might consider trying for a career on stage? Your not guaranteed to succeed, but if enough people do it, your going to see enough ethnic talent where if someone is going to do an Arabian Nights movie, they'll have a choice of properly ethnic people to perform the roles.

Such are my thoughts at any rate, to me this seems like bellyaching for the sake of bellyaching.

Maybe he can actually do it, but I'd challenge a massive film critic like Moviebob to pick a properly ethnic actor who he thinks could have pulled off this role as well as the guy they chose... considering the source material, and what the character is supposed to look like. Honestly, for all the whining, I don't think the hypothetical guy who should have gotten this role actually exists.
 

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I really am sorry about that. For what it's worth, if you stop the player at about 4:30 you can get basically everything about the movie without having to hear the "Lost" jokes ;)
Cool, I´ll do that.
Also, thanks for the response, really appreciate it.
 

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i personally cant give this movie the title "first good movie based on a game" for the fact that prince of persia the sands of time movie and game are two completely different stories. the game happens all in one castle. everyone minus the male and female lead and villain are "sand zombies" and the mission is to stab the dagger into the giant hourglass containing the sands of time again to undo all this hell. so even if the movie is good or not it only has the name and the concept of a dagger that can rewind time relating the game and movie
 

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Good review, but dammit, why does everyone forget Hitman when talking about video game movies? Hitman wasn't bad. Not the greatest movie, obviously, but it wasn't crap.
 

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I don't understand how people could rag on the ending and ALSO enjoy the Sands of Time ending. They're essentially the same thing. Also, the voices in the game are ALSO British. The original Prince is voiced by a white guy from Ohio.

This video is the final boss and ending to the first PoP:Sands of Time game. Now, voice your opinions about the ending and their British-ish accents. They're staying true to the game, which is very important for fan service and for consistency.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blFVK1u0vnA

Ben Kingsley LOOKS like the Vizier. Jake Gylenhaal LOOKS like the Prince (and he's a good enough actor to carry the part). Please, try to argue against that, he's a dead-fucking-ringer for Dastan, especially from the Warrior Within box art.
 

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Dude, the flag thing. Its really no biggie.

I half expected the movie to be decent, and I can't help but share your indiference.
I've never seen any of these Arabian movies you talk about, but after all the crappy video game movies, I woulda though a good one would be more momentous.

Offtopic - The Lost ending thing, I really agree that they focused too much on the alternate timeline ending.
Its like, they spent 6 years building up this great mythology and back story, but it got shafted by a last season side story.
Needless to say, I enjoyed the ride, but the ending was kind of unsatisfying.
 

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I can't wait to see this, and sorry for getting off topic, but I think a Final Fantasy movie would go over really well. Am I the only one? Must include original music like Zanarkand. Who doesn't love that song? Again I apologize for getting a little off topic.
 

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I'm glad to know that there is a good "game" movie now. Anticlimatic as it is - it's good news.
Will watch it :)
 

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the ending actually shares the ending of the sands of time tirolgy. sort of. also he kinda white in the game and has a british accent in the game. lastly did any one notice that when he rapped his face in that cloth it looks like what the new price of persia rapped his face in.
 

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I'm just posting here to say how pissed off I also was at the ending of Lost.

It was such a let down.

Also, you apologised for mixing up the flags, then used the phrase "British Accent" which is a rather touchy subject ;D
you know what would've been better? had lost taken place in an alternate earth that somehow links to different earths time to time and they ended up in another alternate earth where yeti's are fighting mutant polar bears
 

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I honestly don't understand what everyone's deal is with "whitewashing." I think if you have an actor that is good in a role it shouldn't matter what color he is.

The bit about everyone having British accents, though, IS truly annoying.
Exactly, like how when Morgan Freeman played God in Bruce Almighty, people were cool about it. (Even though everyone pictures God as an white old guy with a beard)
 

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Just... one thing... The Middle East is also Asia, it's Southwestern Asia + Egypt.
 

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I honestly don't understand what everyone's deal is with "whitewashing." I think if you have an actor that is good in a role it shouldn't matter what color he is.

The bit about everyone having British accents, though, IS truly annoying.
there are exceptions, you wouldn't let a white guy play Othello would you? well maybe if the rest of the cast was black...
 

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I honestly don't understand what everyone's deal is with "whitewashing." I think if you have an actor that is good in a role it shouldn't matter what color he is.

The bit about everyone having British accents, though, IS truly annoying.
Hey, at least the British pronunciation of "Iran" as i r a n
is closer to the Arabic and Farsi i y r a a n
than the US pronunciation of "Iran" as a y r a n.

While we're on the subject, here's the one next to it:
&#1593;&#1585;&#1575;&#1602;
That's 'iraaq, not eye-rack. I don't call Mr Obama the Pre-side-dent of the Unnited Statters of Amy Riker, do I?
 

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The "Postal" movie, whilst far from anything remotely resembling cinematic genius was deeply entertaining; so I have to disagree with the "first good video-game movie" comments.
 

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(Even though everyone pictures God as an white old guy with a beard)
According to the mitochondrial DNA analysis boffins, it'd be more reasonable to portray such a deity as looking like this:


Hey, is "OMG" safe for work?


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IWCAS said:
I can't wait to see this, and sorry for getting off topic, but I think a Final Fantasy movie would go over really well. Am I the only one? Must include original music like Zanarkand. Who doesn't love that song? Again I apologize for getting a little off topic.
I fear the box set. How many volumes would it be?
 

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I just came from seeing the movie and it was great! Really. Although the names and relationships of the caracthers were changed, as well as location, it was ass faithful to the game lore as possible.

I saw some critics saying it had to much videogame aspects in it, I say thats exactly what I would expect from a movie based on the videogame, all the moves were reproduced in the movie.

The story was well told and since the respective game of the series is a bit old already I forgot enough to be kept in suspense many times, although I identified the major villain even before the opening credits. But I had forgot about the ending so that was a surprise, it just clicked in my head afterwards. Some bad parts here thou, some cliches like the love story, caracther laughing and something terrible happening afterwards, dropping guard and being attacked. Hollywood should have got over these unoriginal ideas decades ago already.

The acting was good I have to say. Jacob Benjamin Gyllenhaal was well as the prince but should have kept his natural American accent, I could swear he swinged between English and some sort of scottish accent along the movie.Maybe they wanted british accents to be faithful to the game.

In my humble opinion I give it 90%. Will definitely own the DVD.
 

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The "Postal" movie, whilst far from anything remotely resembling cinematic genius was deeply entertaining; so I have to disagree with the "first good video-game movie" comments.
As my brother would say, there is a big difference between ''good'' and ''entertaining.''

