Yes they are all in continuity with I suppose Daniel Craig being the exception as it is an origin story set after the time period of the other films but as books they all are.daxterx2005 said:
Escape to the Movies: Skyfall
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That motorcycle vs. bridge stunt (the way he gets on the train in the beginning sequence) was probably one of the most awesome stunts ever thought out. The dream of everyone who has ever crushed his/her bicycle into the curb.
I loved it but is it just me or is Daniel Craig starting to look a little old for the part? I think he could still do another one but if they wait too long then they will have the same problem that Roger Moore had. He looked like he needed a wheel chair and a tank of oxygen in A View to a Kill.
This review couldn't mirror my feelings any more.
I'm also glad that I get classified as a real James Bond fan as I didn't like the last two movies for the reason that they clearly weren't Bond movies.
Sometimes it's good to stick to the old formula because the old formula is god damn AWESOME.
I'm also glad that I get classified as a real James Bond fan as I didn't like the last two movies for the reason that they clearly weren't Bond movies.
Sometimes it's good to stick to the old formula because the old formula is god damn AWESOME.
I think that one was where Moore was embarrassed that he was old enough to be his female co-stars grandfather. Moore's run wasn't exactly dignifiedGizmo1990 said:
I think it is safer to view Casino Royale and Quantum of Solace as something that we never really got in the 007 Franchise: an origin story.
His first kill(s) as an agent. His first 00 assignment. His first Bond girl. His first mistake with a Bond girl (i.e. becoming more emotionally involved). His first overcompensating rebound (the dead MI-6 girl and his utter disregard for her tragic and violent death in QoS). His first cabal of nefarious evil-doers (I do hope we see Quantum, which was portrayed as the new SPECTURE, come back in a future installment).
And Skyfall, which I haven't seen yet but will do so within the next 24 hours, likely puts the last few pieces into place. The new Q, Bond's swagger and confidence, a gentlemen's facade over what can only be described as a sociopathic killing machine... oh, and a lair (I hope). You've got to have some kind of lair.
His first kill(s) as an agent. His first 00 assignment. His first Bond girl. His first mistake with a Bond girl (i.e. becoming more emotionally involved). His first overcompensating rebound (the dead MI-6 girl and his utter disregard for her tragic and violent death in QoS). His first cabal of nefarious evil-doers (I do hope we see Quantum, which was portrayed as the new SPECTURE, come back in a future installment).
And Skyfall, which I haven't seen yet but will do so within the next 24 hours, likely puts the last few pieces into place. The new Q, Bond's swagger and confidence, a gentlemen's facade over what can only be described as a sociopathic killing machine... oh, and a lair (I hope). You've got to have some kind of lair.
Surprisingly enough, Bond hasn't adapted well to the post-cold war era. The Pierce Brosnan Bond spent two movies (Goldeneye and the World is Not Enough) effectively cleaning up remnants of the Cold War.
The other two (the often-overlooked Tomorrow Never Dies and Die Another Day) were effectively nostalgia trips to the standard "try to get the US and Soviets to start a hot war" with different, less urgent players and motivations. Tomorrow Never Dies had a media mogul trying to start a war between the UK and China in order to expand his East-Asia media holdings, although I admit he was my favorite Bond villain. In Die Another Day, you had a North Korean nationalist and son of a top general developing weapons capable of crossing the Korean DMZ in order to invade South Korea.
The new Danial Craig Bond was the first real post-Cold War Bond. The first villain in Casino Royale was a investment banker to terrorists and revolutionaries. A villain for sure, but he was fundamentally no more than an increasingly desperate millionaire with a handful of well-paid henchmen. The scene where the Congolese hitsquad goes after him and nearly kills him and his girlfriend made his considerably less menacing than past villains in the franchise, who tended to be portrayed as "untouchables" (hence why Bond was involved).
The second villain in Quantum of Solace was the first real Bond villain, who was acting as an agent of Quantum and duping both MI-6 and the CIA into thinking they were after oil, but were after something far more basic and precious: water. Like he banker, he was more of a corporate villain, but was truly untouchable thanks to the protection from Quantum. It was emblematic of the new era of villainy that started with Tomorrow Never Dies: it's about the money.
Granted, there had been corporate villains before, such as Zorin in A View to a Kill, but they were always in some way tied to the Cold War or were trying, in some way, to start a doomsday scenario. With the Cold War gone, the new Craig Bond villains sufficiently resemble the modern forms of corporate greed and terrorism.
The other two (the often-overlooked Tomorrow Never Dies and Die Another Day) were effectively nostalgia trips to the standard "try to get the US and Soviets to start a hot war" with different, less urgent players and motivations. Tomorrow Never Dies had a media mogul trying to start a war between the UK and China in order to expand his East-Asia media holdings, although I admit he was my favorite Bond villain. In Die Another Day, you had a North Korean nationalist and son of a top general developing weapons capable of crossing the Korean DMZ in order to invade South Korea.
