Fallout Devs Want to Work On Chrono Trigger
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While I'm leery of the phrase westernize(I mean as I live in Australia which as it is below asia means I probably live in the east technically), if they where to produce a modernised action rpg version of ChronoTrigger with the same level of content as the orginal (like they did with fallout) and do it as well as they did fallout; it would likely become a blackhole in which all my spare time would be sucked.
I'm not sure if this is a good thing or not... See below as to why:
http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2006/06/16/
I'm not sure if this is a good thing or not... See below as to why:
http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2006/06/16/
I was only opposed to Obsidian making it at first, but now that i think about it, yeah, that is something bethesda would do. They've got a lot of practice at it.ExileNZ said:I think it'd be awesome but if it's got anything to do with Bethesda just remember one thing:
PATCH THE FUCKING THING! A game whose already few and far-between save points don't work is NOT an acceptable release and it is the developer's responsibility, not the community's, to make a patch for it.
Yes, CthuluCotE, I'm looking at you.
As much as I'd like to see it, i think of anyone who would do it right at all.
Obsidian would spend three years making a piece of crap
Bethesda would release it with a ton of obvious bugs and never patch it
Bioware would biowareize it and i would vomit just looking at it because every rpg they ever made besides Mass Effect is basically the same thing with different pictures.
Can't think of anyone else that actually makes wrpgs worth a crap. If i had to pick one i'd have to go with Bethesda though, they at least give people the tools to clean up after their mess. There's no way to fix an outright bad or horrifically bland game.
chrono cross was great....imo and no please dont remake trigger....square enix should just work on a sequel!!!Tolerant Fanboy said:
Obsidian I have a special message for you guys: BACK THE FUCK OFF. Yeah I like you guys enough, but don't even think about touching Chrono Trigger.
What a bunch of short-sighted, narrow-minded luddites!
Honestly, people hear "WHAT?! Remake something that I enjoyed 15 years ago but is completely irrelevant to anyone under the age of 30? Blasphemy!!"
Obsidian has a great track record, ignoring all the "I wanna be cool by bashing stuff" parroting you see on the internet. If the industry took the comments of "fans" into consideration before making a game, we'd still be playing top down isometric 2D sprite filled linear games. Thank goodness they do not, because innovation drives the rest of us forward.
Don't get me wrong, I loved and still love Chronotrigger. I also loved and still love Fallout and Fallout 2. That didn't stop me from playing and enjoying Fallout 3. Oh all the whining that was going on when people found out it would be a "First Person Shooter".. people were declaring it a failure right from the word go... then the game came out and it Rocked the Awesome House off its foundation. THAT is what happens when you "innovate" instead of going back to the same old well because it is what the "fans" are comfortable with.
I for one would be VERY curious as to how exactly they'd "westernize" it with a new update. Would it include branching dialogue trees? A morality system? How would the combo system work? How would the Combat system work? What would be the art direction? How would the story be changed and/or updated to make it more relevant to a more advanced gamer than the ones that were playing it in the 90's? Would there still be multiple endings? I for one would be curious and interested in how ANY of these things would be implemented.
Look, whats the worst thing that could happen? If you don't enjoy or appreciate it, the ORIGINAL is still and always WILL BE there for you to run back to the safety of its warm, nostalgic embrace. And Obsidian takes a lot of unnecessary and undeserved flak. Sure, some of their games havent been as GOOD as the originals (arguably, since I STILL prefer KOTOR 2 to KOTOR 1 i don't care what anybody says), but the thing is, that doesnt mean any of them were BAD games. Kotor 2 (as exampled) wasn't all that Kotor 1 was to some people, but judging it by any other measure it was still a VERY good game. Alpha Protocol gets a lot of unnecessary bashing, much of it I believe by people who didn't even bother to play it and are only parroting the negative reviews they've heard from "critics". The truth is, Alpha Protocol is a pretty darn decent title. Sure it tripped up here and there on some things and needed perhaps a bit of extra polish but it was a solid AVERAGE score title. I actually enjoyed it more than some other titles like Dead Space and inFamous, yet people RAVE about those games. All it proves is that everyone has different tastes, but that doesn't mean ANY of these games are "bad."
So yeah, if Square Enix decided to give Obsidian a green light for a Chrono-trigger remake I'd be very, very interested. In fact I would be MORE interested than if I heard Square itself was working on a HD remake which would essentially be nothing more than a "Chronotrigger CGI interactive film."
If you keep an open mind you might find yourself pleasantly surprised, and like I said, if it doesn't float your boat you can always go back to playing the original like you have been for the past decade.
