Facebook "Likes" for Japanese Relief Offer Sparks Outrage
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You're right it is zero, at the moment. Why would I donate when I'm already - with the bank from paying bills, rent and feeding myself and my child?KalosCast said:
It's pointless me telling you I want to and will donate next month, because, of course, you bet it'll still be zero. Get over yourself.
I don't see the problem, at least it would make regular people feel like they're doing something useful towards the relief effort; in fact im willing to bet that is exactly what they had in mind when they posted that message.
I say people should get over their self-righteous selves and just hit the like button, they promised to donate the money so not hitting that one little button is just making people in Japan suffer more than they need to.
I suck at semi-colons.
I say people should get over their self-righteous selves and just hit the like button, they promised to donate the money so not hitting that one little button is just making people in Japan suffer more than they need to.
I suck at semi-colons.
How is this any different than Project: Red?
Project: Red was an initiative where companies would donate a certain amount of the proceeds from their red-colored projects to AIDS research. Apple and some clothes companies were the main participants of the program. They made a KILLING off of it, and managed to donate a large amount to AIDS research in the process. Everyone wins.
Here, all people had to do was click a "like" button, and Mastiff throws out $100 towards the Japanese quake relief. Sure, they're getting publicity. They're also donating money. If the complainers were really all that concerned about the Japanese quake victims, they would just click the fucking button to help it reach the max count quicker instead of getting indignant. Charitable organizations hold events like this all the time, it's been SOP for ages.
Project: Red was an initiative where companies would donate a certain amount of the proceeds from their red-colored projects to AIDS research. Apple and some clothes companies were the main participants of the program. They made a KILLING off of it, and managed to donate a large amount to AIDS research in the process. Everyone wins.
Here, all people had to do was click a "like" button, and Mastiff throws out $100 towards the Japanese quake relief. Sure, they're getting publicity. They're also donating money. If the complainers were really all that concerned about the Japanese quake victims, they would just click the fucking button to help it reach the max count quicker instead of getting indignant. Charitable organizations hold events like this all the time, it's been SOP for ages.
Idk it isnt like they have to give anything to anyone. At least they are giving something i think it is worth it and how long would it really take? poor sports or whatever look how many people exploited haiti not with just likes, but saying you have to buy something so they would make a donation. mastiff is not asking for you to buy and a percentage will go to japan they are doing it out of pocket. geeze i for one appreciate them even trying.
Nobody linked this yet?
People are always so quick to get all moral high ground on everyone else as soon as the word "charity" appears. If you didn't donate anything, you are a piece of shit to everyone else. If you didn't donate as much as someone else did, you are a piece of shit to them. This is why I keep any donations I make to myself.
Hell, even if someone were to put in their entire life savings, there would be some pious jackass trying to take the moral high ground by saying "Why didn't you get a second job so you could donate even more you cheap bastard?"
People are always so quick to get all moral high ground on everyone else as soon as the word "charity" appears. If you didn't donate anything, you are a piece of shit to everyone else. If you didn't donate as much as someone else did, you are a piece of shit to them. This is why I keep any donations I make to myself.
Hell, even if someone were to put in their entire life savings, there would be some pious jackass trying to take the moral high ground by saying "Why didn't you get a second job so you could donate even more you cheap bastard?"
The article says it's $100 for every 100 likes up to $25,000. So if they only get 700 likes, that's still $700, which is more than nothing. They didn't say "if we get 25,000 likes, we'll donate $25,000, and if we don't get that many likes they get nothing."Abedeus said:
Exactly what I was thinking. Also, according to a number of people here, it would have been better if they never offered to donate anything at all; at least then people would be indifferent to the company.iD_Entity said:
It's funny when doing nothing makes someone look better than doing something decent in return for a rather pointless gesture.
Or they could Donate no money, the idea really isn't as bad an idea as you think, if they would have just said that they will donate an amount for every like they get without saying were they would stop people wouldn't be complaining and just hiting the like button untel they go and say stop that they can't donate any more money, then everyone would cry out that they lied about donating money for every like.
The idea Seems like something i have heard about rich snobby people doing at rich snobby parties.
The idea Seems like something i have heard about rich snobby people doing at rich snobby parties.
Well, seeing as you are unable to get the "friendly brush off" hint, let me retort.Carlos Alexandre said:
Firstly "if my life depended on it"? Really? Don't make assumptions about me or my intelligence based on two posts I make on a gaming forum, that makes you an assuming bastard, not me. You are new to the forums, so I'll pre-warn you: take on this kind of trolling, negative attitude, and you will quickly attract mod attention.
