- Dec 19, 2010
That is fair on the Assassin's Creed thing. I didn't see anyone defend them, I thought that was pretty much considered a universally stupid move by everyone.LifeCharacter said:Well, look at the new Assassin's Creed. How many people defended Ubisoft's choice to have another white man with it being the artists' unassailable choice to do so? Notice how there doesn't seem to be any of that argument about artistic freedom and choice amongst people here?Baresark said:I don't know about you, but I have never seen anyone complain about a new white character. Do people get attacked for that? I would love to see a bunch of new characters come along of all different ethnic backgrounds, but I will always take exception when they decide to just mess with characters for the sake of "diversity".
And, once again, you've decided that this must only exist because "inclusion," disregarding any notion that maybe they thought it was a good idea by itself. Apparently, the idea of Thor's powers going to a woman this time instead of a different white man (or a frog, or a horse) can only exist if inclusion was the main reason, and the Falcon taking up the shield could never be a good idea on it's own, so it must be because he's black.
Did you take exception when every other change to the character that occurred, or is it only when they get a vagina or change skin tone, because then it's about inclusion and that's absolutely horrible?
I take exception when they decide to change existing characters rather than create new characters, just to try and retain their reader base. The thing is, my exception has zero to do with skin tone or sex. People just choose to see it that way. These conversations are always bullshit traps because race or sex is a part of the conversation, despite it not being the point of the conversation. But they do this because it will drive sales.
I would rather they killed Steve Rogers, then at least there is reason for there being a new Captain America. I just happen to adore Steve Rogers as a character, talking about the character going back to the 1940's, the one who fought Hitler. The one who sided with the Anti-Registration crowd during the Civil War because it was the right thing to do. And it does feel blasphemous to make someone else, pretty much any man or woman of any ethnic background, because he encompasses the characters so incredibly well.
I had no complaints about the new Ms Marvel, I don't care they passed the mantle of Spiderman onto Mile Morales. I was glad when Carol Danvers became the new Captain Marvel... and this is starting to make sense. It's as I either said to you or to someone else... humans are irrational. I don't have any bad feelings about any of it based on sex or race, I just really like Captain America, and now he isn't anymore. It's the equivalent of someone wearing the suit but not being the character for me. It might as well be permanent Halloween when it comes to that character and few others. My only issue with Thor is that they insist on calling the character Thor, when clearly that is not what the characters name is. Just another thing to try and retain the reader base of Thor.