And if we are going by the good = entertaining logic, then I have to disagree with you too. Because the Mortal Kombat movie was roughly entertaining.
 

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Bob, you have obviously forgotten the awesomeness that was "Super Mario Bros." It falls into the so utterly-ridiculous-it's good category. I'd also put the "Resident Evil" films into the guilty pleasure category (Sienna Guillory as Jill Valentine). And "Silent Hill" gets some points for capturing the creepiness of the game. Though it does, sadly, fall apart in the last twenty minutes. Eh, maybe you're right...
 

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FUCK THAT! The ending of Lost was great. Unless you missed the point. They weren't able to address all the issues because of ABC's ridiculous time restrictions. More answers are coming on the DVD set
After all the seasons they weren't? You can'y say it was ABC's fault. They knew that the series like any other TV show would be cancelled as soon as the audience rates would drop under a certain line. They shouldn't keep making the plot wondering around and about making it more and more complex so in the last season they go like: "Fuck, now we can't solve everything". Actually even worse when they say they planned to end the series in 3 seasons and ABC signed with them for 3 more, so they had twice the time originally given to come to terms with the plot.
 

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Kind of suprised to hear that Prince of Persia is a good movie. Now I am really curious and want to go see it.

But honestly, I don't know what Movie Bob was expecting. It was only logical that a video game with at least some semblance of an actual plot would be the first one to be made into a decent movie. While I suppose "princess gets kidnapped and Mario needs to save her" is some sort of plot, it's not exactly a concept that would make for a good movie.

Having said that, considering IGN's April Fools Zelda Trailer, I think Legend of Zelda would potentially make a good movie. Not a great one, but perhaps at least a good one.


As for the "whitewashing" thing. While it would be great if they hired some good Iranian actors to play the roles, I don't think their choices were necessarilly bad. I mean, the main actor may not be Persian, but he looks kind of Persian and is preety faithful to the Prince's appearance. So I don't think it's that big of a deal, especially considering Persia was an empire at the time.
 

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TRANSLATION:

"Meh"

anyway, Ive always liked videogame movies.

and indeed I put the resievil movies over the resievil games (except 4, but then again four has fucking nothing to do with the franchise.)
 

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Man, where are the monster of the sand? I mean, did they completly by pass the fact that the whole population became monster of the sand of time. Twisted aberation mindless killing things...

Are there any freaking monster at all in the movie? :(
 

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Ethnically speaking, an Indian would make a far better Persian than an Arab would. Persian and Indian peoples are closely related, and are themselves part of the Indo-European family of nations. In fact, any European (not counting Basques) would make a better Persian than an Arab would, along those lines. Sure, we like to think of Persia as being "Middle Eastern" because they're predominantly Muslim, like the Arab world, but that's a later advent.
 

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Just a quick note on geography: Middle East is still part of Asia (or at least most of it).

Anyway, this looks reasonable. I'm considering watching this one since I MISSED IRON MAN 2.
 

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I really liked it and I thought the prince of the movie matched the prince of the game so I don't really care if it's historically accurate or whatever. I'd figure the people wanting realism would be more pissed of with the whole rewinding time thing. (Also I thought the original Persians were Caucasian anyway, can't remember where I heard that)

SUSPEND YOUR DISBELIEF.

I thought it was lots of fun because the free-running scenes were better than anything Bourne ever did and the sword fighting was better than... lots of things.

Also I heard loads of people saying it's like an analogy for the real middle east with "weapons... that don't turn out to be there... and a war justified on their presence" but frankly I didn't feel that coming through at all.

But yeah, I felt they made a great movie without tarnishing the name of my favourite video game plot ever.
THAT SAID the thing about "destiny" at the beginning and end. Anyone else think it was a shittier version of the "time is an ocean in a storm" speech from the game?


Also "Moviebob" IF THAT IS YOUR REAL NAME, wtf is wrong with the ending? I fucking loved it. It had a hint of cheese, balanced out with awesome seasoned on top and it fit with the plot.
They could have been caucasian or at least they were much more whitish the the original Middle East habitants. Some scholars say they were a mix of people from Central Asia and mountain tribes of the Caucase, therefore potentially with a good share of caucasoid profile.
And personally all Iranian people that I know (except the ones from SW of the country) are very similar to gypsy/romani, who are definitely caucasian, and apparently had originated in the same area.
And in fact all tribes that invaded Europe making Rome fall came from nearby areas too.

As for the ending, only explanation for MovieBob to not like it is, he was expecting it to be different from the game ending. And actually MovieBob, it was, or were you sleeping?!
In the game the villain doesn't die and that's what allows plot for the rest of the SoT trilogy.
 

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Cool I'm gonna go see it with my girlfriend when I visit her a month or so. :)

I liked the end of Lost, but I didn't LOVE the end of Lost. I can see why they did it, and how it makes sense, and yadda yadda, but I was hoping for something that I would love at the end. So much set up, not alot of actual follow through. Will I buy season six on dvd, yes. Will I go back periodically and rewatch the entirety of it, yes. Will it remain one of my all time favorite series, yes. Could the end have been better, oh god yes! It wasn't horrible, but it wasn't great either. Not like the end of ST:TNG which I loved!
 

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Puddle Jumper said:
Hey, Bob, here's a few good games based movies: Tomb Raider,

Euh ... Euh ... yeah, Tomb Raider. Maybe even Resident Evil: Apocalypse.

There's a lot more not bad movies though like In the Name of the King: A dungeon siege tale, Resident Evil, Mortal Kombat and a boatload more animated movies from Street Fighter to once again, Resident Evil.
Mortal Kombat? That was a god awful movie. Despite the fact it was based on a cheesy game.
Still, in the slew of movies based on videogames, Mediocrity shines at its best with Mortal Kombat. Annihilation is rock bottom of the shit-o-meter, but that's not the one I meant. The first one isn't bad. The fighting is good, the effects are passable, the soundtrack was awesome and it had some talented actors going for it.
 

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Prince of Persia

This week MovieBob takes a look at Alad...errr...I mean Prince of Persia.

For more from MovieBob, check out Intermission [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/columns/moviebob/7615-Stealing-From-the-Next-Generation].

Be sure to join Escape to the Movies Facebook Fan Page here [http://www.facebook.com/pages/Escape-to-the-Movies/374853431247].

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Can someone tell me if this has any spoilers in it? (I haven't played the game).
 

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I am looking forward to seeing it since I am a fan of the SOT story line and Think those are the best prince of persia games. Also one more thing screw lost that show sucks.
 

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Max Payne was the first good movie based on a game.
Once again Bob managed to completely miss the point and act self-important while doing the point-missing thing.
Edit: And also make several factual errors.
 

