145: Women and E-Sports
This week, the brave Escapist crew discusses the International e-Sports Federation.
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This week, the brave Escapist crew discusses the International e-Sports Federation.
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I tried to get some female voices on the podcast, but it was a day before a National holiday so my first, second and third choices all were out on vacation. I get your point. As I said in the podcast, it would have great to have Janelle on for a LARGE number of reasons.Maddhaus said:I'm glad you guys addressed this issue on the podcast, but I have to ask: was there no way to have at least one female on the show discussing women in e-sports? I'm willing to give the benefit of the doubt that there were legitimate reasons why a female guest wasn't included, but it stills comes across as a bit tone-deaf.
I find it strange that you think only females can understand the problems females face. No, males can do that as well, provided they arent sexist. And These guys arent. so whats the problem?Maddhaus said:I'm glad you guys addressed this issue on the podcast, but I have to ask: was there no way to have at least one female on the show discussing women in e-sports? I'm willing to give the benefit of the doubt that there were legitimate reasons why a female guest wasn't included, but it stills comes across as a bit tone-deaf.
Err... admittedly I've only seen a few episodes of American Ninja Warrior, but don't they put the men and the women all in the same competition? I seem to recall catching an episode recently, where three or four men went up, and then a women went up, too. Doing the same course with the same obstacles with the same competitors. As a matter of fact, the only reason I watched the episode is because Ninja Warrior went to the Today show and made a big deal out of the fact that that night's episode was the first time a woman made the cut for the next round or something. Unless... are try-outs for the show divided by gender or something?white_wolf said:If they split the a girl and boy team what they'll do is advertise the crap out of the men's team and make the women's team seem like pansies cuz they need to reinforce the whole girls aren't real gamers.
Its the difference between male and female ninja warrior you can tell where the real action is and the girls is so lame. They could combine the division just put up a wall girls on one side and men on the other you know if they're afraid of the women distracting the men in their normal T-shirts and hoodies this way both can just play and compete. It doesn't help about the rumors that girl e-gamers are picked only on looks instead of skill which also doesn't help. by putting up a cubical wall it prevents either side from harassing each other physically at least it would just be via voice chat if they even allow for that during the competition.
Saetha said:Err... admittedly I've only seen a few episodes of American Ninja Warrior, but don't they put the men and the women all in the same competition? I seem to recall catching an episode recently, where three or four men went up, and then a women went up, too. Doing the same course with the same obstacles with the same competitors. As a matter of fact, the only reason I watched the episode is because Ninja Warrior went to the Today show and made a big deal out of the fact that that night's episode was the first time a woman made the cut for the next round or something. Unless... are try-outs for the show divided by gender or something?white_wolf said:If they split the a girl and boy team what they'll do is advertise the crap out of the men's team and make the women's team seem like pansies cuz they need to reinforce the whole girls aren't real gamers.
Its the difference between male and female ninja warrior you can tell where the real action is and the girls is so lame. They could combine the division just put up a wall girls on one side and men on the other you know if they're afraid of the women distracting the men in their normal T-shirts and hoodies this way both can just play and compete. It doesn't help about the rumors that girl e-gamers are picked only on looks instead of skill which also doesn't help. by putting up a cubical wall it prevents either side from harassing each other physically at least it would just be via voice chat if they even allow for that during the competition.
Though if I recall correctly, the original Ninja Warrior from Japan was divided by gender. For which I offer no excuse, but that's Japan.
As for e-"sports"... I have exactly zero experience there, so no comment.
Well... if it helps, the organization that was putting on the e-sports tournament actually revoked the rule excluding women from the male-only competition, so girls can compete in that, now. The female-only tournament is still on, though.white_wolf said:Snip