EU Bans Claim Water Prevents Dehydration

Vegosiux

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urprobablyright said:
Do you know what Dehydration is? It's when you have not good enough water in your body and your cells become less effective/shut down!
Yes, and if you're dehydrated, water will help. But that's not "prevention", that's "curative".
 

WolfThomas

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It makes sense in context, they don't want companies to sell non-pharmacutical stuff targeted at medical conditions, it's a bit silly here, but when you see a piece of meat with a sticker saying prevents iron deficiency anaemia, you'd see why they're right.
 

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Vegosiux said:
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I think human stupidity finally reached the bottom. You can't get any dumber than this. Everybody knows that water eases the dehydration you fuckin' morons. Saying that it doesn't won't change the facts.
If that's the case, then such a sales pitch is slightly redundant in the first place, isn't it?

And of course water helps hydrate, nobody is denying that. Nobody's even forbidding you from saying that. You merely can't use it as a sales pitch. Which, if you use your head for a second or two, makes perfect sense.

But as for it preventing dehydration? When did we turn into camels? Really, you can't "stock up" with water in your system, the excess won't get stored for later use, it will be promptly disposed of via the bladder.
How is redundancy a reason to forbid use in sales? That IS forbidding people from saying it in a context.

"if you use your head for a second or two"

This is all you can ever say, never an actual reason, just "you figure it out".

This doesn't say that humans are camels! You fallaciously add in the "stock up" term when that is not the claim, the claim is that water helps prevent dehydration. This is true and has every right to be advertised, what possible reason should scientific facts ever be withheld from the public?!?
 

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The remark on the bendy bananas is somewhat disingenuous.
The UK had that rule long before we joined the EU. We agreed to that rule simply because we already had it.
 

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Treblaine said:
This doesn't say that humans are camels! You fallaciously add in the "stock up" term when that is not the claim, the claim is that water helps prevent dehydration. This is true and has every right to be advertised, what possible reason should scientific facts ever be withheld from the public?!?
You already need to have low hydration problems in order for water "help". If you're normally hydrated, water just passes through your system, mostly. So yes, while water helps against dehydration, it doesn't exactly prevent it. "Staying hydrated" is not about "preventing dehydration", it's about an intake of liquid to balance out the liquid you lost - not about preventing you from losing it in the first place.
 

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Vegosiux said:
urprobablyright said:
Do you know what Dehydration is? It's when you have not good enough water in your body and your cells become less effective/shut down!
Yes, and if you're dehydrated, water will help. But that's not "prevention", that's "curative".
What nonsense. Are you saying that if someone was dehydrated they could not have prevented their dehydration by previously drinking water?

Because that is false.

WolfThomas said:
It makes sense in context, they don't want companies to sell non-pharmacutical stuff targeted at medical conditions, it's a bit silly here, but when you see a piece of meat with a sticker saying prevents iron deficiency anaemia, you'd see why they're right.
What nonsense. What is the problem with advertising meat as preventing anaemia? WHEN IT DOES!

Isn't this nothing but an "inconvenient truth", that companies may just be able to make a genuine scientific claim to advertise a product yet the EU stands in the way of science!

Scientific truth is for use by all, no one has a monopoly on that truth.
 

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Vegosiux said:
Treblaine said:
This doesn't say that humans are camels! You fallaciously add in the "stock up" term when that is not the claim, the claim is that water helps prevent dehydration. This is true and has every right to be advertised, what possible reason should scientific facts ever be withheld from the public?!?
You already need to have low hydration problems in order for water "help". If you're normally hydrated, water just passes through your system, mostly. So yes, while water helps against dehydration, it doesn't exactly prevent it. "Staying hydrated" is not about "preventing dehydration", it's about an intake of liquid to balance out the liquid you lost - not about preventing you from losing it in the first place.
No. Stop taking words out of context. The term is "help prevent dehydration"
not "prevent dehydration"
OR just "help" on dehydration.

"water helps against dehydration, it doesn't exactly prevent it."
The claim is "Helps Prevent dehydration" which it most definitely does, yet the EU forbids stating that.

it's about an intake of liquid to balance out the liquid you lost - not about preventing you from losing it in the first place.
This is where you are being very deceptive, dehydration is not a PROCESS of losing water, it is the STATE of not having enough water.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0001977/

(1) "helps prevent dehydration" DOES NOT CLAIM to "prevent water LOSS"
(2) "helps prevent dehydration" DOES CLAIM that it "helps prevent the RESULT being a state of deficiency of water"
(3) There is NO serious claim that drinking water prevents water loss.
(4) "water prevents water loss" is an irrelevant straw man argument
(5) it is False that water only helps with dehydration ONCE you have reached a state of dehydration
(6) Consuming water Does help prevent Dehydration

You haven't got a leg to stand on. All you've ever had is twisting words and logical fallacies but how about you accept these facts and work from them instead of breaking down each work of a sentence into its most obscure meaning.
 

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Well I would imagine it's so bottled water companies can't claim they're preventing disease (like dehydration is a disease anyway) so I actually think this is pretty reasonable... because bottled water can go fuck itself and die.

So yeah, the ruling, whilst being fairly retarded, is actually probably the right decision.
 

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The pedants are revolting! Of course it has to be "Water prevents the symptoms of dehydration."

It's not really important as long as people are drinking the right amount and getting nutrition (as people have discussed at great length already.)
 

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They are right though, water doesn't stop you dehydrating, it helps you rehydrate.

That said, it's fucking stupid that they've been debating semantics for three years when there are far more important things that need sorting out.
 

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Revnak said:
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Only in the EU
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I don't think any one country or group of countries have a monopoly on this kind of stupidity.
I was mocking the people who make those "only in the USA" or "only in Texas" jokes. I usually assume those people are Europeans. Sorry if my joke was too obtuse.