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The whitewashing thing really feels heavyhanded, though it does kinda weigh on the suspension of disbelief having so many people not looking quite middle-eastern around in a clearly middle-eastern setting.

But hey, it's still a Disney movie, so no surprises there.

And both Ben Kingsley and Gyllenhall are interesting actors.

... Bob, what about the Silent Hill movie? You could review the hell out of that one, eh?

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So you didn't like the ending to Lost, eh?
Lol, MovieBob should really do a review about that, though I don't know if tv critique is his thing.

I didn't like it either, but was still worthwhile, there's too much quality there to write the entire series off on account of a cop out finale.

Some net critic said it best: "I still rather watch a good show with a bad ending than to watch a bad show."
 

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Lost was just dragged out too long.

If any one watches British TV we just had an amazing series end, called Ashes to Ashes. The ending wasn't a cop out and it was actually really very good.
This is exactly what I was thinking. Also, I can't believe I thought the ending of Ashes to Ashes was sappy because a few characters say goodbye in the last 2 minutes. It was like the ending of resevoir dogs compared to Lost. And the ending made more sense, probably because the writers of Life on Mars knew how they were going to end it way back when they started and wrote the show accordingly, instead of the Lost method of writing, where you make it up as you go along.

Anyway, the Tomb Raider movies were good, weren't they? Where are they on the Transformers - Iron man scale?
 

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That's interesting. I had assumed that, as a pg-13 movie made by Disney out of a videogame that, in my mind, should have been rated R and done by anyone but Disney would be bad. It seems like it was pretty good then.
 

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Generally in cinema, characters speaking in british accents while not being british is to signify that they are speaking a foreign language.
 

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The thing about the british accent is that... THEY ALL HAVE BRITISH ACCENTS IN THE GAME! except for 2008 when they all sounded like whiny "american 20 somethings enjoying a frappacino" to quote yahtzee. so no big deal there for me. but i haven't seen it yet so I guess I will as long as it's not ruining my favorite game franchise
 

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Is it just the US that spells the adjective form of 'climax' with that second 'c', or can I just not spell?

Also: Woohoo, a good game movie!
 

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Overall I was pretty impressed. It was actually rather enjoyable. If you've played assassins creed and prince of persia you'll appreciate the film alot more as it gives little nods here and there and shows you all the good parts of those games. Which is basically what I wanted from the film.
 

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Is it is not terrible I am happy, love that game series so a competent film is fine by me.
 

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Technically, all the Dharma Initiative stuff was integral to Lost because
it could be argued that the sideways reality seen in the last season was created by the detonation of a bomb in the 1970s that permanently altered history in thousands of seen and unseen ways. Hence all the character differences, the numerous people still alive, and Michael and Walt not being there. Well, that and Walt is no longer an 8 year old in real life. The point is that they hyped up the religious/friendship element to make it seem more ambiguous.
 

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I suppose that climatic moment we all want will come from a movie of a game that actually warrants a movie. Something like MGS or Bioshock, games with textured plots. Of course both those games would need about 4 hours to tell just one of their stories but still.
 

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oh come on the lost ending was brilliant! (i'm not being sarcastic in any way) if they had explained everything on the island, people would have just bitched about that ending too. besides, lost has always at its heart been about the emotional journey of its characters who just happen to be on an island where a smoke monster and an immortal have a duel of ideologies and time travel.

oh yeah, and the POP movie i was shocked actually being legitimately good. the only real issue i had with it was the princess character being given absolutely nothing to do besides telling jake "we must go here to secure the dagger," a million different times.
 

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Probably going to go see it. From your review, it looks like it was going to be as good as I thought it was going to be.

I just don't understand one thing, Bob. On one hand you don't seem to mind that the movie's a throwback to stuff like 7th Voyage of Sinbad, The Thief of Baghdad, or Ali Baba and the Forty Thieves, and seemed to enjoy it, yet later you seem to fault it for the very same reason. It's confusing to have someone alternately praise and damn a film for the same reason.

RE: the "whitewashing." Don't care. Like others have said, it's a fantasy film, ergo it shouldn't really be striving for historic authenticity. I'm pretty happy with the casting and could care less if they were Persian or not.

As for the whole English accent thing, personally I believe the reason they chose to do that was simply because Hollywood thinks for some reason that if you're doing a period piece that isn't set in the U.S., having everyone go around speaking with an English accent somehow makes it seem "classy." Also because everyone in the PoP games also spoke with an English accent.

As to Lost: Don't care about that either and glad I didn't see it. I'm one of those people that was initially interested in it and stuck with it for the first few seasons, but the glacial pacing and the constant flashbacks annoyed me, and when it looked as if the writers were just pulling stuff out of their asses and didn't look like they had a coherent overall plan for the show, I just gave up on it. I had a feeling the finale would probably end up something like this and piss off a lot of people who had invested in the show, and it looks like I was right. I gave up on the rebooted Battlestar Galactica for similar reasons (specifically when they started referencing "All Along the Watchtower). And after having heard how the finale on that turned out, I was glad I jumped ship on that too. There's a point when a show stops being entertaining and starts getting pretentious and too caught up in itself, and it looks like that's what happened with both shows.

BTW, still waiting for your take on The Human Centipede, Bob. I'll tell you I finally found the courage to see it last weekend, and yes it is as sick, twisted and disturbing as the trailer made it out to be. But on the whole, I can't really completely dismiss it. Like you did with Jackie Earle Haley in Nightmare on Elm Street, I have to kind of isolate the performances of the two main actors Dieter Laser and Ashley Williams as they were great, even if the movie itself was the vilest thing ever committed to celluloid. But I'd be interested in hearing your opinion of it.
 

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I think I'll be watching it. I thought I posted in the last comments about the English flag, but apparently I didn't. I'm Scottish and I'm annoyed by it.
 

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The ban on whitewashing explained:

http://humblecomics.com/blog/index.php?entry=entry100524-195255

I disagree, I really doubt they have that cast because those were the best actors ever. I think those were the best actors who the biggest audience (Caucasian Americans) could identify with and that would draw the biggest numbers in(aka Jake Gyllenhal fan girls). But I'm not going to NOT see it for that reason alone. It looks pretty entertaining.
I have to agree. Gyllenhal is good but he's not that good. Most roles in Hollywood already go to Caucasians so seeing a bunch of Caucasians playing middle-eastern characters with obligatory english accents kind of sucks. When they start casting non-Caucasian actors for racially specific Caucasian roles, then maybe we can leave out the race issue. (wants to see black but still British James Bond). I don't think they decided, "no, we have to have Whitey play the principle characters", I think they thought, "Who is most likely to draw people to the theaters?" It's already got two strikes against it because it's a video game movie. It would also have been nice to see them use someone new and relatively unknown for the Prince; because white or not I can't buy Donnie Darko as the Prince, and I can't buy Persia with British accents. It's one part a racial let down and two parts authenticity. I won't avoid it just for the casting decisions, I'll avoid it more for the fact that the accent thing drives me crazy and I find Gyllenhal really annoying for some reason. Not as much as Tobey Maguire though...but he did make a cute beagle.
 

