jmarquiso said:Gorrath said:Oh how I understand that. I was born in and grew up in Germany. German lit can be hard because of their language structure, in the sense that there is a great deal of precision to it. Learning about how the German language deals with the concept of knowledge is quite interesting for instance. Understanding lit has a lot to do with understanding the culture from which it springs, even when some of the themes are universal. It can be a dense thing to navigate and I totally understand where you're coming from.jmarquiso said:As a kid, I wasn't required to read much from abroad. But man did we read some great American literature. And the Great Gatsby's actually kinda interestin'. However my wife is German, and had to ask me what The Great Gatsby is about. Which was tough to explain as a simple pitch, so I ended up saying "Hero worship" to sum up. Still, she was quite excited to see the lavish new Baz Luhrmann picture (and disagrees with me about both Luhrmann and Snyder - why I love her). Similarly, I'm trying to get into German lit. Don't find it as accessible.
Unless there is a giant blue dick and Vietnamese abortions in this one too I'm not interested.Gorfias said:Wrong. That's Dr. Manhattan from "The Watchmen". Kidding!Kmadden2004 said:One that's going to end up looking something like this, I'd imagine;SomebodyNowhere said:I know it is unreasonable to expect a character like electro to look exactly like he does in the comics, but what kind of redesign is that.
http://images.wikia.com/marveldatabase/images/f/f9/Maxwell_Dillon_(Earth-1610)_010.jpg
But, it has been done before. Man, I'm going to miss the green and yellow outfit.
In that case, I'm still trying to decide one whether or not they've missed out on anything.jmarquiso said:'RJ Dalton said:You also can't spoiler something that's required high school reading. Anybody who doesn't know the story of The Great Gatsby by this point has no excuse not to.
They grew up in Europe or another continent and/or country where the Great American Novel (one of many) wasn't required reading?
In my English class in the Netherlands we did actually watch the Great Gatsbey movie. I don't think we read the book though.Gorrath said:I imagine it has to do with the expectation that if American children have to read literature from abroad, the reverse would likely be true. And since The Great Gatsby is as pervasive across American literature classes as, say, Shakespeare, that attitude is at least forgivable.
Anyone else in favor of dubbing the gun's firing sound with a "pew?"Chris Batson said:Complicated hero = Sgt. Rex "Power" Colt...
I can dig it.
My excuse is that I've forgotten it. Indeed, I've forgotten quite a bit of school lit, as it tended to be forgettable. The ones I remember, are the ones that were spectacularly awful, like The Grapes of Wrath or The Sound and the Fury.RJ Dalton said:Anybody who doesn't know the story of The Great Gatsby by this point has no excuse not to.
Depends on the teacher. The Great Gatsby is a very interesting novel. As an aside, it sort of informs the modern trend of urban magical realism / urban fantasy genre fiction even - even when it's "grounded" in reality. But it's use of an unreliable narrator and the fantistic symbolism helps out.RJ Dalton said:In that case, I'm still trying to decide one whether or not they've missed out on anything.jmarquiso said:'RJ Dalton said:You also can't spoiler something that's required high school reading. Anybody who doesn't know the story of The Great Gatsby by this point has no excuse not to.
They grew up in Europe or another continent and/or country where the Great American Novel (one of many) wasn't required reading?
I'd imagine Robert Redford would do an excellent job, but unfortunately he didn't.Sean951 said:I want to see it if only because I can't imagine a better actor to play Gatsby than Leo. It also makes me want to re-read the book. I remember not being overly fond of it, but I could definitely see why it was a good book.
Are you able to endure reading Card's bigoted, ignorant, fallacious rants? Take a shot, if you like, but I tried, just now, and it was painful: http://www.ornery.org/essays/warwatch/2004-02-15-1.htmlUkomba said:I'm curious if many people have read what Card has said, or just read what others have said about him. In a resent article, Salon (the whole article painting him as practically Naziesk in his hate) said his "most controversial anti-gay screed" was saying homosexual relationships are different than heterosexual ones. Not really the rabid hate I was expecting.
They later go one to direct the readers to slash fan fictions of his work, the article is really classy.
It might be me, but I think you're reading a tone that isn't there. He seems to come off as more stridently pro-Heterosexuality than anti-homosexuality. He does seem to have a hate on for the political part of it though. He comes off as more ani-liberal than anything else.bravetoaster said:Are you able to endure reading Card's bigoted, ignorant, fallacious rants? Take a shot, if you like, but I tried, just now, and it was painful: http://www.ornery.org/essays/warwatch/2004-02-15-1.htmlUkomba said:I'm curious if many people have read what Card has said, or just read what others have said about him. In a resent article, Salon (the whole article painting him as practically Naziesk in his hate) said his "most controversial anti-gay screed" was saying homosexual relationships are different than heterosexual ones. Not really the rabid hate I was expecting.
They later go one to direct the readers to slash fan fictions of his work, the article is really classy.
It's not that he's a universally bad writer and not that he doesn't or can't make reasonable points on other topics, but Card sure does seem to have an impressive hate-on for anyone who happens to be homosexual. If nothing else, that makes him an asshole.
(OT: my captcha just asked "which one is a country?" and when I chose "Canada" over bunny rabbit, colored pencils, chicken salad, fried rice, or a truckload of cabbages, I somehow failed. I feel like my world has been turned upside-down. Which one of those is a country, then?)
It's not just common, it's been required reading for most high schoolers going back decades with 5 previous movie versions. The statute of spoilers goes back 20-30 years, and at that point I feel it's fair game. Exceptions being when this is the first movie/TV adaption from an old book.Hindkjaer said:I'm rather pissed that just because it's common in American Litteratur, it is considered okay to spoil it. Grantet this wasn't like "Vader-Luke" proportioned spoiler, but still. It seems a little arrogant.