Feds Using Seized Domains to Promote Anti-Piracy PSA

[GamingAwesome1]

Genius move to do it on the seized domains.

Also, concerning piracy on films, here's an idea. You want people to stop pirating your shit? Make the fucking anti-piracy warning skippable, the only people who have to watch that are paying customers. Actual pirates can skip right over them.

This applies to DRM in games.

 

[Snotnarok]

How about you show the video game industry that it's supporters don't like DRM and being lied to about what is included with game systems.

don't forget a complete game that is actually broken down into 16 pieces of DLC and completely glitched and broken to hell that they expect for us to pay full price for.

Sorry I can't hear you over the game I paid for, but can't play because I'm out of installs. Which I guess is fine because I have these here other games these cartridges that don't have limited playing.

Or the copy of Black Ops I couldn't play for 5 months because they listed Dual Core as supported, and it wasn't and I had to wait for a patch.

Or for Borderlands which took ...what 3-4 months to get the online working?

Or the people who bought Capcom games on the PSN, but can't play because the PSN is down.

I dunno, I find it hard to weep for the actress portrayed as a microphone worker in the video as well as the actor playing the consumer jerk in the video when they're not real and representing companies that even with crazy pirating still make insane amounts of money that mostly go to the billionaire CEOs anyway.

Wait black ops was not supported for dual core?.

They said it was but trying to play it was impossible, it wasnt even a framerate issue, the game would just randomly chug and the 'chugs' were literally 4 seconds apart making any kind of shooting impossible, I dropped all my settings to lowest, still was just as bad. Look at the update list on steam

 

[gring]

Wait, wasn't it already proven that pirating actually brings in money by HELPING people decide if they want to buy it or not?

Wait, wasn't it already proven that pirates are really only a super minority who just download one of everything which makes the volume of pirated copies look worse then it actually is?

Wait, wasn't it already proven that mostly people who pirate are people who are either not going to buy it anyways, or they are in an area where obtaining it legitimately is actually impossible?

OH right, this is homeland security were talking here, where a police state approach is obviously the best solution for everything, and where actual facts don't mean diddly-squat.

They are just using tax payer money in an attempt to have hollywood make even more money then it already does, which in turn goes back into the government. Why again do we have these people in government?

 

[TiefBlau]

My whole take on the piracy thing is that if the entertainment industries want to stop it they need to simply adapt to it. Wanna put TBP out of business? Offer a site that does what they do but 10 times better and with no dead torrents. Charge a small yearly fee for membership and BAM, problem solved. Only the die-hard pirates will continue to download illegally; I would think most people will be glad to pay for a superior service.

Have fun convincing people who want to make films with multimillion dollar budgets to scrape their profits off "small yearly fees".

Hack: "you can take these downloaded movies but you if you do... I'll fire this woman"

Person: "what because your profits are falling every year?"

Hack: "oh no, they are in fact rising year on year! No I'll just use piracy as an excuse to the unions so I can cut loose some dead weight and export more movie work to CGI farms in Taiwan"

Person: "so... you're basically holding your union employees hostage"

Hack: "Hey, at least I'm not a pirate"

Because if they weren't making profits, you'd stop pirating their movies.

Clearly.

Wait, so if someone pirates a movie then the boom operators of those movies will then lose their jobs? In post production? When the MOVIE IS FINISHED?

Because you only ever make one movie. After that you're finished. For good.
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You people can piss and moan all you want about anti-piracy laws (I sure do), but at the end of the day, piracy is wrong, and there's nothing you can say to justify it short of declaring that artists are worthless and should get real jobs.

 

[008Zulu_v1legacy]

How is that inappropriate? Government agencies protect property rights. Police bust shoplifters, courts enforce copyright claims, the only real difference is that in this case the internet characterizes one as the big bad evil monster thats standing in the way of free art.

Honestly I don't really see people like the MPAA as that greedy, at least not compared to the people who download movies and games. I mean, what's greedier than thinking that you have an inalienable entitlement to any amount of luxury items that you want at no charge?