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I suppose that climatic moment we all want will come from a movie of a game that actually warrants a movie. Something like MGS or Bioshock, games with textured plots. Of course both those games would need about 4 hours to tell just one of their stories but still.
Yes, I can't wait for four hour (8 hour director's cut) cluster fuck of a plot from MGS. Some properties should just stay in their native format, much like Frank Herbert's Dune. Too much interwoven plot and internal narrative for film. MGS has too many plot twists and "oh shit" moments. It'd be four hours of robo-ninjas jumping sharks over nuked fridges.
 

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I guess the reason why the movie worked is because the games already play like movies.

I guess, in a way... It's like watching one BIG cinematic?!

You know how some games are like interactive movies? This movie is like a NON-interactive game.

Maybe it would had felt more Persian if it was narated by Omid Djalili



 

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From what I've seen of this movie it looks good, so I'm glad to hear a good review of it from movie bob. About the whole whitewash thing, yeah the main actor is Caucasian but you gotta admit he pulls off the part really well.
 

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Danglybits said:
TheNoirGuy said:
The ban on whitewashing explained:

http://humblecomics.com/blog/index.php?entry=entry100524-195255

I disagree, I really doubt they have that cast because those were the best actors ever. I think those were the best actors who the biggest audience (Caucasian Americans) could identify with and that would draw the biggest numbers in(aka Jake Gyllenhal fan girls). But I'm not going to NOT see it for that reason alone. It looks pretty entertaining.
I have to agree. Gyllenhal is good but he's not that good. Most roles in Hollywood already go to Caucasians so seeing a bunch of Caucasians playing middle-eastern characters with obligatory english accents kind of sucks. When they start casting non-Caucasian actors for racially specific Caucasian roles, then maybe we can leave out the race issue. (wants to see black but still British James Bond). I don't think they decided, "no, we have to have Whitey play the principle characters", I think they thought, "Who is most likely to draw people to the theaters?" It's already got two strikes against it because it's a video game movie. It would also have been nice to see them use someone new and relatively unknown for the Prince; because white or not I can't buy Donnie Darko as the Prince, and I can't buy Persia with British accents. It's one part a racial let down and two parts authenticity. I won't avoid it just for the casting decisions, I'll avoid it more for the fact that the accent thing drives me crazy and I find Gyllenhal really annoying for some reason. Not as much as Tobey Maguire though...but he did make a cute beagle.
In the game, the voice actors have British-ish accents. The man who voices the Prince in Sands of Time is white. And surprisingly enough, Gyllenhaal pulls the part off.
 

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Well, it's 'good' I guess.

Am I the only one who think this summer's movie line up look terrible? :(

Now that Iron Man 2 came out... it's all 'meh' stuff.
I thought Iron Man 2 sucked, there wasn't even a movie there, just a set up to The Avengers movie which won't be out for another 2-3 years if ever...-_-

As for Moviebob's reactions to a good video game movie tie-in, all I can say is you do know there's more to gaming than a couple first party franchises that's been made by Nintendo right?

Trust me, Prince of Persia is just as much apart of gaming as the mushroom kingdom, maybe you just needed to be a PC gamer in the 90s to know that....hmmmm

Wouldn't mind a good Zelda movie but how much you bet they'll be ripping a good portion off from LOTR...=/
 

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My dad and I were planning to see this.

Good to know we won't be wasting our money. :)

Thanks for reviewing it, MovieBob.
 

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I'm glad Bob thinks the movie is "good" which means it probably is. I've agreed with him on every movie he and I have both seen except Daybreakers (which was fucking terrible)

Based upon the tone of his review though, I really honestly get the feeling if the very first good video game movie *was* The Legend of Zelda, Bob would be making comparisons to Lord of the Rings and other Dark Ages movies during the whole review. Based on his tone, at least. Video games are trying to become more about the storytelling these days, I think it is to be expected the areas of video game stories and film stories might start overlapping a lot.
 

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i just watched it and thought it was pretty fantastic, don't really see the point of worrying about "whitewashing" the cast didn't ruin my enjoyment of the movie.

though on a side not, when moviebob rewinds the clip saying "in the spirit of things" shouldn't he have rewound it back a minute???
as the bit when he says it is at 3:06 so it should have went back to 2:06, but the clip he shows is actualy at 1:37... just saying is all....
 

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Haha, I laughed so hard at the live-action Mario pic you Photoshoped together. That was hillarious.

Anyway, great review. This is pretty much what I expected would happen. It's entertaining, but that's about it.

Cheers!
 

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This week MovieBob takes a look at Alad...errr...I mean Prince of Persia.
Any game that takes a large portion of their influence from movies and other media will be much easier to create than a game that get's it's influence else where because the movie of the game has essentially already been made, they just have to make it again. They have this mold from the early adventure movies and all that has to be done is fill in the characters names and perhaps shift the plot around a little bit for it to make a little more sense. Hey presto, average enough movie to sell well.

This means that a large number of modern games, such as Call of Duty: Modern Warfare, God of War, Mass Effect, Kane and Lynch, Left 4 Dead, Far Cry 2 (not to be confused with Far Cry which had the terrible movie made out of it), Gears of War and even Halo (which you seemed resolute in think will suck if made if I recall) could be made into decent enough movies given that they already are, pretty much movies. Stick the characters into the archetypal plot and a good enough movie exists. Have a decent enough director and writer and you can make a really good movie from lets say, Far Cry 2. Far Cry 2 borrows heavily from Apocalypse Now and Heart of Darkness, really heavily, but sets it in a modern conflict in Africa. A writer could easily create a story about a bunch of mercs going into Africa to kill this arms dealers with many beautiful scenic shots and plenty of good enough action. Blood Diamond was a bit like this and quite good I think. Keep people like Uwe Boll away from it and any movie based game movie will do well.

Games like Mario and Zelda could also have good movies based on them, but I still think they would need to follow other movies quite closely. That picture of shopped Mario movie you made, it looks just like Avatar, the Zelda one just like Lord of The Rings so what you would be getting is a more child oriented version of those movies if they want to stick close to the games, more adult if they want to branch out further.

To be honest I'm not sure if I'll like a game-movie made to fit a different kind of movie. Zelda might be considered fantasy but it isn't Lord of the Rings fantasy, merging the two just wont work. Same with Mario.

