Escape to the Movies: Spring Breakers

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Xman490 said:
Wow, 2 hours in and there are already over 60 comments? I bet they're about confusion regarding what makes this movie so special that Bob and other critics find it at least intriguing; I guess it has to be seen to be believed.

*checks comments* Really, guys? A large fraction of you care about the reference of MLP:FIM in this? Hasn't the fandom sorta died down?
Died down? Not really, In between seasons 3 and 4. Waiting it out and making content/doing charities like we always have. Just less vocal minorities fighting it out with half-ass opinions and poorly written/voiced words as it should be. Even if it helped with the fan base's growth, it is not something to be proud to look back too...for both sides.
 

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lesterley said:
So, is this movie going to make ANY sense to a 46-year-old GenX-er like myself? Because I'm still trying to understand the appeal of Napoleon Dynamite.
Leslee! I thought I might be the oldest person here at The Escapist at age 44. I thought I was definitely the oldest Texan that still actively games and produces dopey humorous game-related content for the internet. Now all I have is my appreciation for Napoleon Dynamite. Way to kill my dreams.
 

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Xman490 said:
Wow, 2 hours in and there are already over 60 comments? I bet they're about confusion regarding what makes this movie so special that Bob and other critics find it at least intriguing; I guess it has to be seen to be believed.

*checks comments* Really, guys? A large fraction of you care about the reference of MLP:FIM in this? Hasn't the fandom sorta died down?
I don't like to keep tabs on what the majority of the fandom does, as I don't really care. I can only answer for myself, this movie about dudebro spring break debauchery is the last place I'd expect to find anything having to do with MLP, thus I am intrigued. It just added one more reason to maybe check out the movie, and I always like watching these things to see what exactly may be there to make it "deep".
 

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Jack_in_the_green said:
Well, it's not a surprise Movie Bob did find also "Suckerpunch" to be a "great" movie.... So desperately trying to find any substance when there is none, it's reeaally pathetic.
Robot Number V said:
Sorry Bob, but that sounds pretentious as FUCK. And this wouldn't be the first time you went nuts over a movie that turned out to be a near miss for me. Sometimes you kind of....ignore a film's problems if you really like the idea they were GOING FOR, even if they didn't quite pull it off. (Sucker Punch, Daybreakers, and Splice, for example.) I have a pretty strong feeling that this is one of those.
Oh, and obligatory "In my opinion" statement. Although the fact that everything I just said is my opinion should really just be assumed.
Like all those reviewers praising "Spec Ops: The Line" for its story.
After all, it's really just a mediocre 3rd person shooter where the evil American Empire strikes again against brown people.

Nope. Nothing deeper than that.

;)
Well actually, I think Spec OPs had some pretty serious problems as well, but that's a different discussion. Look, I saw Sucker Punch. I thought it did a lot of things surprisingly well, and I thought it had a lot of problems. I also think it didn't quite succeed in what it set out to do (according to Bob, anyway). Just because a movie (or game or what have you) is deeper then it first appears, that doesn't somehow make it impervious to criticism. Obviously a lot of people saw Sucker Punch, totally the missed the point, and passed it off as a shallow, teenage boy-pandering action-porno. But I got the point, and I still think it had some pretty serious problems. In short, "You just didn't get it" is NOT a valid response to any criticism leveled at the movie. Or game, as the case may be. Hell, even Bob said as much in his Sucker Punch analysis.
 

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Your review was linked on Equestria Daily for the Spring Breakers pony reference Bob.

You guys might want to prepare for a few more of us than usual. You've been warned =P.

http://www.equestriadaily.com/2013/03/ponies-invade-painkillers-ad-spring.html
 

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Tanis said:
Jack_in_the_green said:
Well, it's not a surprise Movie Bob did find also "Suckerpunch" to be a "great" movie.... So desperately trying to find any substance when there is none, it's reeaally pathetic.
Robot Number V said:
Sorry Bob, but that sounds pretentious as FUCK. And this wouldn't be the first time you went nuts over a movie that turned out to be a near miss for me. Sometimes you kind of....ignore a film's problems if you really like the idea they were GOING FOR, even if they didn't quite pull it off. (Sucker Punch, Daybreakers, and Splice, for example.) I have a pretty strong feeling that this is one of those.
Oh, and obligatory "In my opinion" statement. Although the fact that everything I just said is my opinion should really just be assumed.
Like all those reviewers praising "Spec Ops: The Line" for its story.
After all, it's really just a mediocre 3rd person shooter where the evil American Empire strikes again against brown people.

