Feds Using Seized Domains to Promote Anti-Piracy PSA

Kahnmir

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So, while I support the idea of cracking down on piracy in theory, I must wonder why an organization called "homeland security" is involved in this. What does this have to do with our security? Perhaps they should be renamed something more fitting such as "gestapo" or something like that, given how they seem to function more like secret police than anything else.
 

Dyp100

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Maybe I'm some a soulless bastard, but I got no problem with pirating.

It's like testing, however, I think if you like something you should go out and buy it.

Therefore, the best things go to the top, or at least stuff that deserves to hang around.

Lot better than the modern system of paying to see crap even if you don't know it's crap and therefore letting crap live.
 

Luthir Fontaine

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First i think pirates are low lifes who desever theft charges

Second that is one the dumbest clips since Heres your brain ....heres your brain on drugs
 

ionveau

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Why the hell is the government protecting the intrests of the private company's Rather then looking after the public at large?

So if i got this right
A private health care insurance company denying needed care to a dying man is A ok
But if i download a movie i lose my soul?

Well letting a man die is helping giant company's = legal
downloading movies = helping poor to middle class people = illegal

Thank god i live in Canada
rather then, Land of the free capitalist America
 

rickynumber24

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9_6 said:
Wish that "no soul" guy in the suit would've just turned around on the spot and grabbed more dvds one by one while that git foams from the mouth about him being such a monster.

Remember kids,
Ah good; someone brought that up before I had to track it down...

Yeah, I liked anti-piracy PSAs better when they involved a dude in black and yellow rapping. (... and I'm not a fan of rap music... it's jut that that video is hilarious... and ancient.)
 

punipunipyo

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HAHAHAHA! nice~ I like the grumpy face that old lady had, it's HELLA FUNNY! An't gonna stop piracy though, My suggestion, split some from the stars, they are NOT THAT WORTHY, TO BE FILTHY RICH AND ALL... evenly share... I mean not like $500 per hour for the stars, and $12 per hour for the film crew... that's just sick. balance out, or better, replace all the stars with digital stars! cheaper, no attitude, and more jobs for the artists!!! (have we seen this somewhere?) They do the same amount of work, only one has prettier face, and knows how to fake cry... that's all.

(still laughing at the grumpy old lady's face)
 

ionveau

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Doxcology said:
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Also watch this one to rage even more, sharing something that isn't yours is stealing guize!
Oh rly? well i should stop buying CDs games etc now seeing as i dont truly own them, thanks for telling me I thought that the stack of game boxes belonged to me who knew huh?
 

lierinwait

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It's actually really encouraging to see how many people posting here recognize that piracy does hurt creative industries (I'm not necessarily condoning anything they do, you understand). I write books, and I can get them all of rapidshare with a simple search. I'm only making pennies already. I'm sure no one bothers to download my work(I'm not that popular), but if I counted on my writing for more of my income, I'd sure be pretty pissed if there was a 70%pirate/30%purchase ratio to my stuff like with some games.
 

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First of all, why the fuck is Homeland Security concerning itself with Hollywood's money at all? Shouldn't they focus on, I dunno, homeland security?

Second, I think this is a great idea. We the consumers should stop stealing movies. And the movie studios and theater companies should help us to do this by lowering the prices of admission, food/drink, and DVDs back to where they used to be - something reasonable. You used to be able to get the edition of a movie on DVD with all the bells and whistles for $15-020 as soon as it came out. Now you get the bare-bones edition for $15 or pay more than $30 for the real deal, or wait several months and see if Best Buy marks it down eventually. TV on DVD is often worse, even for television shows which have been in syndication for decades. And paying $30 for one movie ticket and a medium popcorn and small drink is unacceptable.

I'm not making excuses. Piracy does hurt the industry - but not nearly as much as indifference, and the masses are on to Hollywood. A good first step would be to stop hiring fresh-out-of-college businessman who have no understanding of art to be your suits. A good second step? Stop gouging us at the box office and the electronics department. Try an online subscription service that's fair and affordable - like the recording industry should have done.

And one last thing. That woman wouldn't have been fired because someone pirated the movies she worked on. She would have been fired so that her bosses could keep their enormous profits in spite of piracy.
 

ionveau

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lierinwait said:
It's actually really encouraging to see how many people posting here recognize that piracy does hurt creative industries (I'm not necessarily condoning anything they do, you understand). I write books, and I can get them all of rapidshare with a simple search. I'm only making pennies already. I'm sure no one bothers to download my work(I'm not that popular), but if I counted on my writing for more of my income, I'd sure be pretty pissed if there was a 70%pirate/30%purchase ratio to my stuff like with some games.
One problem, your work is not protected, the ones that get the first class protection from piracy are the giant company's that control the government,

To get more income i suggest you give out your book for free and add a small donation box on your site, that should give you more income.
 

Thoric485

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We should believe that companies in the entertainment industry are suffering heavy losses because of piracy? Have those people looked at the gross profit of movies/music/games?

Hell, considering the quality of most media they should recieve less money.

Also, here's the opinion of a person who actually has stuff worth being pirated:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Qkyt1wXNlI
 

ionveau

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Take a look at this, people that actually make movies for the public to see and think about rather then mindless 2 hour movies that have no message

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVYhwKu7J5E&feature=related
 

CommanderKirov

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I have no problems with pirating the material that is unattainable in a certain countries.

As a polish lover of forgein TV I know the pain of not being able to purchase or pay for any subscription anywhere and having to wait for overpriced DVD seasons releases that come 5 years after the show aired in different countries.


But if the service is available and not ridiciolously overpriced. Than there is no excuse for pirating.