In the future we're going to see more movie based games based movies coming out. We actually already have Kane and Lynch which will be interesting to see and I wouldn't be surprised if the Halo film gets a revival. Bioshock might be good and I have high hopes for the Mass Effect movie. Time will tell I guess.
 

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I liked the ending of LOST-no matter how bubbly it was. Maybe I'm just a sucker for sentimentality.

but I digress.

Your opinion of this film actually seems to what I expected it to pan out. I haven't seen it though. .I am moderately irked by the casting just a bit. Not the actors-more like as you mentioned,it wasn't of the ethnicity. It seems to me that it just fits the summer movie mold and is nice and comfortable.
 

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I'm disappointed to see that there's no comments on its relevance to the video game itself, whether it be because you chose to view it purely on its own or because you haven't played the actual games, but it would have been nice.

Other than that, very satisfying review. I'm not sure if I'll see it and I probably won't but I might rent it out one day.
 

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Haha! oh movie bob! you crack me up, "He's the "Brownest"..." hahahahaha seriously funny.

I will still see this movie, i'm actually more excited than I was, but I just hope it's worth the money.
 

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one thing thats irks me a lot is that i hear so many people say video game movies are bad (and ya they almost all are) but one movie i have to defend is Hitman, ya know that movie staring Timothy Olyphant, im sure not many people will say they like that movie as much as me, but its a long way form being "bad" and i really enjoy it
I was just going to say that. Hitman is a really good movie, I enjoy it a lot. The first Mortal Kombat was good, too. The second was horrible, yes, but PoP is NOT the FIRST good video game movie.
 

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It's kind of you-already-know-how-it-ends movie. Still, it's much better than watching the Irish Robin Hood with Russell Crow :/
 

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Ok. Seriously. If you down own them, go pick up the SoT Trilogy from EB Games. They all come in 1 box, and it only cost about $30-$40AUD.

I im still thinking this movie will totally suck, I loved the SoT games. That over the top acrobatics and impossible fighting moves, they were just so damn good. Things like that just wouldnt work well on the big-screen, mainly because half the movie would be done with nothing but CGI.. Which isnt a bad thing in Avatar's case.

And there are a few things in that trailer that seem to have been stolen from other SoT games. It seems they have sort-of mashed them all into one movie. Like, why the fuck was a baddie using the Dagger-Tail (aka blade whip from The Two Thrones) that the Dark Prince used?

And this is just a little whine im having. Why did they give the Prince a name... Dastan.. Really? The Prince should never have a name, never did in the SoT trilogy, so why now? But it would be a bit stupid to have a movie with a nameless main character, which in Kill Bill's case actually worked. If they can call her "The Bride" in the credits, why cant he just be "The Prince".
 

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In the game, the voice actors have British-ish accents. The man who voices the Prince in Sands of Time is white. And surprisingly enough, Gyllenhaal pulls the part off.
I know they do, and the accents are just as stupid in game as they are in a movie. Same with Altaiir's American accent. Maybe less so, everyone in POP has a British accent but Altaiir seemed like the only one with an American accent.
 

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I've seen mixed reviews thus far. Still not sure if I'll see it myself, though I quite like Pop: TSoT on my GCN. Glad to hear you enjoyed it though Bob.
 

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You know, I really could go for a browniest right about now. But I don't have any, so I'll have to settle for a muffinish or a donutly.
 

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i saw it last night, it wasn't until about 5 minutes after the movie finished that i realised the whole 'good videogame adaptation' thing.
I thought about what made this one work as an adaption and then i realised it.
Story and characters.
With games, it's about the story, what is happening and not so much about the characters, because you are essentially the character. You are more interested in what's going to happen next, as opposed to what your character is going through.
With movies, we sometimes think in the same way (stop talking and get to the action already). but the good ones balance what is happening in the plot with how the characters are developing.
Bob said something similar in the avatar review, that the story was kept simple so people could focus on getting absorbed into pandora.
So the game's that can translate well are the ones that don't take complete focus of the characters while forwarding the story.

Upon writing this i realised that a 'no more heroes' movie would be AWESOME
 

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Surprisingly this movie is actually better than the game which isn't directly based on it but was instead just rushed to co-inside with its release. Really weird. We have a game that isn't movie based that got treated like it was movie based and we have the first ever good video game based movie and its like... not a big deal.

Bob's right, I think when everyone pictured "the first good video game movie" they expected a more main stream established franchise like Halo or Mario or something figuring out a clever way of being a good movie.

PoP essentially did the same thing as the first and third Resident Evil films, which was to keep the name and make a few very slight barely noticable references to the games, except unlike those movies this one managed to not turn out shit.
 

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Of all the unrealistic things that happen in that movie people felt the one to single out was the fact that the actors were white?
 

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I liked the ending, but I did feel it kinda killed most of the sequel potential.
 

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As for the English accent thing- here's my guess.

I think that English accents make it easy to demonstrate differences in class. Think about it- you hear a cockney accent, you automaticaly know what class it is.


PS- please say "Eeeeeraaaahn" not "Eye-ran"
 

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Hey, where is your avatar from? I got a childhood flashback when I saw it, but I can't pinpoint why.
Oh she is Leen from the PS1 game Grandia. Love the game! Grandia and Xenogears turned me into a Gamer, you know, instead of watching my big bro play.
 

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And this is just a little whine im having. Why did they give the Prince a name... Dastan.. Really? The Prince should never have a name, never did in the SoT trilogy, so why now? But it would be a bit stupid to have a movie with a nameless main character, which in Kill Bill's case actually worked. If they can call her "The Bride" in the credits, why cant he just be "The Prince".
You mean Beatrix Kiddo?
 

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MovieBob brings up a good idea... in passing. Perhaps Hyrule would look pretty good in live action. Who the hell would play Link... Matt Damon?
 

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Someone's probably already said this but the British accent thing could just be a reference to the games, where I think he was given that accent to make him fit a more intellectual stereotype for the American audiences (before you get angry Americans, think about all the movies where characters that are thought of as more intelligent are given British accents. Hell, think of every scientist or whatever that has been given that accent in a movie).

Also, despite the spoiler warnings, WHY GIVE AWAY THE ENDING TO SOMETHING I HAVEN'T GOT AROUND TO WATCHING YET? I appreciate that the final episode has been released and all but I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one when I say I haven't caught up on every TV show I've wanted to watch because I've been studying or working instead.
 

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Fortesque said:
And this is just a little whine im having. Why did they give the Prince a name... Dastan.. Really? The Prince should never have a name, never did in the SoT trilogy, so why now? But it would be a bit stupid to have a movie with a nameless main character, which in Kill Bill's case actually worked. If they can call her "The Bride" in the credits, why cant he just be "The Prince".
You mean Beatrix Kiddo?
Yeah, But they only gave her a name in Part 2. In the first, she was only known as "The Bride".
 