Nope. Nothing deeper than that.

;)
Guys, guys

I have a crazy theory.

What if...

movies and games....

are about things?
 

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There is just something about this that screams don't go to me. All the deep ideas the Bob goes on about I just don't see in the trailers or even his description. I was born in 84, I had no teenage years, no spring break and little time before getting a job and an adult life. Nothing about the pretty/rich people interest me in the smallest way.
 

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Chessrook44 said:
[Insert Fry-Eye-Narrowing-Picture here]
"Not sure if serious... or trolling..."
I'm sure you mean this:


And I'm with you on that one Chess, considering that Bob just pretty much spelled out the whole movie for us; 4 whores (and im using that term literally) rob a store, go to florida, get caught up in hookering and drugs, all while not changing his tone. But truth be told this movie looks like gabaj (garbage but it sounds funny when you say it out loud) especially with the fact that its filled with dubstep. It honestly reminds me of that one chick from "Forest Gump" who spent the majority of the movie bein a slut and smokin crack, only where that had a reason for being and was tragic as hell, this is just "oh hey lets write these chicks as whores cause people like that". If people really feel the need to see this kind of movie, watch "Almost Famous" and have dubstep blasting on a pair of headphones.
 

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I'm confused, to say the least.

First, I've never heard of this movie. Is it M-Rated or some Disney-Channel spin-off?
Do I want to watch people party, have sex and rob banks?
What's Generation Y and why should it matter to me?
Isn't Spring Break just summer holiday?
Why mention ponies, to they have an important role?
I also don't recognize any of the "classics" he mentioned.
 

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Xman490 said:
Wow, 2 hours in and there are already over 60 comments? I bet they're about confusion regarding what makes this movie so special that Bob and other critics find it at least intriguing; I guess it has to be seen to be believed.

*checks comments* Really, guys? A large fraction of you care about the reference of MLP:FIM in this? Hasn't the fandom sorta died down?
Not really. If anything it's only getting stronger as time goes on. Bronies are nothing if not dedicated.

Have to say, I'm very shocked that this turned out to be good. After seeing the ads on YouTube I was expecting this to a big pile of teenager vomit, so the revelation that it actually has something to offer is strange indeed. Still don't think I'll see it though - the promise of ponies makes it far more appealing, but I'm still not sure it's my kind of movie.
 

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OlasDAlmighty said:
Wait, IT HAS POINIES?!?!

Definitely avoiding then.
So, you're gonna not watch a movie simply because it probably makes ONE reference to the show?

Get over yourself.
 

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Yeah... sorry Bob, I like you and everything, but ever since your review of Suckerpunch, I have to take these kinds of reviews with a grain of salt, and especially when it comes to female exploitation on film.

Gonna give it a miss. I am not a fan of the "we coach a deeper message into something the audience wants to see" thing, because at the end of the day, if you wanted to see whatever "it" is, you're going to ignore the message and stay with that. And if you were there for the deeper message, you're going to have to slog through the "it" in order to get there. That type of movie is trying to have it both ways, obviously, trying to reel in the shallow masses AND the intellectuals, so it obviously doesn't care about the deeper message enough to get rid of the shallow cocoon it is presented in. So if the movie itself doesn't care that much about the deeper message, why should I?
 

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snowfi6916 said:
OlasDAlmighty said:
Wait, IT HAS POINIES?!?!

Definitely avoiding then.
So, you're gonna not watch a movie simply because it probably makes ONE reference to the show?