And, as for the "copying is not theft" video and argument...pretty stupid. I mean, really stupid. Basically completely missing the point of everything. Piracy isn't a form of larceny, so saying its not theft is like saying its not murder. Technically true but pointlessly oblivious. If you snuck onto a train without buying a ticket that would not be theft either, but that is still breaking a law. And you can't do it for the obvious reason that if that was possible then running a train would be an impossible business to sustain and would shut down.
If you really, really believe that IP law is a shambles (which, strangely, nobody seemed to say until the internet made large scale piracy easily accessible) then say that. But saying "Copying is not Theft" just makes you look like you have no understanding of the actual issue.

When the police want to catch a shoplifter in a mall, they don't arrest everyone in sight. When the MPAA or RIAA want to catch a "criminal" they blanket thousands with threats of lawsuits. These same two cartels have made millions in "donations" to politicians. Their lobby groups have made sure their interests are well looked after.

They, and many other companies like them, now own the US government.

 

[Treblaine]

Hack: "you can take these downloaded movies but you if you do... I'll fire this woman"

Person: "what because your profits are falling every year?"

Hack: "oh no, they are in fact rising year on year! No I'll just use piracy as an excuse to the unions so I can cut loose some dead weight and export more movie work to CGI farms in Taiwan"

Person: "so... you're basically holding your union employees hostage"

Hack: "Hey, at least I'm not a pirate"

Because if they weren't making profits, you'd stop pirating their movies.

Hmm, I suppose I don't pirate games because I've seen too many good studios go under. Not so with Hollywood.

But really I'm only going to START PIRATING Hollywood movies when Hollywood actually makes some movies worth even pirating!

I mean Inception was my favourite film of ALL of last year and I still don't consider even that worth owning, either legally or illegally.

I have pirated a lot of stuff, mostly obscure TV shows from around the world that are just not reasonably available in my country. Also certain... animated features... that are not on sale in the UK.

If there was something like Steam for movies and TV shows. I'd spend a metric fuckton of money on that, I know I have on Steam for game... oh... so much money. I haven't even INSTALLED most of the games I've bought, I just compulsively buy them!

I suppose my main points with that are:
(1) Income and profits ARE rising
(2) they are looking for an excuse to fire Americans and export work overseas in the worst possible way, as CGI farms replacing practical local special effects.

 

[Treblaine]

Hmm I wonder why anyone would ever resort to Piracy:

http://cinemassacre.com/2011/04/26/chronologically-confused-about-tmnt-dvds/

See simple shit like this, the people who ACTUALLY OWN THE LICENCE to the series can't get the order right or put all the seasons in proper order or volumes. And then they are blatantly extortionate releasing only a handful of episodes per disc.

The pirated version is not just free, it's inherently better in every way:
-episodes in order, arranged by a devoted fan
-in PC file format far easier to move around from device to device.
-better subtitle and dub support
-quicker "service" more widely available

All these studios have to do is stick some ads in these torrents and they'd make some serious green.

 

[Ajna]

Ah I love me a good PSA put out by Uncle Sam. Always terribly done with no thought put into it other than "how shocking can we make this without it being porn?"

Idea: Anti-Piracy PSA that consists only of high-quality porn, and then ends on the note of "if you stop pirating, we'll make more of this".

Might not stop piracy in it's tracks, but it'll work better than whatever the fuck you want to call this.

 

[ArmorArmadillo]

How is that inappropriate? Government agencies protect property rights. Police bust shoplifters, courts enforce copyright claims, the only real difference is that in this case the internet characterizes one as the big bad evil monster thats standing in the way of free art.

Honestly I don't really see people like the MPAA as that greedy, at least not compared to the people who download movies and games. I mean, what's greedier than thinking that you have an inalienable entitlement to any amount of luxury items that you want at no charge?

And, as for the "copying is not theft" video and argument...pretty stupid. I mean, really stupid. Basically completely missing the point of everything. Piracy isn't a form of larceny, so saying its not theft is like saying its not murder. Technically true but pointlessly oblivious. If you snuck onto a train without buying a ticket that would not be theft either, but that is still breaking a law. And you can't do it for the obvious reason that if that was possible then running a train would be an impossible business to sustain and would shut down.
If you really, really believe that IP law is a shambles (which, strangely, nobody seemed to say until the internet made large scale piracy easily accessible) then say that. But saying "Copying is not Theft" just makes you look like you have no understanding of the actual issue.