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Wow. I made a point of never caring about Lost. Partly due to not wanting to get sucked into hundreds of hours worth of 'epic' cliffhan..err, storytelling, and partly because I watched the first two-three episodes when it first debuted and didn't get the allure.

But this just made me *really* glad that I never got into Lost.

Also, guess this is a rental. If I'm bored and there's nothing amazing to watch.
 

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The more I think about it, the more I realize that this really was destined to not be a bad movie. Good review Bob.

Though I do have one little thing that has been bugging me. The Halo movie. Think about if Neil Blomkamp directed the movie in the exact same fashion he did District 9. Aparently the story with the books wasn't half bad, and the video game offers some great and nifty special effects that can be done, so why not?

Its got all the good elements, like an apocalypse, aliens, and a bad ass protagonist. Plus, they could maybe go at an angle where the focus on a less important character who is shadowing Master Chief. I think they would be able to pull something good out of it. Take my word, because I didnt even like the games to much.
 

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holy crap... is that really how lost ends... God I hate TV...

typical current day Scifi:

Character 1 to Character 2: "wow look at that out there! easily the most interesting and refreshing scifi premise I've seen in a while!"

Character 2: "oh yes. interesting... but who cares about that. how are YOU feeling..."

*the remaining 59 minutes of show is entirely uninteresting and irrelevant 'character building'*
 

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Cool, I'll see it then, IMDB and RT had me worried, it seems video game adaptations will always carry an annoying stigma..No reviewer seems to be able to review it independently.
 

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Lost was about religion. Sci-fi was just a good cover. I'm sorry you couldn't see it from the moment Mr.Eko opened his mouth.

Ps. Moviebob, if you read these(Which you dont) your pretty on the ball with most things. Ive watched damn near everything youve had to say, and this is the second time Ive disagreed with you. Not bad.
 

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Also I'd like to say something I've said many times over

PERSIANS. Are. WHITE.

Not even the game portrays Persians as tanned or brown, I just finished forgotten sands and the prince is completely white.

WingedFortress said:
Lost was about religion. Sci-fi was just a good cover. I'm sorry you couldn't see it from the moment Mr.Eko opened his mouth.

Ps. Moviebob, if you read these(Which you dont) your pretty on the ball with most things. Ive watched damn near everything youve had to say, and this is the second time Ive disagreed with you. Not bad.
Moviebob is right. Lost finale was a ridiculous joke.
 

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THAT SAID the thing about "destiny" at the beginning and end. Anyone else think it was a shittier version of the "time is an ocean in a storm" speech from the game?
People think time is like a river, that it flows swift and sure in one direction. But I have seen the face of time and I can tell you... it's more like a big ball of wibbily-wobbily... timey-wimey... stuff.
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Honestly, for all the whining, I don't think the hypothetical guy who should have gotten this role actually exists.
Oded Fehr doesn't think you exist either!
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As for the ending, only explanation for MovieBob to not like it is, he was expecting it to be different from the game ending. And actually MovieBob, it was, or were you sleeping?!
In the game the villain doesn't die and that's what allows plot for the rest of the SoT trilogy.
Yes, but that's because he was ressurected in the third game when the Prince created a Time Paradox in the second; do keep up.
Fortesque said:
And this is just a little whine im having. Why did they give the Prince a name... Dastan.. Really? The Prince should never have a name, never did in the SoT trilogy, so why now? But it would be a bit stupid to have a movie with a nameless main character, which in Kill Bill's case actually worked. If they can call her "The Bride" in the credits, why cant he just be "The Prince".
The man's name is Kakacocoapuffs. And when you say his name a door will open.
 

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Vitor Goncalves said:
As for the ending, only explanation for MovieBob to not like it is, he was expecting it to be different from the game ending. And actually MovieBob, it was, or were you sleeping?!
In the game the villain doesn't die and that's what allows plot for the rest of the SoT trilogy.
Yes, but that's because he was ressurected in the third game when the Prince created a Time Paradox in the second; do keep up.
The vizir was not ressurected in game, prince made time go back, to when the vizir was still alive. The difference is in the movie the uncle plot is unmasked as soon as the events resume and he end up being executed there, while in the game the vizir is left to live enough to justify the sequel.
 

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Bob, I think you've utterly and completely hit the nail on the head regarding video games getting made into films with the statement about "rising to the challenge." The problem with video games now is that they incorporate so many cinematic elements that making them into films is almost a step back if not standing right on the line. Back in the 16-bit (and earlier) days, the games didn't have "cinematic" elements, so there was more of a challenge involved in adapting them to the big screen. Sometimes it works, but most times not. Even then, when it works, it works because, to paraphrase what you said once before, "it has its guts ripped out" and replaced with recycled material. For example, the plot of the Mortal Kombat game doesn't lend itself all that well to a film, so its plot is replaced with that of Enter the Dragon.

Maybe we have to just accept the fact that it's entirely possible we've waited too long to adapt some of our favorite and most popular games into movies. The only video game film I'd ever get genuinely excited over is that once-hyped-but-now-revealed-as-just-a-rumored Metroid film with Ang Lee attached (of course, I'm one of those weirdos who really liked Ang Lee's version of The Hulk). Ah, well....
 

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Huh...well damn, now I'm gonna have to go see it! >.<

As for the 'whitewashing' thing, I'm gonna go with 'they hate the main character's BLUE EYES.' I think that's the proverbial straw that broke the camel's back. Most other traits can be glossed over or hand-waved away, but blue eyes is quite the deal-breaker.

Also, I just realized that the spellchecker on this site accepts 'gonna' as a word...huh.
 

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Vitor Goncalves said:
RestamSalucard said:
Vitor Goncalves said:
As for the ending, only explanation for MovieBob to not like it is, he was expecting it to be different from the game ending. And actually MovieBob, it was, or were you sleeping?!
In the game the villain doesn't die and that's what allows plot for the rest of the SoT trilogy.
Yes, but that's because he was ressurected in the third game when the Prince created a Time Paradox in the second; do keep up.
The vizir was not ressurected in game, prince made time go back, to when the vizir was still alive. The difference is in the movie the uncle plot is unmasked as soon as the events resume and he end up being executed there, while in the game the vizir is left to live enough to justify the sequel.
What? The Vizer DIED! The Prince went back in time and ***** slapped him with his sword, he falls over with an overly dramatic, "I could have been... immortal..." and he DIED! The only reason he exists in 3 is because the Prince prevented the sands from being created in the past in 2, preventing the Prince from finding and unleashing the sands, but also preventing said ***** slapping. Therefore the Vizer is still alive and has taken over India, allowing him to invade Persia in 3. I mean, did we play the same games or are you just retarded?
 