Get over yourself.
Were actually I being serious I don't see how it'd make me any more ridiculous than all the people with the exact opposite reaction. Honestly I have no interest in this movie, ponies or no ponies.
 

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Desert Punk said:
RTR said:
Also, quick question regarding the presence of ponies in this film:
Is it used as an easy target for the sake of mockery?
after some googlefu I found this:

the girls wearing ski masks that have the image of a My Little Pony-esque cartoon unicorn emblazoned on them. (Several times throughout the movie, they're glimpsed watching episodes of Friendship is Magic, a comforting escape, perhaps, from more adult pursuits like partying.) It's hilarious, of course, but it also represents a turning point in their lives -- a passage from their childhood into what they all imagine to be maturity... even though it's anything but.
That's kind of a relief. Putting the fact that I'm a fan aside, it's maddening how something so essentially harmless is often used as a punchline outisde of its fandom. Sure, the attitude of some of its "promoters" doesn't help, but still.
 

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shadowstriker86 said:
And I'm with you on that one Chess, considering that Bob just pretty much spelled out the whole movie for us; 4 whores (and im using that term literally) rob a store, go to florida, get caught up in hookering and drugs, all while not changing his tone. But truth be told this movie looks like gabaj (garbage but it sounds funny when you say it out loud) especially with the fact that its filled with dubstep. It honestly reminds me of that one chick from "Forest Gump" who spent the majority of the movie bein a slut and smokin crack, only where that had a reason for being and was tragic as hell, this is just "oh hey lets write these chicks as whores cause people like that". If people really feel the need to see this kind of movie, watch "Almost Famous" and have dubstep blasting on a pair of headphones.
Yes, much like Into the Wild is about a white guy getting lost in the woods, The Great Gatsby is about some rich dude and his party, and Bioshock is about the some guy going underwater to kill the remaining populace of the city of Rapture.

Making generalized, summarized, broad-sweeping comments that completely dodge even the WANT of any statements that aren't being made at the surface level doesn't paint you any better in terms of creating/presenting compelling opinions.

OT:

I may see this. Movies like this generally get me into a bit of a down state of mind, and it's not something that's needed in my life at the moment. I'll likely wait until it comes in other forms of media distribution.

Darken12 said:
Yeah... sorry Bob, I like you and everything, but ever since your review of Suckerpunch, I have to take these kinds of reviews with a grain of salt, and especially when it comes to female exploitation on film.

Gonna give it a miss. I am not a fan of the "we coach a deeper message into something the audience wants to see" thing, because at the end of the day, if you wanted to see whatever "it" is, you're going to ignore the message and stay with that. And if you were there for the deeper message, you're going to have to slog through the "it" in order to get there. That type of movie is trying to have it both ways, obviously, trying to reel in the shallow masses AND the intellectuals, so it obviously doesn't care about the deeper message enough to get rid of the shallow cocoon it is presented in. So if the movie itself doesn't care that much about the deeper message, why should I?
Because the whole point of existential discussion as related to the generation this movie is presenting lies often within the excessive use of self-indulgence to fill an otherwise gaping void that is within the center of the human condition. The whole point of some movies is that characters are hilariously oblivious to what the story they are in is trying to say. That hardly makes a story's ability to tell itself bad, it actually may play up the experience.

Or because if they made this movie about intelligent people with funny hats discussing the benefits and down-sides of our generation's moral set/existential relations, it wouldn't sell and would likely oddly misrepresented. Much like Bob talking about this movie seems a bit disingenuous to his audience.

Honestly, I think this review just paints a bit of a divide at some points between this website's populace and their collective opinion of certain atmospheres used in movies(or other forms of media, I suppose), and someone like Bob, who might be looking for value that people here would like have no problem discarding. I don't really think it's the fault of either party, but it's a bit disappointing.
 

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I just realized that this is a movie directed by a man named "Harmony" and it has ponies in it.
I find that extremely delightful.
 

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That moment when Bob clearly states that you may not like this movie yet people still complain he has bad taste.
 

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Watched the review, till the last second I was expecting him to say he was being sarcastic...