EDIT: Also I'm quite sure that guy in the suit is an actor. I seen him once as a patient in an episode of ER.
 

rossable

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LULZ! seriously, this accomplished noting! it only reinforces to those who don't pirate already, why not to. while those that do pirate will continue out of habit. some new pirates may even come about just out of spite for this, while i'm sure a small margin of pirates may quit out of fear of being caught. ultimately, noting changes...
 

Therumancer

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What's more it would be nice if they didn't lie in those videos and presented the issue accuratly. I think the BS involved in the anti-piracy movement helps fuel piracy.

See, piracy is wrong, but the people involved in actually making movies and similar things typically have no direct vested interest in them. The Boom Mic operator got paid during the production of the movie. The person who actually loses something from this is the producer, who came up with the money to begin with. Sometimes big name actors receive a percentage of the profits as well, but that's not universal, in most cases the 20 million dollars or however much they made is pretty much the sum total of their payoff.

The "risk" involved in piracy is that producers might decide movies do not make enough of a return and thus stop investing in them, which would of course put the industry out of business. Of course that doesn't seem likely given the billions of dollars being made despite everything.

The point about piracy being wrong, and that it is stealing, is very valid. However lies, don't do much except slot people off. They use something like a boom mic operator as an example, for the same reason the games industry tries to talk about the poor coder or graphics artist being the victim. The CEO rolling cigarettes in $100 bills while he lounges on a gold throne next to his olympic-sized swimming pool full of cocaine which is located inside his private jet doesn't garner much sympathy, even if he is actually being stolen from.

Honestly, I'm of the opinion that such appeals should be kept purely on a moral level, for the purpose of accuracy and honesty. If your as dishonest as the pirates it doesn't really sell your case. I don't see piracy as a major crisis given the amount of money the industry is making, so a laid back approach is appropriate. Especially since someone who takes a movie or whatever for free is not nessicarly lost money, because there is no guarantee they would have paid money to buy the movie for full price anyway. It's sort of like taking a free pen offered at a business, as opposed to paying $1.00 for one at a register. Just because you grabbed one for free, does not mean you would have paid a buck for one.

Piracy is an issue that should be addressed, but not radically. When they come up with a way of dealing with it that doesn't impact legitimate consumers, by all means run with it. Otherwise keep the message honest, and be content with the affect that it does have. Also nail pirates when targets of oppertunity become availible... however being obnoxious about things is actually going to be counter productive.
 

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NicoDK said:
So what they're saying is "For every movie pirated a person working with sound looses their job"

Makes sense.
I work at a company. Recently, I was told that I may lose my job because we weren't reaching our sales goals and they couldn't afford to keep me.

It happens. It takes very little for someone to lose their job in a big organization.

I honestly understand that people pirate. I can live with that. But what I can't live with is them being little entitled brats who lecture everyone else about how they're helping things and not hurting anyone and they're "poorly served" and how they have every right to do this and it can't possibly have consequences.

Also, saying the boom mic operator has no vested interest in the success of the movie is willful ignorance. Producers and licensers don't pay to have movies made unless they can profit off of them. If not, they won't pay for them. Moviemakers won't get the work. Movie staff won't have jobs.

Economics involves interconnected markets.
 

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Snotnarok said:
How about you show the video game industry that it's supporters don't like DRM and being lied to about what is included with game systems.
And this is the other side of the story. Would you rather purchase something that can only be used on the platform in which it's designed for, or would you rather receive a free version that can be used on all platforms at once if you desire to do so? I'm worried how this will turn out several years down the road.
 

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Snotnarok said:
Shadow-Phoenix said:
Snotnarok said:
How about you show the video game industry that it's supporters don't like DRM and being lied to about what is included with game systems.
don't forget a complete game that is actually broken down into 16 pieces of DLC and completely glitched and broken to hell that they expect for us to pay full price for.
Sorry I can't hear you over the game I paid for, but can't play because I'm out of installs. Which I guess is fine because I have these here other games these cartridges that don't have limited playing.

Or the copy of Black Ops I couldn't play for 5 months because they listed Dual Core as supported, and it wasn't and I had to wait for a patch.

Or for Borderlands which took ...what 3-4 months to get the online working?

Or the people who bought Capcom games on the PSN, but can't play because the PSN is down.

I dunno, I find it hard to weep for the actress portrayed as a microphone worker in the video as well as the actor playing the consumer jerk in the video when they're not real and representing companies that even with crazy pirating still make insane amounts of money that mostly go to the billionaire CEOs anyway.
Wait black ops was not supported for dual core?.
 

SyphonX

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This is alarmingly fascist.

Government organizations including "Homeland Security", which were brought up post-2001 to combat "terrorism" and provide security to America, are now being used as corporate goons, to quite literally terrorize and intimidate teenagers and people going about their daily lives.

Yea, this little PSA was comedic and charming and all, but don't think for a second that these goons won't tar and feather you, then throw you into a For-Profit prison just for the hell of it.

Both the movie and games industries are booming. They continue to grow, and profits are not down. Games are still exploding, and technologies being pushed.

The US government is filled with useless, fascist, do-nothing dirtbags who are running this country into the ground with their bullshit. America's police force is continually more militarized every year, and more money/manpower is being spent on enforcing victimless crimes and "thought-crimes" rather than stopping real crime.

I just read a story on Oklahoma, where the state legislature passed a bill (sending to the Governor) whereby trying to convert marijuana to hashish will be considered a felony with a minimum of 2 years, to LIFE in prison.

Fucking out of control, it's really not that funny. People need to put on their serious face just a little more often.