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As always, a very good review. I saw the movie yesterday and my thoughts towards it were exactly the same as yours. So thumbs up for that.

But what the hell is your guys problem with the final episode of Lost? It ended just like it began, with a lot of unanswered questions. Which to me is far better than answering all those questions in the final episode. It would be an information overflow if they did it like that. But how they actually did it, lets all viewers put their imagination into the series and have their very own ending.

Hope you understand my opinion. And Bob, looking very forward to the next episode^^

Greets,
OmikronApex
 

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"First genuinely good video game movie?" That's what I said about Mortal Kombat (what?), Resident Evil, Silent Hill... and in that order! I'm not prepared to say that about this movie because I feel like there have been good adaptions of video games to movies that were both loyal to the game concept, and fun/interesting to watch.
 

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Yeah, Yatzee pretty much covered the Persians don't sound Persian theme a while back - although in that case it was too American rather than too British.
 

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I just have to check this one out, a Diehard Prince of Persia fan HAS to sees this and give it's own judgement.
 

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UtopiaV1 said:
I think you stuck your neck out there for no reason, don't be suprised if someone bites you for it. Don't forget Judaism is a religion, not an ethnicity.
JUDAISM is a religion. However, the term used was "The Jewish Peoples," which much of anthropology classifies as a "race" - if not also an "ethnicity" - originating in the Middle East (note that the map depicts a period and area of the ancient Middle East, not the modern state of Israel) and subsequently migrating throughout the rest of the world; though one recognizes that this is one of those areas where the actual "split" between seperate cultures and seperate races is increasingly nebulous.

Primarily, it's in there because I found it interesting that Gyllenhaal is recieving the lion's share of grief over the film's casting of "white" actors in Middle Eastern and/or Persian roles, when in the not-too-distant past he wouldn't have been considered "white" to begin with (neither would any of the main cast except for Gemma Arterton, really.)
Oh good, for some reason I thought you'd circled Israel and I was all ready to hear the announcement you'd been kidnapped by extremists etc. Still, I suppose I overreacted, it's just like saying that most Americans originate from here:


Closing note, I think it's great that the lines between white and not-white are blurring, hopefully it'll make people more accepting of other people and cultures, and then we can all live in a world of rainbows and lollipops and children dancing with gumdrop smiles. Seriously, I really hope that's the case.
 

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Lost ended?
Yeah right....
Soon you'll probably see some lame commercial where every one is back on the island again (again).
No we won't.

They're all dead now

Anyway, I thought the movie was great fun. It's the first movie that I'm actually proud to say to people that it was based on a video game.
 

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Funny thing, the 'whitewashing' in this movie actually makes a certain amount of sense. Geneologically speaking, the ancient Persians were actually indo-eurupean, and primarily caucasian.

Same thing with The Last Airbender, actually. The Water Tribe is really the only group with a legitimately non-white appearence- mostly it's just a matter of hairstyles.
 

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The ending screen around the subtitles that spoilers the movie made me forget about going to see it. Thanks for keeping me off movies I won't like, MovieBob.
 

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there were two ancient persian empires, the first pagan one was the biggest one and that was the picture of the map. there are no facts about how people in that empire looked. the 300 movie is based about that persian empire and thats why they look ridicouls.

the second persian empire who was not much smaller, and was in the medieval ages, after Persia turned muslim. there calture and there clothes became like that arabs (people from the arabic half Isle) who ones ruled Persia and converted them to Islam. The prince of persia movie might be based about that empire because that if you look at the characters they look like muslims from movies about crusades.

about the fact that the charactares don't have a persian accent i have two things to say.
one: ancient medieval persian and modern persian are so completly differnet that it would be completly pointless
two: if the charcters did have persian accents it wouldn't make the movie any more realistic (since tha characters would still be talking in English), it would just make it harder for people to understand what the charcters are saying since they all have accents.

last thing: I loved this movie when i watched it and i also loved the video games
 

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That you for the spoiler warning. You have no idea how much those things mean to me personally.

The final episode of Lost hasn't been showed in here (Finland) yet.
 

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I don't understand what's happened here. Am I in an alternate universe?

I saw the Prince of Persia film on Wednesday and I thought the film sucked. Not even because it's meant to be based on the game, just as a film I think it was terrible.

Beginning of the film was just Aladdin.

Middle of the film was Assassins Creed (They totally stole one of the scenes from Assassins Creed when you uncover more of the map)

And the ending was pointless.



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In a sense, according to the movie, all that happened was he became a Prince, stormed a Holy City and got married to the Princess. All the other stuff didn't "really" happen. It's not clever and it's been done a thousand times. They even state in the film that you could rewind time endlessly but it would destroy the world. But it was okay to rewind time for that certain period to put him back at the battle at the beginning?

I don't see how anyone can see this movie as being "good"...
 

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I don't understand what's happened here. Am I in an alternate universe?

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In a sense, according to the movie, all that happened was he became a Prince, stormed a Holy City and got married to the Princess. All the other stuff didn't "really" happen. It's not clever and it's been done a thousand times. They even state in the film that you could rewind time endlessly but it would destroy the world. But it was okay to rewind time for that certain period to put him back at the battle at the beginning?

I don't see how anyone can see this movie as being "good"...
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it's not about what "really" happened or not, it's about seeing a movie. in the movie the stuff that didn't "really" happen were interesting (to my opinion), the characters were good enough and the effects were nice.

even though your right and most of the movie didn;t "really" happen, you did see it in the movie and so wether or not it happened has no point for it as a movie.

about the fact that rewinding time can destroy the world and that he rewinded it to the very begining without doing so, your completly right it's a huge fuck in the movie. but think about it this way, the bad guy wanted to rewind it many years back, while desmond rewinded a couple of days, so he didn't use that much sand.

i see this movie as good simply because i liked it, its my opinion that this movie is good, just like its your opinion that it isn't.

your right that there is a lot to hate if you look at it, but there is also a lot to like
 

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Why does everyone forget that [HEADING=2]SILENT HILL[/HEADING] was a videogame movie, and a damn good one at that.
 

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well, I'm getting the feeling moviebob is a bit...jaded.
He's seeing stuff that isn't there: allegory to the Iraq mwd thing? maybe...or maybe they just thought it was a sweet plot element.
And the lack of minority actors? well, it'd look pretty strange if half the cast was white, and half the cast wasn't, but the story wanted you to think they were all of the same ethnicity.
Maybe jaded isn't the word? I remember his Book of Eli review, and he was wrong, the God thing didn't detract from the film.
 

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No we won't.