The new Danial Craig Bond was the first real post-Cold War Bond. The first villain in Casino Royale was a investment banker to terrorists and revolutionaries. A villain for sure, but he was fundamentally no more than an increasingly desperate millionaire with a handful of well-paid henchmen. The scene where the Congolese hitsquad goes after him and nearly kills him and his girlfriend made his considerably less menacing than past villains in the franchise, who tended to be portrayed as "untouchables" (hence why Bond was involved).
The second villain in Quantum of Solace was the first real Bond villain, who was acting as an agent of Quantum and duping both MI-6 and the CIA into thinking they were after oil, but were after something far more basic and precious: water. Like he banker, he was more of a corporate villain, but was truly untouchable thanks to the protection from Quantum. It was emblematic of the new era of villainy that started with Tomorrow Never Dies: it's about the money.
Granted, there had been corporate villains before, such as Zorin in A View to a Kill, but they were always in some way tied to the Cold War or were trying, in some way, to start a doomsday scenario. With the Cold War gone, the new Craig Bond villains sufficiently resemble the modern forms of corporate greed and terrorism.
Quantum of... what?
I saw that in the theater, and quite literally, the only thing I can even vaguely remember seems to involve an emergency fire ax. And I may have made that up to make the movie seem more interesting than it actually was.
OT: Ah, good: a Bond film worth seeing. It's never been my favourite series, but it's still fairly reliable entertainment in its own right. Casino Royale had that, QoS lost it, it's nice to hear Skyfall got it back.
I saw that in the theater, and quite literally, the only thing I can even vaguely remember seems to involve an emergency fire ax. And I may have made that up to make the movie seem more interesting than it actually was.
OT: Ah, good: a Bond film worth seeing. It's never been my favourite series, but it's still fairly reliable entertainment in its own right. Casino Royale had that, QoS lost it, it's nice to hear Skyfall got it back.
*Shoots you with the Golden Gun. Cue opening [http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=QJMj4sw7fNs#t=22s]*DVS BSTrD said:
My thoughts to the letter. I also want to thank Bob for putting his finger on why Casino Royale really didn't work for me (Never saw Quantum). I get why people like the new Bond, with the deeper character and more realistic action, but if I wanted that I'd go see a Bourne film or one of the dozens of other action films good and bad that have come out since. When I go to a James Bond film, I go expecting a James Bond film, not a Bourne rip-off.CynicalB said:
Skyfall is easily my favorite Bond movie. But I also like Daniel Craig as Bond more than any of the previous actors so I might not be the authority on the subject. But it's my opinion.
Weird, I enjoyed more than the others because it seemed less like a traditional Bond movie. It had all of the surface stuff but it was the first to have deeper themes (the one you mentioned and the relationship between Bond and M) and characters who I felt emotionally invested in.
Daniel Craig, Javier Bardem, Ralph Fiennes, Ben Whishaw and Judi Dench.
This could be the newest Adam Sandler movie instead of the latest Bond film, I would still be excited. All spy/action stuff is just icing on the cake at this point.
This could be the newest Adam Sandler movie instead of the latest Bond film, I would still be excited. All spy/action stuff is just icing on the cake at this point.
It's really a good movie. The only thing wrong is actually Craig. Not that he is a bad actor, but because he has become to old for that type of roles. He just looks out of place.
Even though he has a contract for two more films, I would say that they should get an other bond.
Even though he has a contract for two more films, I would say that they should get an other bond.
Dammit now I have four movies I need to go see in the theater but have zero opportunity to do so...
Thanks Bob..
Thanks Bob..
"Its good to have James Bond back".
Sorry to bust your bubble MovieBoB but James Bond never left and has not been better since the days of Timothy Dalton. Contrary to popular belief James Bond was never meant to be slap stick nonsense which is what happened when Roger Moore's era took the reins and was always portrayed as thriller spy stories in the vein of Dalton and Craig's movies.
Go read the original Casino Royale and you will see just how true to the original bond these movies are.
Sorry to bust your bubble MovieBoB but James Bond never left and has not been better since the days of Timothy Dalton. Contrary to popular belief James Bond was never meant to be slap stick nonsense which is what happened when Roger Moore's era took the reins and was always portrayed as thriller spy stories in the vein of Dalton and Craig's movies.
Go read the original Casino Royale and you will see just how true to the original bond these movies are.
Not really, he still younger then any other James Bond actor, that were there for more then one movie, at the time of their last movie in the series. So only George Lazenby, who also happen to have been the youngest actor to take the role, since he was 30 at the time of his first and only James Bond movie release.Gizmo1990 said:
-Sean Connery, 51 at release of Diamond Are Forever.
-Roger Moore, 58 at release of A View to Kill.
-Timothy Dalton, 45 at release of License to Kill (admit this one is disputable since some official source make write is birth year has 46 instead of 44, which would put him 1 year younger then Graig, but he also should have been in one more movie, if there had not been 5 year delay for GoldenEye due to lawsuit, but then we wouldn't have got GoldenEye on N64 without those delay, hmmm not sure what to think about that situation...)
-Pierce Brosman, 49 at release of Die Another Day.
-Daniel Graid, 44 at release of Skyfall.
So I say he still got one or two movies possible under his belt.