When the police want to catch a shoplifter in a mall, they don't arrest everyone in sight. When the MPAA or RIAA want to catch a "criminal" they blanket thousands with threats of lawsuits. These same two cartels have made millions in "donations" to politicians. Their lobby groups have made sure their interests are well looked after.

They, and many other companies like them, now own the US government.

Donations to politicians? Well DUH! Democracy is a political system based on influence. People with lots of influence, such as people with money, have always had a lot of power for the entire history of democracy. And shadowy phrases like "they own the government" make decent punk music lyrics but they don't really have much actual weight.

Better question, why shouldn't the politicians side with them? They may be big bad corporations but the software pirates have nothing in their favor. It'd be one thing if the law was on their side, but it's not. And thousands of people get sued because thousands steal stuff knowing full well that it's illegal.

And it's not like the MPAA and RIAA are the only people who are against piracy. Independent video or software manufacturers are the hardest hit by piracy.

 

[Treblaine]

Hey, we're the US of A our laws are world wide. Why? Because we say so *****.

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Keep on seeding

wtf twenty four states are not feelin the love there buddy.

Yeah, and there are only 11 stripes on that flag too. Two of the founding colonies are going to shit bricks.

You know If I didn't know any better I'd say that picture was scrawled by someone who knows next to nothing about America and hasn't heard of Godwin's Law either.

 

[008Zulu_v1legacy]

Donations to politicians? Well DUH! Democracy is a political system based on influence. People with lots of influence, such as people with money, have always had a lot of power for the entire history of democracy. And shadowy phrases like "they own the government" make decent punk music lyrics but they don't really have much actual weight.

Better question, why shouldn't the politicians side with them? They may be big bad corporations but the software pirates have nothing in their favor. It'd be one thing if the law was on their side, but it's not. And thousands of people get sued because thousands steal stuff knowing full well that it's illegal.

And it's not like the MPAA and RIAA are the only people who are against piracy. Independent video or software manufacturers are the hardest hit by piracy.

The problem is, a lot of these lawsuit victims haven't downloaded anything illegal and some don't even own computers.

Now while supporting anti-piracy seems like the good thing to do, you have to look closer at all the rules and regulations the RIAA and MPAA are having moved through the system and being made in to laws. There is no debate over invasion of privacy, there are no Fair Use discussions. Politicians shouldn't side with them while our rights are being obliterated all in the name of increasing their coffers.

 

[Weaver]

Yep, Piracy is just murdering the film industry:
http://www.usatoday.com/life/movies/news/2009-12-09-hollywood_N.htm

I'm fed up with govermnents pushing ridiculous corpratism onto the populous.
I get that you're all buddy buddy up at the top with your billions of dollars and having us petty, common folk leech a twinge of joy out of life would be downright unacceptable. But you're making record profits. How much more do you want from us?

 

[standokan]

I'd take them all, fuck real life hypothysises, they don't exist.

 

[Aeshi]

If I was America I'd just sell these sites, get rid of the "Anti-Piracy PSA" budget and use the money to send a Cruise Missile to every Torrent Site/Server/Pirate there is.

 

[Auxiliary]

I would take every interesting DVD on the table home.

 

[thatcanadianguy]

LOL @ "bad PR" sentance. its homeland security folks, they dont NEED good PR =D

 

[The Lunatic]

Big business really loses almost nothing from pirates, but, in time of economic downturn, it's a nice scapegoat.

The small companies are the ones who are really in trouble from it, and frankly nobody has any right to be pirating from those guys.

 

[puffy786]

If you don't spend your money on buying the movies, your money will still go to someone else who needs the money as much. Also, the workers are most likely not even gonna see any money. I think that unless you are purposefully pirating in order to work less and contribute less to society, pirating digital data is not harming to society. (BTY Yes I do support certain parts of Communisim, but only a few of the meanings and it's not like i support facists governments live Soviet Russia or something.)
With games, i support anti-piracy of products by small creative and innovative based studios that makes an honest amount of small money, but with let's say a large sell out making a generic brown FPS that doubles its sells profit to game's budget within the weak it comes out, I couldn't give a less of a dam if I pirated it, I would just give my gaming money to the small studios.