Honestly, people hear "WHAT?! Remake something that I enjoyed 15 years ago but is completely irrelevant to anyone under the age of 30? Blasphemy!!"
Obsidian has a great track record, ignoring all the "I wanna be cool by bashing stuff" parroting you see on the internet. If the industry took the comments of "fans" into consideration before making a game, we'd still be playing top down isometric 2D sprite filled linear games. Thank goodness they do not, because innovation drives the rest of us forward.
Don't get me wrong, I loved and still love Chronotrigger. I also loved and still love Fallout and Fallout 2. That didn't stop me from playing and enjoying Fallout 3. Oh all the whining that was going on when people found out it would be a "First Person Shooter".. people were declaring it a failure right from the word go... then the game came out and it Rocked the Awesome House off its foundation. THAT is what happens when you "innovate" instead of going back to the same old well because it is what the "fans" are comfortable with.
I for one would be VERY curious as to how exactly they'd "westernize" it with a new update. Would it include branching dialogue trees? A morality system? How would the combo system work? How would the Combat system work? What would be the art direction? How would the story be changed and/or updated to make it more relevant to a more advanced gamer than the ones that were playing it in the 90's? Would there still be multiple endings? I for one would be curious and interested in how ANY of these things would be implemented.
Look, whats the worst thing that could happen? If you don't enjoy or appreciate it, the ORIGINAL is still and always WILL BE there for you to run back to the safety of its warm, nostalgic embrace. And Obsidian takes a lot of unnecessary and undeserved flak. Sure, some of their games havent been as GOOD as the originals (arguably, since I STILL prefer KOTOR 2 to KOTOR 1 i don't care what anybody says), but the thing is, that doesnt mean any of them were BAD games. Kotor 2 (as exampled) wasn't all that Kotor 1 was to some people, but judging it by any other measure it was still a VERY good game. Alpha Protocol gets a lot of unnecessary bashing, much of it I believe by people who didn't even bother to play it and are only parroting the negative reviews they've heard from "critics". The truth is, Alpha Protocol is a pretty darn decent title. Sure it tripped up here and there on some things and needed perhaps a bit of extra polish but it was a solid AVERAGE score title. I actually enjoyed it more than some other titles like Dead Space and inFamous, yet people RAVE about those games. All it proves is that everyone has different tastes, but that doesn't mean ANY of these games are "bad."
So yeah, if Square Enix decided to give Obsidian a green light for a Chrono-trigger remake I'd be very, very interested. In fact I would be MORE interested than if I heard Square itself was working on a HD remake which would essentially be nothing more than a "Chronotrigger CGI interactive film."
If you keep an open mind you might find yourself pleasantly surprised, and like I said, if it doesn't float your boat you can always go back to playing the original like you have been for the past decade.
And bugs. Lots and LOTS of bugs. Every new obsidian based game has been buggy as hell, but a decent improvement over the original.Aura Guardian said:
Neverwinter Nights 2, awesome new way to play NWN, but complete and utter garbage until 10000 patches later.
SWTOR 2, awesome improvement, but the amount of bugs and exploits was astounding over the original.
Alpha protocol, Sigh. I wanted to like this. I just called it a weak Dues Ex, and gave up. But still buggy as hell.
I really WANT to like obsidian games. But their QA or Tester department needs to either be fired, or used.
That's kinda what I meant. You used all the detail, I just shorten it. Time/testing is their flawXersues said:
I'm glad the nerdrage is quieting down.
I would actually love for the art style to remain similar to original. It would probably end up looking like Dragon Warrior 8, which I don't have4 a problem with.
I would actually love for the art style to remain similar to original. It would probably end up looking like Dragon Warrior 8, which I don't have4 a problem with.
I like how JRPG fans constantly complain about people constantly generalizing their genre and its respective qualities, but the second Obsidian considers making a Chrono sequel they start screaming "OMG WESTERNIZATION, ITS GONNA BE COLORLESS AND BORING like WRPGS, THEIR STORIES SUCK SCREW YOU OBSIDIAN".
Chrono Trigger is a great game, but Square Enix won't touch the series for some contrived reason. If I remember correctly, Chris Avellone is a big fan of CT and any real RPG fan knows that he was the brains behind "Planescape Torment", which has a story unparalleled in the industry. If any western developer can do the game justice its obsidian.
Chrono Trigger is a great game, but Square Enix won't touch the series for some contrived reason. If I remember correctly, Chris Avellone is a big fan of CT and any real RPG fan knows that he was the brains behind "Planescape Torment", which has a story unparalleled in the industry. If any western developer can do the game justice its obsidian.