Right, back to my post. It's patronising in that it's condescending to the Japanese. Why? Because they've turned aid into a competition, and not only a competition, but one for a relatively pitiful amount.
a)They are not "freely donating", they are selling advertising. There is a string attached, "facebook likes". It's kind of the whole premise, although maybe you didn't understand that
b)Adding more awareness? I'd bet every penny I ever earned that more people are aware of the tragedy than they are of Mastiff games. They aren't promoting anything but themselves
c)That's called "watching your arse". If they didn't put this there they would be liable-maybe even by law, of profiteering off of tragedy
I will say this later, but just to warm you up-if you have an opinion, feel free to share it. If you have come on here to generally abuse and be rude, I suggest you leave now, before you get banned. I'm not the one coming off as an idiot in this situation
Well, seeing as you like repeating your incorrect assumptions, I'll indulge you by correcting you again:
There is a string attached, everything extra is just insurance, and yes, a trade is taking place, even if you personally don't recognise the benefit of it.
And how am I showing a "callous disregard" of the disaster? I am showing a distaste for publicity profiteering, sure. Not for the disaster. I donated money for it, and I didn't feel the need to draw attention to my donation. I didn't make a website or a promotion regarding it. I haven't even told anyone about it until this post now. I'm prepared to bet many people have done the same, famous and normal people alike. You don't need some kind of gratification to show you care for things. At least normal, people don't.
At very best, Mastiff is trying to provide a platform for facebook people to get involved, which is patronising to their target audience in itself (in that it assumes the average facebook user is somehow unable or unwilling to donate off of their own back, which is condescending, seeing as you need it all explaining).
I personally did help, along with other worthwhile charities. I don't need to support some publicity stunt in order to help out the less needy, and if you do, I pity you. I'm not looking for reasons NOT to contribute, I'm criticising something that I find pretty tasteless. My reasons are very valid, and if you cannot comprehend them, then that's your issue and not mine.
As I have already said, insulting someone over their opinion is a sure fire way to incur moderator wrath. If you don't care about that, then you are likely to have no decent input into this site at all, and again I would suggest you leave. Not only that, but insulting someone over their opinion, rather than providing a civil and detailed counter argument/opinion, is not a good way to get your opinion across, or even taken seriously.
Stop being a trend follower and think for your self. Think of how you can actually help the men, women, and children in need. This. Isn't. It. Stop. Being. Obtuse.
Agreed. It's sad that people who criticize Mastiff for engaging in a "media stunt" are effectively asking for less transparency and more layers of bureaucratic ambiguity, which ironically would have turned it into more of a "media stunt."antipunt said:
Speaking of which...
You're attacking an attempt to raise money for people in trouble, and your attack is backed with exactly zero valid reasoning. You're the one trolling and purposefully being negative. And ignoring the very good reasons why what you're saying is comprised of 100% Grade A hogwash.Verlander said:
That you're playing the "don't talk back to me, I have a bigger post count and I'll tell the mods" card tells me how flimsy your soapbox is. My post count could be in the single digits and yours could be in the millions, and you'd still be dead wrong. And any mod who would honestly reprimand me for saying "hey, what you're saying is untrue and you're being purposely thick-headed in not acknowledging it" would make me question posting here in the first place.
Proof. It's what you lack, what makes your argument wholly invalid, and what makes your attempts to silence me via attacks on post count and mod threats very, very sad.
Since you don't have that proof: they haven't turned it into a competition. Compete with whom? For what? Other organizations looking to donate and asking people for FB Likes, something that FB users aren't limited to finite amounts of? Other charitable aid events, on FB or otherwise?
The reason you're getting a fair amount of venom from me is because you're making a claim not backed by evidence, which is not an opinion; it's an objective assertion backed by jack squat, like claiming a cat is a reptile.
And that's all that needs to be said, because the rest of your post is just more of the same logical fallacy-ridden bunk, unworthy of my time. Or anyone's.
Oh, my god.
Mastiff: Oh boy, poor Japan D=. Let's donate some cash from our own coffers.
*Later*
Mastiff: Good, now that that's out of the way- Wait, whats this? We still have an extra 25,000 gold coins? I have an idea; let's spread out the word that if we get 100 "Likes" on our Facebook page, we automatically donate 100 gold coins from this extra pile. It's a great idea! That way people can donate without even spending a single penny; Fantastic! And we also get more people to notice us! That way we can make enough money to live happy lives with our dear families! How can anything go wrong?
inb4shitstorm*
Mastiff: Oh boy, poor Japan D=. Let's donate some cash from our own coffers.
*Later*
Mastiff: Good, now that that's out of the way- Wait, whats this? We still have an extra 25,000 gold coins? I have an idea; let's spread out the word that if we get 100 "Likes" on our Facebook page, we automatically donate 100 gold coins from this extra pile. It's a great idea! That way people can donate without even spending a single penny; Fantastic! And we also get more people to notice us! That way we can make enough money to live happy lives with our dear families! How can anything go wrong?
inb4shitstorm*