They're all dead now

Anyway, I thought the movie was great fun. It's the first movie that I'm actually proud to say to people that it was based on a video game.
This might seem far-fetched to some people, but they can always do this:
They're all dead. Or are they? Find out what really happened! Same bat time, same bat channel!
Seriously, they can do anything from spin-offs to alternate endings if they were being paid for it.
 

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I honestly don't understand what everyone's deal is with "whitewashing." I think if you have an actor that is good in a role it shouldn't matter what color he is.
It's about authenticity.
Some (silly) people might claim is has something to do with racism, but really: It's about authenticity.
Ancient Persia would have been populated by Persians, so have a Persian Cast makes it more believable. You can't say Slumdog Millionaire would have been nearly as good is the cast was all Asian. Or that any movie portraying the Yakuza as African guys would be believable. The point of a movie is to tell a story, and you grip people into a story with atmosphere. The proper ethnicity really helps that atmosphere.

It's not a deal breaker, mind you (Not for the sane, or people who have any inkling of an imagination), but it really does help the immersion of the tale unfolding on the big screen in front of you.
its not just about authenticity for me it is also about effort, the fact that they took practically staple hollywood actors instead of going the extra mile, means something. the movie will give off a vibe that its just another movie on the hollywood mass production conveyor belt.

what i am trying to say basically is that why should i bother with a movie when the makers themselves didn't bother with it.

then again the "prince of persia" franchise isn't the most complex in regards to story in the gameing world, so i guess this kind of movie is nothing if not appropriate. so i am not so peeved about the "whitewashing" issue, i am still going to see it when it comes out on dvd since bob thinks its the first good "game" movie.

however if the source material had been from something other than a game, like an old myth or a book or even a game that was deeper, then i would have agreed that the "whitewashing" would be lazy and ignorant
 

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I can only feel a slight joy that MovieBob feels indifferent about it being a 'good' videogame movie, and this is because it shows that people don't look at games in the way of them being for kids. Maybe i'm being too general here, but the fact that MovieBob describes briefly that the movie and the game are basically based on older movies (and are inevitably LIKE the movies) shows that he, along with quite possibly many other people, do not view them as a shallow and one-dimensional pastime like they might have 20 years ago. It shows that games are getting roughly the same respect as movies.

This is also shown in the way of the videogame movies. In the time where these movies were getting started, they all showed (Street Fighter, Super Mario Brothers, The Wizard if you count that) a more juvenile approach to creating it, and therefore, were stupid and embarrasing. Around Mid-point, they showed an ATTEMPT at appealing to a more adult audience (Resident Evil, Doom and Mortal Kombat ONE). To the most recent, which seem to embrace an adult audience and reflect that in themes and plot with films like Silent Hill, Tomb Raider... (yes, I liked that film) and quite possibly Prince of Persia.
 

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I'll have to see for myself how "LOST" ended, but if it's anything like you described then I can't say I'm surprised. Nothing can ever live up to the hype of itself and so the ending would always be a little contrived because your expectations are raised (remember how "Doomsday Arcade" ended? I mean, it wasn't horrible but still, you get the picture).

On the original topic of "Prince Of Persia", I still think I'll give it a miss. Somehow it feels old, like it's been done 100 times before and this is just plowing the same furrow (which as you pointed out it kinda does).

Also, the best game-based-on-a-movie is the mythical "Oddworld" movie, which has been rumoured to "still be in production" since "Abe's Exodus", although if you want something more modern I think "Bioshock" would be pretty good, as long as it's directed by someone who "gets" the franchise and doesn't cut corners or mess around with the time line just to please the douchebags who don't.
 

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Oh wow. No stupid pictures or text that pops up for a split second, no really blurry quality fuck ups- I think these are getting better moviebob. If only you can get into discussing the actual movie a bit more. Like the plot. Or the characters. Or how good the actors were. That sort of thing.
 

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WHITE WASHING:
dear Bob,

you did not realize that Jews are a religion community NOT an ethnical group, like Ben Kingsley is half-Indian.
If you said it´s the "white guy" actually being half-Israli or -Iranian etc. would be accurate.
 

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To be fair, the Lost ending was always going to suck compared to the Ashes to Ashes ending. Man, that was good.

Might see this, I would like to play SoT though.
 

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The whole sixth season of Lost was pretty much disappointing, but that doesn't mean the series as a whole is bad, I can honestly say episodes such as "The Constant" or "Walkabout" are better than most Hollywood movies.

I loved the first Matrix and didn't quite like the sequels, but those extra two movies didn't ruin the first one for me, the writers should have ended the show with Jughead exploding, that's a ballsy ending :)

As for POP I didn't hate it and that Gemma Arterton girl sure looks nice.
 

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I think Alexander Siddig would have made a good Prince.

But he isn't from the ME either, he is Sudanese.
 

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Prince of Persia

This week MovieBob takes a look at Alad...errr...I mean Prince of Persia.

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Haven't seen it yet, but I'm sure it will have been a better experience if the "Prince" of Persia started out, as he did in the game, as a Prince. Arrogant, brash, milding irritating, loses it all and is thrust into a world he must come to terms with, while at the same time growing as a person to rescue his father and the girl he meets in the chaos.

Not force-feeding us a cookie-cutter protagonist in the form of a repurposed street urchin model that would have been better suited for Uwe Boll flick, but hey...that's Disney! I've seen Aladdin...I'll wait for video.

Top 2 movies on a game are Wing Commander (precursor to the new BSG style guide) and House of the Dead 2 (yes, it was terrible, but the kind you'll watch again, and Ed Quinn is kinda awesome).
 

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k-ossuburb said:
I'll have to see for myself how "LOST" ended, but if it's anything like you described then I can't say I'm surprised. Nothing can ever live up to the hype of itself and so the ending would always be a little contrived because your expectations are raised (remember how "Doomsday Arcade" ended? I mean, it wasn't horrible but still, you get the picture).
Actually, the ending is pretty much exactly like how Doomsday Arcade ended.
 

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More likely to be those in Britain but not English to be offended. Scotland, Ireland (I am unsure which half, forgive me), Wales. It's a sort of petty nationalism we've all got going on.
 

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Samoftherocks said:
Top 2 movies on a game are Wing Commander (precursor to the new BSG style guide) and House of the Dead 2 (yes, it was terrible, but the kind you'll watch again, and Ed Quinn is kinda awesome).
I didn't see any House of the Dead movies, but Wing Commander? Seriously?
 

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I'm just posting here to say how pissed off I also was at the ending of Lost.

It was such a let down.

Also, you apologised for mixing up the flags, then used the phrase "British Accent" which is a rather touchy subject ;D
Yes. When in fact it is an English accent. As there is no such thing as a British Acce