I know; you are so sick of Feminism threads on here. But this thread comes with a few rules; because I made it to answer a very simple question (one which I have asked before and still await an answer to). This isn?t a thread to discuss which gender has it worse, or to spread false statistical data, or talk about the many double standards the genders face. This also isn?t a thread to discuss your opinionated definition of the word Feminism or stereotypical generalizations about each gender. No, none of that will be taking place here, and I?m going to make myself perfectly clear?
?I will report anyone derailing this thread in anyway? off handed comments toward the existence of another gender thread, pure unadulterated bitching about women or men, or getting into heating arguments about the aforementioned discussion topics. It will ALL be reported, no questions asked.
* Your participation in this thread assumes the following; that you accept the position that Feminism is a movement dedicated to equality of the sexes.
* With that understanding, here is the discussion; I would like to see evidence of Feminist actions that intentionally benefit men.
Let?s take a moment to discuss the difference between an action and an argument. An argument can be made that certain feminist actions may directly or indirectly affect men in a positive way. There is the argument that the patriarchy harms men as well. But a further argument needs to explain how it harms men, and a further argument then how it?s going to be corrected. And of course, an argument can be made to how it?s not going to happen the way it?s initially argued. See the difference? An action is an argument made manifest with the intention of supporting its original position. You can say your actions will benefit me, but I want to see evidence for how it does, not merely your argument in the ways in which it could.
I made a distinction with ?intentions? behind the actions, because I feel there is a difference between serving your own interests first and serving the interests of all. I?m willing to accept both, but I?m certainly more interested in those which are not simply the result of beneficial fault out. It?s easy to question the validity of equality when the service seems to be catering to a single side of the coin.
Your examples can certainly be personal, but I prefer to see some kind of documentation; a website, article, video, etc, detailing the actions of a self proclaimed Feminist seeking to intentionally assist men in some fashion through action, not merely argument. This could be political, social, financial, etc.
The purpose of course being to support the position assumed by the participation in the thread. I did not make this thread to prove the failure of Feminism in its efforts toward gender equality, but as a way for them to demonstrate how they are working toward it. At the very least, it would provide something for the many detractors of the movement to consider and give a fresh perspective for those at the Escapist. I eagerly await replies.
?I will report anyone derailing this thread in anyway? off handed comments toward the existence of another gender thread, pure unadulterated bitching about women or men, or getting into heating arguments about the aforementioned discussion topics. It will ALL be reported, no questions asked.
* Your participation in this thread assumes the following; that you accept the position that Feminism is a movement dedicated to equality of the sexes.
* With that understanding, here is the discussion; I would like to see evidence of Feminist actions that intentionally benefit men.
Let?s take a moment to discuss the difference between an action and an argument. An argument can be made that certain feminist actions may directly or indirectly affect men in a positive way. There is the argument that the patriarchy harms men as well. But a further argument needs to explain how it harms men, and a further argument then how it?s going to be corrected. And of course, an argument can be made to how it?s not going to happen the way it?s initially argued. See the difference? An action is an argument made manifest with the intention of supporting its original position. You can say your actions will benefit me, but I want to see evidence for how it does, not merely your argument in the ways in which it could.
I made a distinction with ?intentions? behind the actions, because I feel there is a difference between serving your own interests first and serving the interests of all. I?m willing to accept both, but I?m certainly more interested in those which are not simply the result of beneficial fault out. It?s easy to question the validity of equality when the service seems to be catering to a single side of the coin.
Your examples can certainly be personal, but I prefer to see some kind of documentation; a website, article, video, etc, detailing the actions of a self proclaimed Feminist seeking to intentionally assist men in some fashion through action, not merely argument. This could be political, social, financial, etc.
The purpose of course being to support the position assumed by the participation in the thread. I did not make this thread to prove the failure of Feminism in its efforts toward gender equality, but as a way for them to demonstrate how they are working toward it. At the very least, it would provide something for the many detractors of the movement to consider and give a fresh perspective for those at the Escapist. I eagerly await replies.